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Vieux 22/04/2008, 08h43   #1
David
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Hi there,

I posted this on the Server.general newsgroups but not heard anything back.
Probably isn't the right newsgroup really. Thought i would try here to see
if anyone can ;

We have an issue whereby we want external clients to register there VPN IP
addresses in DNS. The VPN connections are handled by a RAS server which gets
the IP addresses from DHCP. There are two DHCP Servers;

DC01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller

Server01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller

Server02 RAS

Both the servers are set to update A and PTR records for clients. In DNS
however this doesn't seem to be the case. I then added DC01 to the
DNSUpdateProxy and when i did this i saw my test laptop register its ip in
dns. I then disconnected and reconnected and got a different IP address. the
ip address i got then was one which was already associated with an A record
for another computer but the lease for the IP had expired hence why it was
assigned to me. With the DHCP servers there are no overlaps in the IP
address scopes. Do you think the A record for the other computer is stopping
my system from registering a DNS record?

Please note that there is no scavenging turned on at the server or the zone
levels.

David.


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Vieux 22/04/2008, 14h17   #2
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Read inline please.

In news:OJCJMyEpIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
David <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I posted this on the Server.general newsgroups but not heard anything
> back. Probably isn't the right newsgroup really. Thought i would try
> here to see if anyone can ;
>
> We have an issue whereby we want external clients to register there
> VPN IP addresses in DNS. The VPN connections are handled by a RAS
> server which gets the IP addresses from DHCP. There are two DHCP
> Servers;
>
> DC01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>
> Server01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>
> Server02 RAS
>
> Both the servers are set to update A and PTR records for clients. In
> DNS however this doesn't seem to be the case. I then added DC01 to the
> DNSUpdateProxy and when i did this i saw my test laptop register its
> ip in dns. I then disconnected and reconnected and got a different IP
> address. the ip address i got then was one which was already
> associated with an A record for another computer but the lease for
> the IP had expired hence why it was assigned to me. With the DHCP
> servers there are no overlaps in the IP address scopes. Do you think
> the A record for the other computer is stopping my system from
> registering a DNS record?
>
> Please note that there is no scavenging turned on at the server or
> the zone levels.
>
> David.



In my opinion, there is really no need for scavenging if the clients and the
DHCP servers are properly configured.

Have you created a new dedicated user account and configured the credentials
into both DHCP servers?

Here is a great article explaining how DHCP and DNS interact, and tells why
you can disable DDNS on DHCP clients, you are basically making them act like
Pre-Windows 2000 clients that cannot register in DNS.

Using DNS servers with DHCP:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...spx?mfr=trueOn all networks I manage, I have cleared the "Register this connection'saddresses in DNS" check box on all DHCP addressed clients, and configuredDHCP to register for the clients. Doing this prevents the issue of oneclient updating a record registered by another DHCP client because all DHCPclients are registered by the DHCP server.Here are the recommended DHCP options I use.In addition use these Options,003 (router),006 (DNS Server),044 (WINS Servers)046 (Node type 0x8)015 (DNS Domain Name)I also have these Advanced DHCP options:001 Microsoft Windows 2000 Disable NetBIOS(0x0)002 Microsoft Windows 2000 Release DHCP lease on shutdown (0x1)On the DNS tab of the DHCP server properties sheet:3. Enable DNS updates according to the settings below:4. Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records5. Discard A and PTR records when lease is deleted.6. Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do notrequest updates (for example, clients running Windows NT4.0)This final setting is what allows clients that have DNS registrationsdisabled in TCP/IP on the DNS tab, to be registered in DNS.Advanced tab of DHCP propertiesClick the Credentials button and configure dedicated user account (Normaluser with no special privileges)These settings even allow my son's Xbox and my DirecTV HR20 DVR which runsLinux to be registered in DNS. (For whatever use it is, it just proves thatDHCP can register for Linux)--Best regards,Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]Hope This s===================================When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"via your newsreader so that others may learn andbenefit from your issue, to respond directly tome remove the nospam. from my email address.===================================http://www.lonestaramerica.com/http://support.wftx.us/http://message.wftx.us/===================================Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:It will strip signature out and morehttp://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/===================================Keep a back up of your OE settings and folderswith OEBackup:http://www.oe.com/OEBackup/Defau...==============

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Vieux 22/04/2008, 16h46   #3
David
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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for your reply. I have set it up as described in the article and how
you have set yours up. Unfortunately its still not updating records for
remote VPN clients. Anyother thoughts.

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
news:eVjyDtHpIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Read inline please.
>
> In news:OJCJMyEpIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> David <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I posted this on the Server.general newsgroups but not heard anything
>> back. Probably isn't the right newsgroup really. Thought i would try
>> here to see if anyone can ;
>>
>> We have an issue whereby we want external clients to register there
>> VPN IP addresses in DNS. The VPN connections are handled by a RAS
>> server which gets the IP addresses from DHCP. There are two DHCP
>> Servers;
>>
>> DC01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>>
>> Server01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>>
>> Server02 RAS
>>
>> Both the servers are set to update A and PTR records for clients. In
>> DNS however this doesn't seem to be the case. I then added DC01 to the
>> DNSUpdateProxy and when i did this i saw my test laptop register its
>> ip in dns. I then disconnected and reconnected and got a different IP
>> address. the ip address i got then was one which was already
>> associated with an A record for another computer but the lease for
>> the IP had expired hence why it was assigned to me. With the DHCP
>> servers there are no overlaps in the IP address scopes. Do you think
>> the A record for the other computer is stopping my system from
>> registering a DNS record?
>>
>> Please note that there is no scavenging turned on at the server or
>> the zone levels.
>>
>> David.

>
>
> In my opinion, there is really no need for scavenging if the clients and
> the
> DHCP servers are properly configured.
>
> Have you created a new dedicated user account and configured the
> credentials
> into both DHCP servers?
>
> Here is a great article explaining how DHCP and DNS interact, and tells
> why
> you can disable DDNS on DHCP clients, you are basically making them act
> like
> Pre-Windows 2000 clients that cannot register in DNS.
>
> Using DNS servers with DHCP:
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...spx?mfr=trueOn
> all networks I manage, I have cleared the "Register this
> connection'saddresses in DNS" check box on all DHCP addressed clients, and
> configuredDHCP to register for the clients. Doing this prevents the issue
> of oneclient updating a record registered by another DHCP client because
> all DHCPclients are registered by the DHCP server.Here are the recommended
> DHCP options I use.In addition use these Options,003 (router),006 (DNS
> Server),044 (WINS Servers)046 (Node type 0x8)015 (DNS Domain Name)I also
> have these Advanced DHCP options:001 Microsoft Windows 2000 Disable
> NetBIOS(0x0)002 Microsoft Windows 2000 Release DHCP lease on shutdown
> (0x1)On the DNS tab of the DHCP server properties sheet:3. Enable DNS
> updates according to the settings below:4. Always dynamically update DNS A
> and PTR records5. Discard A and PTR records when lease is deleted.6.
> Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do
> notrequest updates (for example, clients running Windows NT4.0)This final
> setting is what allows clients that have DNS registrationsdisabled in
> TCP/IP on the DNS tab, to be registered in DNS.Advanced tab of DHCP
> propertiesClick the Credentials button and configure dedicated user
> account (Normaluser with no special privileges)These settings even allow
> my son's Xbox and my DirecTV HR20 DVR which runsLinux to be registered in
> DNS. (For whatever use it is, it just proves thatDHCP can register for
> Linux)--Best regards,Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]Hope This
> s===================================When responding to posts, please
> "Reply to Group"via your newsreader so that others may learn andbenefit
> from your issue, to respond directly tome remove the nospam. from my email
> address.===================================http://www.lonestaramerica.com/http://support.wftx.us/http://message.wftx.us/===================================Use
> Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:It will strip signature out and
> morehttp://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/===================================Keep
> a back up of your OE settings and folderswith
> OEBackup:http://www.oe.com/OEBackup/Defau...==============
>



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Vieux 23/04/2008, 16h23   #4
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Shoud i Enable My RAS server as a LAN router as well?

"David" <wibble@wobble.com> wrote in message
news:OvNlMAJpIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I have set it up as described in the article and
> how you have set yours up. Unfortunately its still not updating records
> for remote VPN clients. Anyother thoughts.
>
> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> news:eVjyDtHpIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Read inline please.
>>
>> In news:OJCJMyEpIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>> David <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I posted this on the Server.general newsgroups but not heard anything
>>> back. Probably isn't the right newsgroup really. Thought i would try
>>> here to see if anyone can ;
>>>
>>> We have an issue whereby we want external clients to register there
>>> VPN IP addresses in DNS. The VPN connections are handled by a RAS
>>> server which gets the IP addresses from DHCP. There are two DHCP
>>> Servers;
>>>
>>> DC01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>>>
>>> Server01 DHCP,DNS, Domain Controller
>>>
>>> Server02 RAS
>>>
>>> Both the servers are set to update A and PTR records for clients. In
>>> DNS however this doesn't seem to be the case. I then added DC01 to the
>>> DNSUpdateProxy and when i did this i saw my test laptop register its
>>> ip in dns. I then disconnected and reconnected and got a different IP
>>> address. the ip address i got then was one which was already
>>> associated with an A record for another computer but the lease for
>>> the IP had expired hence why it was assigned to me. With the DHCP
>>> servers there are no overlaps in the IP address scopes. Do you think
>>> the A record for the other computer is stopping my system from
>>> registering a DNS record?
>>>
>>> Please note that there is no scavenging turned on at the server or
>>> the zone levels.
>>>
>>> David.

>>
>>
>> In my opinion, there is really no need for scavenging if the clients and
>> the
>> DHCP servers are properly configured.
>>
>> Have you created a new dedicated user account and configured the
>> credentials
>> into both DHCP servers?
>>
>> Here is a great article explaining how DHCP and DNS interact, and tells
>> why
>> you can disable DDNS on DHCP clients, you are basically making them act
>> like
>> Pre-Windows 2000 clients that cannot register in DNS.
>>
>> Using DNS servers with DHCP:
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...spx?mfr=trueOn
>> all networks I manage, I have cleared the "Register this
>> connection'saddresses in DNS" check box on all DHCP addressed clients,
>> and configuredDHCP to register for the clients. Doing this prevents the
>> issue of oneclient updating a record registered by another DHCP client
>> because all DHCPclients are registered by the DHCP server.Here are the
>> recommended DHCP options I use.In addition use these Options,003
>> (router),006 (DNS Server),044 (WINS Servers)046 (Node type 0x8)015 (DNS
>> Domain Name)I also have these Advanced DHCP options:001 Microsoft Windows
>> 2000 Disable NetBIOS(0x0)002 Microsoft Windows 2000 Release DHCP lease on
>> shutdown (0x1)On the DNS tab of the DHCP server properties sheet:3.
>> Enable DNS updates according to the settings below:4. Always dynamically
>> update DNS A and PTR records5. Discard A and PTR records when lease is
>> deleted.6. Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that
>> do notrequest updates (for example, clients running Windows NT4.0)This
>> final setting is what allows clients that have DNS registrationsdisabled
>> in TCP/IP on the DNS tab, to be registered in DNS.Advanced tab of DHCP
>> propertiesClick the Credentials button and configure dedicated user
>> account (Normaluser with no special privileges)These settings even allow
>> my son's Xbox and my DirecTV HR20 DVR which runsLinux to be registered in
>> DNS. (For whatever use it is, it just proves thatDHCP can register for
>> Linux)--Best regards,Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]Hope This
>> s===================================When responding to posts, please
>> "Reply to Group"via your newsreader so that others may learn andbenefit
>> from your issue, to respond directly tome remove the nospam. from my
>> email
>> address.===================================http://www.lonestaramerica.com/http://support.wftx.us/http://message.wftx.us/===================================Use
>> Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:It will strip signature out and
>> morehttp://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/===================================Keep
>> a back up of your OE settings and folderswith
>> OEBackup:http://www.oe.com/OEBackup/Defau...==============
>>

>
>



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Vieux 25/04/2008, 16h50   #5
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Read inline please.

In news:OtLgOYVpIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
David <wibble@wobble.com> wrote:
> Shoud i Enable My RAS server as a LAN router as well?


Yes, you should.




--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
Hope This s

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