I am migrating to AD on 2003sp1 /R2 and have all kinds of issues... I thought
with 2000 I read that windows doesn't need WINs since it uses DNS. I am
trying to use an XPSP2 workstation with no WINs and am thinking whatever I
read is a bad joke? error 6118 seems to point to no master browser. my two
DCs have each other as DNS, nslookups do great. it is net neighborhood and
net view that are clueless. like browsing for anything ends at the domain-
don't see any servers!

[a cute gotcha is the bug where if you use a period in a share to a IIS
server to access a mdb, it won't let you connect! "security" I think.
workaround- use netBEUI name oops, I mean netBIOS. my, how things haven't
changed!]

I appreciate some insight- maybe stop me from banging my head against this
desktop.
--
system engineer

You really don't need WINS unless you have a service running on the network
that relies on WINS.

AD relies on DNS.

Basic DNS setup is install DNS on the DC, point the DC to itself for DNS in
the properties of TCP/IP, Point all AD clients (servers are AD clients also)
to the DNS server setup for the AD domain and for Internet access configure
your AD DNS server to forward requests and list your ISP's DNS server as the
forwarder (this is the only place on your AD domain your ISP's DNS servers
should be listed) or use root hints.


See:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814591/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us

hth
DDS


"craig" <craig@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F4AA7A4-9244-46EA-9073-6A2CEB2F52B5@microsoft.com...
>I am migrating to AD on 2003sp1 /R2 and have all kinds of issues... I
>thought
> with 2000 I read that windows doesn't need WINs since it uses DNS. I am
> trying to use an XPSP2 workstation with no WINs and am thinking whatever I
> read is a bad joke? error 6118 seems to point to no master browser. my
> two
> DCs have each other as DNS, nslookups do great. it is net neighborhood
> and
> net view that are clueless. like browsing for anything ends at the domain-
> don't see any servers!
>
> [a cute gotcha is the bug where if you use a period in a share to a IIS
> server to access a mdb, it won't let you connect! "security" I think.
> workaround- use netBEUI name oops, I mean netBIOS. my, how things
> haven't
> changed!]
>
> I appreciate some insight- maybe stop me from banging my head against
> this
> desktop.
> --
> system engineer

may have answered my own question. "no"
FROM TCPIP_FUND.PDF a 545 page MS online book appendix C

"The Computer Browser service operates by exchanging a set of NetBIOS over
TCP/IP (NetBT) broadcast and unicast messages. There is no support for
computer browsing over IPv6. If NetBT is disabled, the Computer Browser
service can no longer operate. This means that for a network that has NetBT
disabled and

is just using the Domain Name System (DNS) and Active Directory, you cannot
view any LAN groups or servers using the Entire Network window.

You must use find computers using Active Directory."

not sure how to specify this type of search from my XP. but a search for
computers did turn up my F&PS, so can copy paste paths from drilling down the
server. live&learn

then how do you map drives? especially if you cannot see the shares? I
know you guys are doing this, but Novell was never this troublesome (well,
OK- running TCPIP in 4.11 was no fun, but that was over 10 years ago)

I must be missing something! is it just WIN and bear it?

thanks
--
system engineer


"craig" wrote:

> I am migrating to AD on 2003sp1 /R2 and have all kinds of issues... I thought
> with 2000 I read that windows doesn't need WINs since it uses DNS. I am
> trying to use an XPSP2 workstation with no WINs and am thinking whatever I
> read is a bad joke? error 6118 seems to point to no master browser. my two
> DCs have each other as DNS, nslookups do great. it is net neighborhood and
> net view that are clueless. like browsing for anything ends at the domain-
> don't see any servers!
>
> [a cute gotcha is the bug where if you use a period in a share to a IIS
> server to access a mdb, it won't let you connect! "security" I think.
> workaround- use netBEUI name oops, I mean netBIOS. my, how things haven't
> changed!]
>
> I appreciate some insight- maybe stop me from banging my head against this
> desktop.
> --
> system engineer

"Danny Sanders" <DSanders@NOSPAMciber.com> wrote in message
news:OQJrodG9GHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You really don't need WINS unless you have a service running on the
> network that relies on WINS.

But like most people he probably wants Browsing to
work which relies on NetBIOS.

And, he doesn't really need WINS Server unless he has
more than one subnet -- broadcasts work fine for single
subnet LANs.

> AD relies on DNS.

Mostly, but somethings like External Trusts and setting
"logon to" workstation restrictions in AD User properties
are NetBIOS based.

> Basic DNS setup is install DNS on the DC, point the DC to itself for DNS
> in the properties of TCP/IP, Point all AD clients (servers are AD clients
> also) to the DNS server setup for the AD domain and for Internet access
> configure your AD DNS server to forward requests and list your ISP's DNS
> server as the forwarder (this is the only place on your AD domain your
> ISP's DNS servers should be listed) or use root hints.



--
Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
Accelerated MCSE
http://www.LearnQuick.Com
[phone number on web site]

> See:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814591/en-us
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825036/en-us
>
> hth
> DDS
>
>
> "craig" <craig@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8F4AA7A4-9244-46EA-9073-6A2CEB2F52B5@microsoft.com...
>>I am migrating to AD on 2003sp1 /R2 and have all kinds of issues... I
>>thought
>> with 2000 I read that windows doesn't need WINs since it uses DNS. I am
>> trying to use an XPSP2 workstation with no WINs and am thinking whatever
>> I
>> read is a bad joke? error 6118 seems to point to no master browser. my
>> two
>> DCs have each other as DNS, nslookups do great. it is net neighborhood
>> and
>> net view that are clueless. like browsing for anything ends at the
>> domain-
>> don't see any servers!
>>
>> [a cute gotcha is the bug where if you use a period in a share to a IIS
>> server to access a mdb, it won't let you connect! "security" I think.
>> workaround- use netBEUI name oops, I mean netBIOS. my, how things
>> haven't
>> changed!]
>>
>> I appreciate some insight- maybe stop me from banging my head against
>> this
>> desktop.
>> --
>> system engineer
>
>

craig wrote:
> may have answered my own question. "no"
> FROM TCPIP_FUND.PDF a 545 page MS online book appendix C
>
> "The Computer Browser service operates by exchanging a set of NetBIOS
> over TCP/IP (NetBT) broadcast and unicast messages. There is no
> support for computer browsing over IPv6. If NetBT is disabled, the
> Computer Browser service can no longer operate. This means that for a
> network that has NetBT disabled and
>
> is just using the Domain Name System (DNS) and Active Directory, you
> cannot view any LAN groups or servers using the Entire Network window.
>
> You must use find computers using Active Directory."
>
> not sure how to specify this type of search from my XP. but a search
> for computers did turn up my F&PS, so can copy paste paths from
> drilling down the server. live&learn
>
> then how do you map drives? especially if you cannot see the shares?
> I
> know you guys are doing this, but Novell was never this troublesome
> (well,
> OK- running TCPIP in 4.11 was no fun, but that was over 10 years ago)
>
> I must be missing something! is it just WIN and bear it?


Publish your shares in Active Directory preferably by their Fully-Qualified
Domain Name, then if you really want to Browse network places for your
shares in Windows XP, create the Directory Icon using the dsfolder.dll from
Windows 2000 SP 4.

Publishing a Shared Folder in Windows 2000 Active Directory:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/234582/en-us

The Directory icon in Entire Network in My Network Places is missing:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/329495/en-us

Download the file separately:
http://download.wftx.us/DSFolder/dsfolder.zip


--
Best regards,
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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