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Vieux 27/10/2006, 16h16   #1
Mike55
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Hi,

I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers
(2 2003 and 1 2000). The DHCP servers are also DNS servers.

I have some Mac OS X clients on campus, and I want them to be dynamically
added to DNS as they get their DHCP addresses. The Mac OS X clients do get
DHCP addresses and are listed in the DHCP server address leases, but they are
not added to the DNS servers. I have configured the DNS server properties to:
'Enable DNS dymanic updates according to the settings below:'
'Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records'
'Discard A and PTR records when lease is deleted'
'Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do not
request updates (for example, clients running Windows NT 4.0)'

Any ideas why my DHCP servers are not updating my DNS servers with Mac OS
X client information?

Is there something else I need to configure?

Have I configured something incorrectly?

Thanks,
Mike
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Vieux 28/10/2006, 02h10   #2
Herb Martin
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"Mike55" <Mike55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:75611796-0156-427B-B632-79ED2E46EB92@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers
> (2 2003 and 1 2000). The DHCP servers are also DNS servers.
>
> I have some Mac OS X clients on campus, and I want them to be
> dynamically
> added to DNS as they get their DHCP addresses. The Mac OS X clients do
> get
> DHCP addresses and are listed in the DHCP server address leases, but they
> are
> not added to the DNS servers. I have configured the DNS server properties
> to:
> 'Enable DNS dymanic updates according to the settings below:'
> 'Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records'
> 'Discard A and PTR records when lease is deleted'
> 'Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do not
> request updates (for example, clients running Windows NT 4.0)'
>
> Any ideas why my DHCP servers are not updating my DNS servers with Mac
> OS
> X client information?
>
> Is there something else I need to configure?
> Have I configured something incorrectly?


Did you give the DNS scope the DNS domain NAME
of those machines? (Otherwise it won't know in which
zone to register them...)

Is the zone dynamic? Do you get any other machines to
register by the DHCP server?

Can the DHCP server 'find' the DNS server?



--
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Accelerated MCSE
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> Thanks,
> Mike



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Vieux 28/10/2006, 20h44   #3
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Mike55 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
> servers (2 2003 and 1 2000). The DHCP servers are also DNS servers.
>
> I have some Mac OS X clients on campus, and I want them to be
> dynamically added to DNS as they get their DHCP addresses. The Mac
> OS X clients do get DHCP addresses and are listed in the DHCP server
> address leases, but they are not added to the DNS servers. I have
> configured the DNS server properties to: 'Enable DNS dymanic
> updates according to the settings below:' 'Always dynamically
> update DNS A and PTR records' 'Discard A and PTR records when
> lease is deleted' 'Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for
> DHCP clients that do not request updates (for example, clients
> running Windows NT 4.0)'
>
> Any ideas why my DHCP servers are not updating my DNS servers with
> Mac OS X client information?
>
> Is there something else I need to configure?
>
> Have I configured something incorrectly?


Have you assigned the creadentials of a dedicated user account on the DHCP
servers' properties sheet, Advanced tab? (usea non-expiring strong password,
the account need not have any special priviledges)

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Vieux 28/10/2006, 22h38   #4
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>> Any ideas why my DHCP servers are not updating my DNS servers with
>> Mac OS X client information?
>>
>> Is there something else I need to configure?
>>
>> Have I configured something incorrectly?

>
> Have you assigned the creadentials of a dedicated user account on the DHCP
> servers' properties sheet, Advanced tab? (usea non-expiring strong
> password,
> the account need not have any special priviledges)
>



Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
his DHCP servers have never registered the record
(they aren't yet fighting over it.)

The point of the credentials is to give all of the
DHCP servers which might ever update the record
the same account so the record will (effectively) be
owned in common.

He has something else wrong as I understood him --
something where the record doesn't get created to start....


--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
news:e6PH3ls%23GHA.4468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mike55 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
>> servers (2 2003 and 1 2000). The DHCP servers are also DNS servers.
>>
>> I have some Mac OS X clients on campus, and I want them to be
>> dynamically added to DNS as they get their DHCP addresses. The Mac
>> OS X clients do get DHCP addresses and are listed in the DHCP server
>> address leases, but they are not added to the DNS servers. I have
>> configured the DNS server properties to: 'Enable DNS dymanic
>> updates according to the settings below:' 'Always dynamically
>> update DNS A and PTR records' 'Discard A and PTR records when
>> lease is deleted' 'Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for
>> DHCP clients that do not request updates (for example, clients
>> running Windows NT 4.0)'
>>
>> Any ideas why my DHCP servers are not updating my DNS servers with
>> Mac OS X client information?
>>
>> Is there something else I need to configure?
>>
>> Have I configured something incorrectly?

>
> Have you assigned the creadentials of a dedicated user account on the DHCP
> servers' properties sheet, Advanced tab? (usea non-expiring strong
> password,
> the account need not have any special priviledges)
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This s
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Vieux 28/10/2006, 23h29   #5
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Herb Martin wrote:

> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)


I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers



>
> The point of the credentials is to give all of the
> DHCP servers which might ever update the record
> the same account so the record will (effectively) be
> owned in common.


The best point of the credentials is so the DHCP servers maintain single
ownership of the records all DHCP servers create. Otherwise, "Delete A and
PTR records when lease expires" won't happen because the DHCP servers
doesn't have ownership. This function comes in real handy for removing PTR
records for laptops that register their own records and are usually suddenly
disconnected without releasing their IP lease leaving the PTRs in DNS. It's
not a big problem for A records because laptops are not usually not renamed
while disconnected and can easily overwrite A records with its name because
it owns it. The next time the laptop is connected, it may not be able to
lease the same IP and it cannot update a record it does not own, so it just
registers another PTR.


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Vieux 29/10/2006, 07h01   #6
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"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Herb Martin wrote:
>
>> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
>> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
>> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)

>
> I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
>> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers

>


No, not really -- the key was that he didn't see to be
getting ANY updates for Macs (ever) and had no
problems (yet) with other machines.

Eventually he has to deal with the credentials if
the two DHCP servers lease to (any of) the same
names (clients more from subnet to subnet or both
DHCP servers offer on same subnets.)

That is your point and he he needs to know about
that so you did well too inform him, but it isn't going
to fix his initial problem and therefore needs to be
differentiated from the direct issue in the question.

--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Herb Martin wrote:
>
>> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
>> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
>> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)

>
> I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
>> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers

>
>
>>
>> The point of the credentials is to give all of the
>> DHCP servers which might ever update the record
>> the same account so the record will (effectively) be
>> owned in common.

>
> The best point of the credentials is so the DHCP servers maintain single
> ownership of the records all DHCP servers create. Otherwise, "Delete A and
> PTR records when lease expires" won't happen because the DHCP servers
> doesn't have ownership. This function comes in real handy for removing PTR
> records for laptops that register their own records and are usually
> suddenly
> disconnected without releasing their IP lease leaving the PTRs in DNS.
> It's
> not a big problem for A records because laptops are not usually not
> renamed
> while disconnected and can easily overwrite A records with its name
> because
> it owns it. The next time the laptop is connected, it may not be able to
> lease the same IP and it cannot update a record it does not own, so it
> just
> registers another PTR.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> Hope This s
> ===================================
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Vieux 30/10/2006, 17h24   #7
Mike55
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"Herb Martin" wrote:

> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Herb Martin wrote:
> >
> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)

> >
> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers

> >

>
> No, not really -- the key was that he didn't see to be
> getting ANY updates for Macs (ever) and had no
> problems (yet) with other machines.
>
> Eventually he has to deal with the credentials if
> the two DHCP servers lease to (any of) the same
> names (clients more from subnet to subnet or both
> DHCP servers offer on same subnets.)
>
> That is your point and he he needs to know about
> that so you did well too inform him, but it isn't going
> to fix his initial problem and therefore needs to be
> differentiated from the direct issue in the question.
>
> --
> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> Accelerated MCSE
> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> [phone number on web site]
>
> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Herb Martin wrote:
> >
> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)

> >
> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS servers

> >
> >
> >>
> >> The point of the credentials is to give all of the
> >> DHCP servers which might ever update the record
> >> the same account so the record will (effectively) be
> >> owned in common.

> >
> > The best point of the credentials is so the DHCP servers maintain single
> > ownership of the records all DHCP servers create. Otherwise, "Delete A and
> > PTR records when lease expires" won't happen because the DHCP servers
> > doesn't have ownership. This function comes in real handy for removing PTR
> > records for laptops that register their own records and are usually
> > suddenly
> > disconnected without releasing their IP lease leaving the PTRs in DNS.
> > It's
> > not a big problem for A records because laptops are not usually not
> > renamed
> > while disconnected and can easily overwrite A records with its name
> > because
> > it owns it. The next time the laptop is connected, it may not be able to
> > lease the same IP and it cannot update a record it does not own, so it
> > just
> > registers another PTR.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> > Hope This s
> > ===================================
> > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
> > via your newsreader so that others may learn and
> > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
> > me remove the nospam. from my email address.
> > ===================================
> > http://www.lonestaramerica.com/
> > http://support.wftx.us/
> > http://message.wftx.us/
> > ===================================
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> > It will strip signature out and more
> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> > ===================================
> > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
> > with OEBackup:
> > http://www.oe.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
> > ===================================
> >
> >

>
>
>


Thanks for all your input so far! Here's some more info:

I have several hundred windows 2k/xp clients and a couple dozen windows
2k/2k3 servers all working fine in my domain. The DHCP, DNS, and domain
controllers are all the same machines. So I have:
SERVER1: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
SERVER2: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
SERVER3: Win2k Domain Controller, DNS (legacy server soon to be retired)

The mac client I am working on is a OS X 10.3 with all latest updates. I
can bind it to AD and AD recognizes it fine. I can also login to the Mac
using an AD domain account and connect to windows server shared drives, etc.
The Mac gets a DHCP lease successfully, and it is pingable by ip, but in
doing a ping -a to the ip, the name is not resolved, nor is the computer
added to DNS. The DHCP server does list the computer by computer name, but
cannot ping it.

I did add user credentials to the DHCP properties just to make sure that's
not the problem, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.

I haven't tried restarting DHCP or DNS, yet, so that may be in order.

Any other ideas?

Can you get a Mac OS X client onto your AD domain and get it working with
your DHCP/DNS systems? Maybe we can compare configs...
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Vieux 30/10/2006, 22h02   #8
kj
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"Mike55" <Mike55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F6FF5070-F705-43E7-9F93-6E85B5ACF589@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Herb Martin" wrote:
>
>> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
>> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Herb Martin wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
>> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
>> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)
>> >
>> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
>> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
>> >> servers
>> >

>>
>> No, not really -- the key was that he didn't see to be
>> getting ANY updates for Macs (ever) and had no
>> problems (yet) with other machines.
>>
>> Eventually he has to deal with the credentials if
>> the two DHCP servers lease to (any of) the same
>> names (clients more from subnet to subnet or both
>> DHCP servers offer on same subnets.)
>>
>> That is your point and he he needs to know about
>> that so you did well too inform him, but it isn't going
>> to fix his initial problem and therefore needs to be
>> differentiated from the direct issue in the question.
>>
>> --
>> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
>> Accelerated MCSE
>> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
>> [phone number on web site]
>>
>> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
>> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Herb Martin wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
>> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
>> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)
>> >
>> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
>> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
>> >> servers
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The point of the credentials is to give all of the
>> >> DHCP servers which might ever update the record
>> >> the same account so the record will (effectively) be
>> >> owned in common.
>> >
>> > The best point of the credentials is so the DHCP servers maintain
>> > single
>> > ownership of the records all DHCP servers create. Otherwise, "Delete A
>> > and
>> > PTR records when lease expires" won't happen because the DHCP servers
>> > doesn't have ownership. This function comes in real handy for removing
>> > PTR
>> > records for laptops that register their own records and are usually
>> > suddenly
>> > disconnected without releasing their IP lease leaving the PTRs in DNS.
>> > It's
>> > not a big problem for A records because laptops are not usually not
>> > renamed
>> > while disconnected and can easily overwrite A records with its name
>> > because
>> > it owns it. The next time the laptop is connected, it may not be able
>> > to
>> > lease the same IP and it cannot update a record it does not own, so it
>> > just
>> > registers another PTR.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
>> > Hope This s
>> > ===================================
>> > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
>> > via your newsreader so that others may learn and
>> > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
>> > me remove the nospam. from my email address.
>> > ===================================
>> > http://www.lonestaramerica.com/
>> > http://support.wftx.us/
>> > http://message.wftx.us/
>> > ===================================
>> > Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
>> > It will strip signature out and more
>> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>> > ===================================
>> > Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
>> > with OEBackup:
>> > http://www.oe.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
>> > ===================================
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>

>
> Thanks for all your input so far! Here's some more info:
>
> I have several hundred windows 2k/xp clients and a couple dozen windows
> 2k/2k3 servers all working fine in my domain. The DHCP, DNS, and domain
> controllers are all the same machines. So I have:
> SERVER1: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
> SERVER2: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
> SERVER3: Win2k Domain Controller, DNS (legacy server soon to be retired)
>
> The mac client I am working on is a OS X 10.3 with all latest updates. I
> can bind it to AD and AD recognizes it fine. I can also login to the Mac
> using an AD domain account and connect to windows server shared drives,
> etc.
> The Mac gets a DHCP lease successfully, and it is pingable by ip, but in
> doing a ping -a to the ip, the name is not resolved, nor is the computer
> added to DNS. The DHCP server does list the computer by computer name,
> but
> cannot ping it.
>
> I did add user credentials to the DHCP properties just to make sure that's
> not the problem, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.
>
> I haven't tried restarting DHCP or DNS, yet, so that may be in order.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Can you get a Mac OS X client onto your AD domain and get it working with
> your DHCP/DNS systems? Maybe we can compare configs...



On the DHCP server properties, check the last box under DNS that reads;

"Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients tha do not
request updates..."

That should do it, but I might restart the DHCP server service just to make
sure.

---
/kj


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Vieux 31/10/2006, 16h03   #9
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"kj" wrote:

>
> "Mike55" <Mike55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F6FF5070-F705-43E7-9F93-6E85B5ACF589@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Herb Martin" wrote:
> >
> >> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> >> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> > Herb Martin wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
> >> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
> >> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)
> >> >
> >> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
> >> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
> >> >> servers
> >> >
> >>
> >> No, not really -- the key was that he didn't see to be
> >> getting ANY updates for Macs (ever) and had no
> >> problems (yet) with other machines.
> >>
> >> Eventually he has to deal with the credentials if
> >> the two DHCP servers lease to (any of) the same
> >> names (clients more from subnet to subnet or both
> >> DHCP servers offer on same subnets.)
> >>
> >> That is your point and he he needs to know about
> >> that so you did well too inform him, but it isn't going
> >> to fix his initial problem and therefore needs to be
> >> differentiated from the direct issue in the question.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> >> Accelerated MCSE
> >> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> >> [phone number on web site]
> >>
> >> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> >> news:O28C7Bu%23GHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> > Herb Martin wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Not an issue if he only has one DHCP server OR if
> >> >> his DHCP servers have never registered the record
> >> >> (they aren't yet fighting over it.)
> >> >
> >> > I guess you missed this in Mike's OP.
> >> >> I have a Windows 2003 domain with 2 2003 DHCP servers and 3 DNS
> >> >> servers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The point of the credentials is to give all of the
> >> >> DHCP servers which might ever update the record
> >> >> the same account so the record will (effectively) be
> >> >> owned in common.
> >> >
> >> > The best point of the credentials is so the DHCP servers maintain
> >> > single
> >> > ownership of the records all DHCP servers create. Otherwise, "Delete A
> >> > and
> >> > PTR records when lease expires" won't happen because the DHCP servers
> >> > doesn't have ownership. This function comes in real handy for removing
> >> > PTR
> >> > records for laptops that register their own records and are usually
> >> > suddenly
> >> > disconnected without releasing their IP lease leaving the PTRs in DNS.
> >> > It's
> >> > not a big problem for A records because laptops are not usually not
> >> > renamed
> >> > while disconnected and can easily overwrite A records with its name
> >> > because
> >> > it owns it. The next time the laptop is connected, it may not be able
> >> > to
> >> > lease the same IP and it cannot update a record it does not own, so it
> >> > just
> >> > registers another PTR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
> >> > Hope This s
> >> > ===================================
> >> > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
> >> > via your newsreader so that others may learn and
> >> > benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
> >> > me remove the nospam. from my email address.
> >> > ===================================
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> >> > http://message.wftx.us/
> >> > ===================================
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Thanks for all your input so far! Here's some more info:
> >
> > I have several hundred windows 2k/xp clients and a couple dozen windows
> > 2k/2k3 servers all working fine in my domain. The DHCP, DNS, and domain
> > controllers are all the same machines. So I have:
> > SERVER1: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
> > SERVER2: Win2k3 Domain Controller, DNS, DHCP
> > SERVER3: Win2k Domain Controller, DNS (legacy server soon to be retired)
> >
> > The mac client I am working on is a OS X 10.3 with all latest updates. I
> > can bind it to AD and AD recognizes it fine. I can also login to the Mac
> > using an AD domain account and connect to windows server shared drives,
> > etc.
> > The Mac gets a DHCP lease successfully, and it is pingable by ip, but in
> > doing a ping -a to the ip, the name is not resolved, nor is the computer
> > added to DNS. The DHCP server does list the computer by computer name,
> > but
> > cannot ping it.
> >
> > I did add user credentials to the DHCP properties just to make sure that's
> > not the problem, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.
> >
> > I haven't tried restarting DHCP or DNS, yet, so that may be in order.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > Can you get a Mac OS X client onto your AD domain and get it working with
> > your DHCP/DNS systems? Maybe we can compare configs...

>
>
> On the DHCP server properties, check the last box under DNS that reads;
>
> "Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients tha do not
> request updates..."
>
> That should do it, but I might restart the DHCP server service just to make
> sure.
>
> ---
> /kj
>
>
>


I have found the solution. I had already selected these options on the DHCP
server:

'Enable DNS dymanic updates according to the settings below:'
'Always dynamically update DNS A and PTR records'
'Discard A and PTR records when lease is deleted'
'Dynamically update DNS A and PTR records for DHCP clients that do not
request updates (for example, clients running Windows NT 4.0)'

What I tried this morning was to also check these options on the SCOPE for
each DHCP server. I restarted DHCP services and now my non-windows DHCP
clients (Mac OS X and Linux) are listed in DNS. So it appears that either
you need to have the options checked on both the DHCP server and SCOPE or at
least have them set on the SCOPE...
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