Hi to all, a simple question:

How can i transfer files from my Virtual Server 2005 R2 Host Machine to my
virtual machines? The proble is that the host and the Virtual machines have
different IP Address on different subnets.
What can i do?
Thanks in advance to all

Bye
Ale

Why did you put them in different subnets if you want them to
communicate? Just as with physical machines or networks, you need a router
if the machines are in different IP subnets. What network are vms attached
to?

Virtual machines and virtual networks work just like physical ones. The
basic rules of IP networking don't change.

"Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi to all, a simple question:
>
> How can i transfer files from my Virtual Server 2005 R2 Host Machine to my
> virtual machines? The proble is that the host and the Virtual machines
> have
> different IP Address on different subnets.
> What can i do?
> Thanks in advance to all
>
> Bye
> Ale

Hi Bill,

that's the situation:

1 Notebook (Virtual Server) with 2 VM installed. Notebook's IP is
192.168.0.2, VM IPs are 10.0.0.2 and 10.0.0.3. I want to mantain different
subnets; one subnet for my NB to remain connected to my LAN office network;
One different network for my Virtual machines (those VM are a DC and a
future Exchange server).
Is it a correct conig or do you think there's something wrong?
Thanks a lot

"Bill Grant" wrote:

> Why did you put them in different subnets if you want them to
> communicate? Just as with physical machines or networks, you need a router
> if the machines are in different IP subnets. What network are vms attached
> to?
>
> Virtual machines and virtual networks work just like physical ones. The
> basic rules of IP networking don't change.
>
> "Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:478A5BB0-8371-4377-8C3B-6203072C68E7@microsoft.com...
> > Hi to all, a simple question:
> >
> > How can i transfer files from my Virtual Server 2005 R2 Host Machine to my
> > virtual machines? The proble is that the host and the Virtual machines
> > have
> > different IP Address on different subnets.
> > What can i do?
> > Thanks in advance to all
> >
> > Bye
> > Ale
>
>

Add a Microsoft Loopback adapter to the host machine, give it an IP address
in the same subnet as the guest machines. Then tie the guest machines'
adapter to the loopback adapter.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newsA45B73A-CA1E-47EE-BE24-513979C28750@microsoft.com...
> Hi Bill,
>
> that's the situation:
>
> 1 Notebook (Virtual Server) with 2 VM installed. Notebook's IP is
> 192.168.0.2, VM IPs are 10.0.0.2 and 10.0.0.3. I want to mantain different
> subnets; one subnet for my NB to remain connected to my LAN office
> network;
> One different network for my Virtual machines (those VM are a DC and a
> future Exchange server).
> Is it a correct conig or do you think there's something wrong?
> Thanks a lot
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
>> Why did you put them in different subnets if you want them to
>> communicate? Just as with physical machines or networks, you need a
>> router
>> if the machines are in different IP subnets. What network are vms
>> attached
>> to?
>>
>> Virtual machines and virtual networks work just like physical ones.
>> The
>> basic rules of IP networking don't change.
>>
>> "Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:478A5BB0-8371-4377-8C3B-6203072C68E7@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi to all, a simple question:
>> >
>> > How can i transfer files from my Virtual Server 2005 R2 Host Machine to
>> > my
>> > virtual machines? The proble is that the host and the Virtual machines
>> > have
>> > different IP Address on different subnets.
>> > What can i do?
>> > Thanks in advance to all
>> >
>> > Bye
>> > Ale
>>
>>

Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local loopback
adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the same
subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all

Ale

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Add a Microsoft Loopback adapter to the host machine, give it an IP address
> in the same subnet as the guest machines. Then tie the guest machines'
> adapter to the loopback adapter.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsA45B73A-CA1E-47EE-BE24-513979C28750@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > that's the situation:
> >
> > 1 Notebook (Virtual Server) with 2 VM installed. Notebook's IP is
> > 192.168.0.2, VM IPs are 10.0.0.2 and 10.0.0.3. I want to mantain different
> > subnets; one subnet for my NB to remain connected to my LAN office
> > network;
> > One different network for my Virtual machines (those VM are a DC and a
> > future Exchange server).
> > Is it a correct conig or do you think there's something wrong?
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > "Bill Grant" wrote:
> >
> >> Why did you put them in different subnets if you want them to
> >> communicate? Just as with physical machines or networks, you need a
> >> router
> >> if the machines are in different IP subnets. What network are vms
> >> attached
> >> to?
> >>
> >> Virtual machines and virtual networks work just like physical ones.
> >> The
> >> basic rules of IP networking don't change.
> >>
> >> "Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:478A5BB0-8371-4377-8C3B-6203072C68E7@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi to all, a simple question:
> >> >
> >> > How can i transfer files from my Virtual Server 2005 R2 Host Machine to
> >> > my
> >> > virtual machines? The proble is that the host and the Virtual machines
> >> > have
> >> > different IP Address on different subnets.
> >> > What can i do?
> >> > Thanks in advance to all
> >> >
> >> > Bye
> >> > Ale
> >>
> >>
>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:01 -0800, Ale
<Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
>question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local loopback
>adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the same
>subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all
>

No...


Bo Berglund

Bo, how can i do it?

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:01 -0800, Ale
> <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
> >question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local loopback
> >adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the same
> >subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all
> >
>
> No...
>
>
> Bo Berglund
>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:02:02 -0800, Ale wrote:

> Bo, how can i do it?

Have two adapters in your virtual machines. One which is bound to the
host's loopback adapter, which as Charlie explained you can use to
communicate with the host when needed, the other bound to the host's NIC
using the IP addressing that allows them to communicate across the network.

>
> "Bo Berglund" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:01 -0800, Ale
>> <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
>>>question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local loopback
>>>adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the same
>>>subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all
>>>
>>
>> No...
>>
>>
>> Bo Berglund
>>


--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Downtime: Coffee breaks, lunch, or Friday mentality in the office.

As Bo said, no, you can't. The reason is fairly obvious if you think about
it - the loopback adapter is just that, a loopback. It ONLY connects to
itself, there's no physical connection to a network. It's fine for
connecting the two virtual machines, but that's as far as it can go.

You need to connect through a real network adapter to connect to another
machine. As Paul suggests, use the existing physical adapter to do the
connection. Or even add another physical adapter if you need to keep the VMs
off of the subnet used by the current NIC in the host.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Bo, how can i do it?
>
> "Bo Berglund" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:01 -0800, Ale
>> <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
>> >question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local
>> >loopback
>> >adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the
>> >same
>> >subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all
>> >
>>
>> No...
>>
>>
>> Bo Berglund
>>

This thread has got a fair way away from the original post, so I would
like to have another shot at it.

The basic problem here seems to be networking on the run. Fixing
problems as they arise isn't the way to get a sensible layout, no matter how
simple or how complex the network.

Running virtual networks on different hosts and have these vms talk to
each other is fairly complex. As Charlie pointed out you can't do this
without routing through the physical network connecting the hosts.

What exactly are you trying to do here? Are you trying to emulate a site
to site link, or do you simply not have enough memory to host all servers on
one machine? You need to look at the topology and decide where to put the
routers. If the machines are in a loopback network you need to route through
the hosts, but you could put the vms in an internal virtual network and run
vms as routers. It really depends on what your ultimate aim is.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
news:EEBE8831-9156-4EDC-A09D-1E7951F86306@microsoft.com...
> As Bo said, no, you can't. The reason is fairly obvious if you think about
> it - the loopback adapter is just that, a loopback. It ONLY connects to
> itself, there's no physical connection to a network. It's fine for
> connecting the two virtual machines, but that's as far as it can go.
>
> You need to connect through a real network adapter to connect to another
> machine. As Paul suggests, use the existing physical adapter to do the
> connection. Or even add another physical adapter if you need to keep the
> VMs off of the subnet used by the current NIC in the host.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Ale" <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C5F70A7C-ECC1-4FF6-9BD2-EBFB30271F01@microsoft.com...
>> Bo, how can i do it?
>>
>> "Bo Berglund" wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:01 -0800, Ale
>>> <Ale@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hi Charlie! Thanks for your reply! Now everything functions. The last
>>> >question is: if i leave my 2 virtual machines connected to the local
>>> >loopback
>>> >adapter, is it possible for them to comunicate with another vm (on the
>>> >same
>>> >subnet) on another phisical computer? Thanks a lot for all
>>> >
>>>
>>> No...
>>>
>>>
>>> Bo Berglund
>>>
>