How do I uninstall SQL Server 2005 (x64) Developer Ed (SP2) from Vista
Enterprise ed (x64) when the following attempts fail
1.) Uninstall using Add/Remove programs failed
2.) Manual uninstall attempts using instruction from
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909967 failed
3.) MSIZAP failed.

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1.) Detail on add/remove programs - I selected a SQL Server 2005 item and
clicked uninstall. I expected a dialog to open where I could select
uninistall all. Since that did not happen I proceeded to uninstall each item
one at a time. I was able to uninstall most of SQL Server 2005 (x64) but
"Uninstall or change a program" Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (64-bit) still was
shown. When I attempt to uninstall I am given the following message:

"An error occurred while trying to uninstall Microsoft SQL Server 2005
(64-bit). It may have already been uninstalled. Would you like to remove
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (x64-bit) from the Programs and Features? Yes/No"

In Services I could still see "SQL Server Reporting Services" (MSSQLSERVER)
and I could stop and start it.

I reinstalled the whole thing and tried again without success so I abandoned
the standard uninstall and moved to the manual uninstall.

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2.) Detail on manual uninstall attepts - I reinstalled everyting incl (SP2)
and followed these instructions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909967 item
by item to the letter.
When I tried to run the "ARPWrapper.exe" with the command: "ARPWrapper.exe
/Remove" The uninstall form opened and showed the following:

[x] Remove SQL Server 2005 instance components
Select an instance
(.)"MSSQLSERVER: Database Engine, Reporting Services"

I select the default instance and clicked "Next>" and see the following:

The following components will be uninstalled from your machine. To proceed,
click finish
.. Database Engine: MSSQLSERVER
.. Reporting Services: MSSQLSERVER

I click Finish and nothing happens! Absolutely Nothing!

So I move down to the section titled: "If you experience problems"

This section required registry editing.
I navigated to the section instructed and click on the GUIDS and look for
the following display names;
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Reporting Services
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Notification Services
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Integration Services
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Tools
.. Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Books Online

There were these items remaining ~ shown with the essential information

1.)
Display Name: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Reporting Services (64-bit)
GUID: {BEE3EC3D-0C91-4A3E-A42C-7634D32968F4}
Uninstall string: MsiExec.exe /I{BEE3EC3D-0C91-4A3E-A42C-7634D32968F4}

2.)
Display Name: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (64-bit)
GUID: {F14F2E25-99AF-42A9-977C-F6D0352DC59F}
Uninstall string MsiExec.exe /I{F14F2E25-99AF-42A9-977C-F6D0352DC59F}

3.)
Display Name: GDR 3054 for SQL Server Reporting Services 2005 (64-bit) ENU
(KB934458)
GUID: none
Uninstall string: none

4.)
Display Name: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (64-bit)
GUID: none
Uninstall string: none

Attempts to uninstall 1 and 2 above result in errors like:

0:Watson 1:1317 2:StreamSupport\Files 3:sqlCreateDirectory
4:5 5:e:\sql9__sp2_t\sql\setup\darwin\sqlcastub\catarg et.cpp
6:36 7:sqlcastub.dll 8:sqlrun.msi

And:

An error occurred while attempting to create the directory:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server \90\SetupBootstrap\bin\

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3.) Detail of attempt using MSIZAP for Vista - I reinstalled SQL Server 2005
(x64) SP2 to get a fresh start. Then I ran MSIINV.exe and redirecting the
output to a text file. I edited the resuts to show only the information I
was interested in. Here are the results.

Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English)
{18C5A65B-0A39-40B5-B958-63055AFAB65C}
MsiExec.exe /X{18C5A65B-0A39-40B5-B958-63055AFAB65C}

Microsoft SQL Server Native Client
{751EE164-9F12-4E57-ADB0-02D8F34A10AD}
MsiExec.exe /I{751EE164-9F12-4E57-ADB0-02D8F34A10AD}

Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer
{AA0AA91C-2C23-452C-B62F-70054E856AB8}
MsiExec.exe /I{AA0AA91C-2C23-452C-B62F-70054E856AB8}

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Reporting Services (64-bit)
{BEE3EC3D-0C91-4A3E-A42C-7634D32968F4}
MsiExec.exe /I{BEE3EC3D-0C91-4A3E-A42C-7634D32968F4}

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Backward compatibility
{C92556F2-4950-48CF-ABA3-F0026B05BCE8}
MsiExec.exe /I{C92556F2-4950-48CF-ABA3-F0026B05BCE8}

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 (64-bit)
{F14F2E25-99AF-42A9-977C-F6D0352DC59F}
MsiExec.exe /I{F14F2E25-99AF-42A9-977C-F6D0352DC59F}

==============================================
I stopped short here because similar attepts at using MSIZAP failed on a
Windows Server 2003 server.

On that machine I was trying to uninstall Microsoft##SSEE after a failed
uninstall of WSS 2007. The uninstall did not remove SSEE or display it in
Add/Remove so that I could choose to remove it. Various attempts to remove
using various instructions resulted in similar failures. After using MSIZAP
on this server machine I believed I was successful becasue all reverences in
the registry were removed. Yet - I was unable to take ownership over the
files and unable to remove them from the server. And strangely still Windows
Server 2005 on that same machine still saw SSEE.

I had to reinstall the O/S on the Windows Server 2003 machine.
==============================================

SOooooo

How do I uninstall SQL Server 2005 Developer Ed (x64) from Vista Enterprise
Ed (x64)???

Hello dbuchanan,

I would like to suggest you to do the following to remove the reporting
services.

1). Stop the Reporting Services Windows Service.

2) Remove Report Server dlls

a. Default locations:
i. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Reporting Services
ii. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Report Designer
iii. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Reporting Services
b. Remove tools items (C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn)
i. ReportingServices.mof
ii. Rs.exe
iii. RSConfig.exe
iv. RSActivate.exe
v. RSKeyMgmt.exe
vi. ReportingServicesWmi.dll
vii. Resource folders
1. All Languages (DE, ES, etc)
2. 1033
5) Remove IIS Vroots
a. Default names are Reports and ReportServer
6) Remove Registry Entries
a. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Reporting
Services
b. Designer keys

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{11b8c903-
8ffd-4df
c-87ce-f6a82d77af6b}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{4a0c6509-
bf90-43d
a-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Editors\{CC84AFBD-D
A02-46F4
-8623-9F07E5569EDB}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\KeyBindingTables\{C
B3675B8-
701E-4f56-9167-2714E167FF3F}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates
\Templat
eDirs\{4a0c6509-bf90-43da-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates
\Templat
eDirs\{69B942A4-7F5A-4fb3-8212-21CE123B1A37}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Projects\{F14B399A-
7131-4c8
7-9E4B-1186C45EF12D}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\ToolWindows\{3FD5E0
CC-709A-
4f8c-94C3-7F0F8DFF5BB2}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\InstalledProducts\R
eport
Desgner]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{DF0CE101-A80
D-426D-9
606-BEAA92726B06}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{FB391598-D46
1-4cf4-B
278-E30199FF259C}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{F45BA896-3A9
3-4d52-B
C09-CD17C4A76E53}]

7) Remove Databases
a. Default names are ReportServer and ReportServerTempDB
b. Remove RSExec role from master, msdb

After that, please let me know whether you could uninstall other components.

Sincerely,

Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support

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Hello Wei Lu [MSFT],

I proceeded with your instruction, but there are a number of things that I
could not do exactly and look for your assistance.

This is my step by step notes and history following your instruction:

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First a few notes:

There are no such locations as:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Reporting Services
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Report Designer
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Reporting Services

Remember that I said SQL Server 2005 not SQL Server 2000:
2005 is 90
2000 is 80

Remember I said x64 edition therefore I have two Program Files paths:
C:\Program Files
And:
C:\Program Files (x86)

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Step 2a). "Remove Report Server dlls"
I can find no dlls you describe. Here is what I do find;

---------------------
I do not have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Reporting Services

But I do have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\Data

No dlls to delete (this is where the databases are)
I did not delete anything.

---------------------
I don't have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Report Designer

But I do have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\90\Tools

Yes it does not go further
There were not dlls to delete

---------------------
I don't have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Reporting Services

But I have this path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SQL Server\90\Tools\Reporting Services

no dlls to delete.

Summary for Step 2a ~ no dlls deleted.
================================================== ================
Step 2b). "Remove tools items (C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\80\Tools\Binn)"
I do not find the files you describe. Here is what I do find:

---------------------
I don't have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Binn

But I have this path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\90\Tools\Binn

And here are the files and folders located there
batchparser90.dll
bcp.exe
OSQL.EXE
Resources
SEMMAP90.DLL
SQLCMD.EXE
SQLdiag.exe
SqlLogShip.exe
SqlLogShip.exe.config
SqlManager.dll
sqlresld90.dll
SqlResourceLoader.dll
SQLSCM90.DLL
SQLSVC90.DLL
xmlrw.dll

I removed all files folders under this path.

================================================== ================
Step 5) (?) Remove IIS Vroots

I don't know what you mean by Vroots, but here is what I found in IIS:
Under "Application Pools" I found...

---------------------
Name: ReportServer
Status: started <<< I don't understand because the service: SQL Server
Reporting Services is not started.
..NET Framework Version: v2.0
Managed Pipeline mode: Classic
Identity: NetworkSevice
Applications: 2

I stopped the "Report Server" under "Application pools" and removed it.

---------------------
Also I found:
In "Default Web Site" under "Web Sites" in IIS:
Reports
ReportServer

I removed these.

================================================== ================
Step 6a) Remove registry Entries
(First I back up the registry)

---------------------
I do not find this path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Reporting
Services

But I do have this path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\90

Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\90 I have
the following items:
Bootstrap
Cost
Machines
ProductID
Replication
Tools
Uninstall Info

As you can see nothing with "Reporting Services".

---------------------
However here is what I think you want me to find:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\Reporting
Services

But it will not delete. I get this message:
---------------------
Error Deleting Key

Cannot delete Reporting Services: Error while deleting key.

[OK]
---------------------

Nothing could be or was deleted.

================================================== ================
Step 6b) Designer keys

I do not have these keys:
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{11b8c903-8ffd-4dfc-87ce-f6a82d77af6b}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{4a0c6509-bf90-43da-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Editors\{CC84AFBD-DA02-46F4-8623-9F07E5569EDB}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\KeyBindingTables\{CB3675B8-701E-4f56-9167-2714E167FF3F}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates\TemplateDirs\{4a0c6509-bf90-43da-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates\TemplateDirs\{69B942A4-7F5A-4fb3-8212-21CE123B1A37}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Projects\{F14B399A-7131-4c87-9E4B-1186C45EF12D}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\ToolWindows\{3FD5E0CC-709A-4f8c-94C3-7F0F8DFF5BB2}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\InstalledProducts\Report
Desgner]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{DF0CE101-A80D-426D-9606-BEAA92726B06}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{FB391598-D461-4cf4-B278-E30199FF259C}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{F45BA896-3A93-4d52-BC09-CD17C4A76E53}]

But I do have these keys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{600dd186-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{600dd187-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{600dd188-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{600dd189-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{656d875f-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{656d8760-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{656d8763-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\CLSID\{656d8766-2429-11d7-8bf6-00b0d03daa06}

And I also have this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \8.0\VC\VC_OBJECTS_PLATFORM_INFO

Should I try to delete these?

================================================== ================
Step 7a) Remove Databases - Default names are ReportServer and
ReportServerTempDB

I deleted the following
ReportServer.mdf
ReportServer_log.ldf
ReportServerTempDB.mdf
ReportServerTempDB_log.ldf

================================================== ================
Step 7b) Remove RSExec role from master, msdb

How do I do this? I cannot open SQL Server Management Studio

================================================== ================
What should I do next? How should I resolve the issues I encoutered above?

How do I continue so that I can completely remove SQL Server 2005 (x64)
Developer edition from this Vista machine?

Dbuchanan

"Wei Lu [MSFT]" <weilu@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:g2OND9UuHHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
> Hello dbuchanan,
>
> I would like to suggest you to do the following to remove the reporting
> services.
>
> 1). Stop the Reporting Services Windows Service.
>
> 2) Remove Report Server dlls
>
> a. Default locations:
> i. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Reporting Services
> ii. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Report Designer
> iii. C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Tools\Reporting Services
> b. Remove tools items (C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\80\Tools\Binn)
> i. ReportingServices.mof
> ii. Rs.exe
> iii. RSConfig.exe
> iv. RSActivate.exe
> v. RSKeyMgmt.exe
> vi. ReportingServicesWmi.dll
> vii. Resource folders
> 1. All Languages (DE, ES, etc)
> 2. 1033
> 5) Remove IIS Vroots
> a. Default names are Reports and ReportServer
> 6) Remove Registry Entries
> a. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\80\Reporting
> Services
> b. Designer keys
>
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{11b8c903-
> 8ffd-4df
> c-87ce-f6a82d77af6b}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Packages\{4a0c6509-
> bf90-43d
> a-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Editors\{CC84AFBD-D
> A02-46F4
> -8623-9F07E5569EDB}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\KeyBindingTables\{C
> B3675B8-
> 701E-4f56-9167-2714E167FF3F}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates
> \Templat
> eDirs\{4a0c6509-bf90-43da-abee-0aba3a8527f1}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\NewProjectTemplates
> \Templat
> eDirs\{69B942A4-7F5A-4fb3-8212-21CE123B1A37}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\Projects\{F14B399A-
> 7131-4c8
> 7-9E4B-1186C45EF12D}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\ToolWindows\{3FD5E0
> CC-709A-
> 4f8c-94C3-7F0F8DFF5BB2}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\InstalledProducts\R
> eport
> Desgner]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{DF0CE101-A80
> D-426D-9
> 606-BEAA92726B06}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{FB391598-D46
> 1-4cf4-B
> 278-E30199FF259C}]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio \7.1\CLSID\{F45BA896-3A9
> 3-4d52-B
> C09-CD17C4A76E53}]
>
> 7) Remove Databases
> a. Default names are ReportServer and ReportServerTempDB
> b. Remove RSExec role from master, msdb
>
> After that, please let me know whether you could uninstall other
> components.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wei Lu
> Microsoft Online Community Support
>
> ==================================================
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> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> rights.
>
>

Hello,

Under C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\ and C:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft SQL Server\

Try to delete all the related files.

And please try to use the regedit under c:\windows\regedit.exe to delete
the registry key.

Sincerely,

Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support

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Hi ,

How is everything going? Please feel free to let me know if you need any
assistance.

Sincerely,

Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support

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Hi. Wei Lu,

There were hundreds and hundreds of references in the registry for SQL
Server. I began removing them. I had to change permissions to allow myself
to delete items in the registry. I worked at it for about four hours over
two days and then gave up after I encoutered the following circumstances
1.) I had run into up to ten items that would NOT allow removal
2.) I ran into many items where there was reasonable doubt whether they
exclusively belonged to SQL Server and I could safely delete them.
3.) Then I cam accross about ten pages of solid SQL Server references that
in themselves would have taken me hours and hours of the tedious delete and
confirm staps. So I gave up in discust and reinstalled the operating system.

The whole miserable mess cost me about two weeks of time lost with that
machine.

There is no reason that Microsoft can't build an uninstall tool to
successfully remove SQL Server for an OS!!!

In spite of your I felt very much on my own guessing my way through all
this. I am equally sure that you share my same frustration because of a lack
of resources available to you on such topics.

Thank you for your assistance. We can both hope for better tools.

dbuchanan

"Wei Lu [MSFT]" <weilu@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi ,
>
> How is everything going? Please feel free to let me know if you need any
> assistance.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Wei Lu
> Microsoft Online Community Support
>
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> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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