I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing music
using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a MacBook.
However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using that as
my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I should
invest in a MacBook Pro or whether I can get away with the lower spec
MacBook.
So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP installed on
a Mac use much system resources?

On Jan 31, 2008 12:29 PM, Tom Chubb <tomchubb@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP installed on
> a Mac use much system resources?

Nope. I used to run it on an old G4 as a desktop just fine.

Tom Chubb schreef:
> I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing music
> using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a MacBook.
> However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using that as
> my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I should
> invest in a MacBook Pro or whether I can get away with the lower spec
> MacBook.
> So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP installed on
> a Mac use much system resources?

the biggest problem, with Leopard at least, is getting a build of php5 with all
the bells and whistles on it that you need. mostly likely the nice chap and entrophy.ch
has rolled a DMG package with all the trimming by now.

I have no idea how much faster an MBP is compared to an MB but I can tell you it goes
like a bat out of hell - seriously the faster piece of kit I've ever used by far
(it's running WinXP in a Parallels VM as fast as my previous laptop did natively ... and
that was a CoreDuo2 2.0 with 2Gigs ... granted the MBP has a few mroe cpu cycles and
double the RAM but still!)

mostly though you'll probably kick yourself for settling for the less sexy option. ;-)
that said I can't imagine that an MB won't cut it.

>

On Thu, January 31, 2008 11:29 am, Tom Chubb wrote:
> I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing
> music
> using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a
> MacBook.
> However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using
> that as
> my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I
> should
> invest in a MacBook Pro or whether I can get away with the lower spec
> MacBook.
> So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP
> installed on
> a Mac use much system resources?

They will use virtually NO system resources until you start developing
something that, errr, uses a lot of resources... :-)

If you load up a million-row database and start writing monster select
queries in PHP against it, you'll probably strain any laptop.

If you just install them and develop some simple pages with modest
queries, I don't think you can BUY a new laptop that won't handle
that.

If you're doing music, get a bigger hard drive. You'll need it.

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On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Tom Chubb wrote:

> I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing
> music
> using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a
> MacBook.
> However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using
> that as
> my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I
> should
> invest in a MacBook Pro or whether I can get away with the lower spec
> MacBook.
> So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP
> installed on
> a Mac use much system resources?

Hi Tom,

If you turn on your personal websharing on the Mac, you are running
Apache, I believe PHP is preinstalled even on desktop Mac's, and MySQL
is a simple download... I don't think running all of those for
development would hurt any much more then running them on an actual
server...

That being said, I've always had a server at my disposal so I've never
needed to try and run it locally. But in theroy I don't think it would
eat up any more resources on the local computer rather then on a
server. Especially since OS X Server, is pretty much OS X Client with
a few more GUI's



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On 31/01/2008, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, January 31, 2008 11:29 am, Tom Chubb wrote:
> > I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing
> > music
> > using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a
> > MacBook.
> > However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using
> > that as
> > my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I
> > should
> > invest in a MacBook Pro or whether I can get away with the lower spec
> > MacBook.
> > So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP
> > installed on
> > a Mac use much system resources?
>
> They will use virtually NO system resources until you start developing
> something that, errr, uses a lot of resources... :-)
>
> If you load up a million-row database and start writing monster select
> queries in PHP against it, you'll probably strain any laptop.
>
> If you just install them and develop some simple pages with modest
> queries, I don't think you can BUY a new laptop that won't handle
> that.
>
> If you're doing music, get a bigger hard drive. You'll need it.
>
> --
> Some people have a "gift" link here.
> Know what I want?
> I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist.
> http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch
> Yeah, I get a buck. So?
>
>
Thanks for all your responses.
Rich, I guess you're right! Anyway PHP is only a hobby for personal sites,
so I shouldn't really worry too much but wanted to get a general feel from
people.
The only big advantage for the MBP is that it has Firewire 800 which would
be better for that big hard-drive that I'll need

Tom Chubb wrote:
> Thanks for all your responses.
> Rich, I guess you're right! Anyway PHP is only a hobby for personal sites,
> so I shouldn't really worry too much but wanted to get a general feel from
> people.
> The only big advantage for the MBP is that it has Firewire 800 which would
> be better for that big hard-drive that I'll need

I don't use a mac myself but a colleague does. He seems to have apache
and PHP installed on the machine but he generally uses the Xampp
package. I don't know if this is the official home page or but but start
here: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html


HTH

Col

On 31/01/2008, Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
>
> Tom Chubb wrote:
> > Thanks for all your responses.
> > Rich, I guess you're right! Anyway PHP is only a hobby for personal
> sites,
> > so I shouldn't really worry too much but wanted to get a general feel
> from
> > people.
> > The only big advantage for the MBP is that it has Firewire 800 which
> would
> > be better for that big hard-drive that I'll need
>
> I don't use a mac myself but a colleague does. He seems to have apache
> and PHP installed on the machine but he generally uses the Xampp
> package. I don't know if this is the official home page or but but start
> here: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html
>
>
> HTH
>
> Col
>
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Thanks Colin,
That's what I use on PC so it will probably do me fine on Mac too.

> > I don't use a mac myself but a colleague does. He seems to have apache
> > and PHP installed on the machine but he generally uses the Xampp
> > package. I don't know if this is the official home page or but but start
> > here: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html

> Thanks Colin,
> That's what I use on PC so it will probably do me fine on Mac too.

I've been using XAMPP on Windows for a few years, so when I bought a
MBP in December I was happy to find that they have a version for OS X
as well.

The one thing I didn't like about it is that on OS X you have to type
in your password every time you want to start or stop anything. So I
wrote some simple applescripts that I use instead of the included
control panel that handle the authentication for me. If anyone is
interested, just contact me off-list and I'll gladly share these
simple scripts.

Brady