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Vieux 17/03/2007, 19h12   #1
nutso fasst
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Firewall logs show increasing numbers of ICMP type 3 responses to alternate
DNS servers. I do not see any requests to or from those servers. What could
be prompting the ICMP responses?

Thanks,
nf


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Vieux 17/03/2007, 19h25   #2
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"nutso fasst" <no.replies@no.where> wrote in message
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> Firewall logs show increasing numbers of ICMP type 3 responses to
> alternate
> DNS servers. I do not see any requests to or from those servers. What
> could
> be prompting the ICMP responses?


You have left your network design completely unexplained except to
mention a "firewall" without describing its placement or function -- it
might be between your internal network and the internet or a mere
"local or personal firewall" on a single machine, or something else.

It is possible that the ICMP responses (to request traffic never sent
by that machine) is being caused by some form of the ping of death
attack, especially to a distributed denial of service.

What does the net look like? What addresses are the source addresses
of these ICMP packets? (Where is there source, inside or outside
your netwokr?) These might be spoofed but may not be if the are
"relatively innocent" machines being co-opted for such an attack.

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Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
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Vieux 17/03/2007, 21h30   #3
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"Herb Martin" <news@learnquick.com> wrote in message
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> What does the net look like? What addresses are the source addresses
> of these ICMP packets? (Where is there source, inside or outside
> your netwokr?) These might be spoofed but may not be if the are
> "relatively innocent" machines being co-opted for such an attack.


Thanks for the reply. The ICMP source is the local server. The only info
logged is the source IP (local server's internet IP address), the
destination IPs (ISP's internet DNS servers), and the ICMP type (3). The
local IP is the internet side of a private network - user traffic only, no
servers (primary DNS is hosted locally at another IP).

I do not show ANY other traffic between the local server and the internet
DNS servers - nothing incoming for the local server to respond to with ICMP
3. Nor is there any relationship between internal network traffic and the
ICMP 3 responses.

I am currently blocking the outgoing ICMP type 3. The log entries appear as
sequences of 3, 6 or 9 ICMP outgoing - 3 to one external IP, then 3 or 6 to
another.

I first noticed this about a month ago as an occasional thing. Now it's
every few minutes.

nf


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Vieux 20/03/2007, 00h34   #4
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Still not sure what was producing these, but disabling recursion in primary
DNS and changing some 'log only' rules for temporary monitoring in the FW
has stopped them.

nf


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Vieux 20/03/2007, 00h46   #5
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Oops, never mind, they're baaack. Should've checked logs immediately before
posting.


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