I inherited a doamin that was named landomain.com. Their website is
www.landoamin.com. They were having loacal DNS problems finding the server on
the lan. It turns out hey had the ISP as the preferred & secondary DNS
servers on the server. I changed the DNS to the local server (itself). I set
up forwarders to the ISP and all is well on the lan with the exception of
finding the company web page on the Internet from this LAN. The landomain.com
DNS is looking internally for www.landomain.com as it is looking locally and
nobody can resolve that lookup on the internet. I put the ISP DNS as a
secondary (on the server) and it doesn't make it to that if it fails
internally. The lookup fails. How can I get that one site to resolve outside
rather than inside?

Thanks in advance,
Joe K

Joe K wrote:
> I inherited a doamin that was named landomain.com. Their website is
> www.landoamin.com. They were having loacal DNS problems finding the
> server on the lan. It turns out hey had the ISP as the preferred &
> secondary DNS servers on the server. I changed the DNS to the local
> server (itself). I set up forwarders to the ISP and all is well on
> the lan with the exception of finding the company web page on the
> Internet from this LAN. The landomain.com DNS is looking internally
> for www.landomain.com as it is looking locally and nobody can resolve
> that lookup on the internet. I put the ISP DNS as a secondary (on the
> server) and it doesn't make it to that if it fails internally. The
> lookup fails. How can I get that one site to resolve outside rather
> than inside?

You will need to create a new host record named www and give it the IP
address of the website. Accessing the website by using only
http://landomain.com will not be possible, that name must resolve only the
internal addresses of all domain controllers for the \\landomain.com\SYSVOL
and \\landomain.com\NETLOGON DFS Shares.
Alternately, you can create a website on all domain controllers for
http://landomain.com and use the Home Directory tab on the website
properties sheet to redirect to http://www.landomain.com.

Under no circumstances should you use your ISP's DNS in TCP/IP properties on
any interface of any domain member, including DCs and DNS servers.

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"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

> Joe K wrote:
> > I inherited a doamin that was named landomain.com. Their website is
> > www.landoamin.com. They were having loacal DNS problems finding the
> > server on the lan. It turns out hey had the ISP as the preferred &
> > secondary DNS servers on the server. I changed the DNS to the local
> > server (itself). I set up forwarders to the ISP and all is well on
> > the lan with the exception of finding the company web page on the
> > Internet from this LAN. The landomain.com DNS is looking internally
> > for www.landomain.com as it is looking locally and nobody can resolve
> > that lookup on the internet. I put the ISP DNS as a secondary (on the
> > server) and it doesn't make it to that if it fails internally. The
> > lookup fails. How can I get that one site to resolve outside rather
> > than inside?
>
> You will need to create a new host record named www and give it the IP
> address of the website. Accessing the website by using only
> http://landomain.com will not be possible, that name must resolve only the
> internal addresses of all domain controllers for the \\landomain.com\SYSVOL
> and \\landomain.com\NETLOGON DFS Shares.
> Alternately, you can create a website on all domain controllers for
> http://landomain.com and use the Home Directory tab on the website
> properties sheet to redirect to http://www.landomain.com.
>
> Under no circumstances should you use your ISP's DNS in TCP/IP properties on
> any interface of any domain member, including DCs and DNS servers.
>
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Thanks Kevin,
Agreed, I don't knwo what they were thinking setting up the domain with .com
instead of .local or .lan. What I did temporarily is add an entry into the
host file on each machine pointing to the website and flushed everyone's DNS
cache. There are only 5 workstations and a Win2K Server. This resolves the
site externally & allows the DNS internally & externally to be handled by the
DC.
One more quick ??
Would changing the domain to .local mean re-doing the entire network? i.e.
domain memebership, computer & user accounts, AD, DNS etc.

thanks again

Joe K wrote:
> Thanks Kevin,
> Agreed, I don't knwo what they were thinking setting up the domain
> with .com instead of .local or .lan.

This is a purely political decision, I don't get into whether it is right or
wrong, I only give you the options you have if this is the choice they make.
I do recommend that they have a full understanding of the effects of naming
the internal and external domains the same. Most all things can be worked
around. What I said was accessing an external website by
http://landomain.com is not possible and still have GPOs and Logon/Logoff
scripts work. Internal clients must use www.landomain.com.

> What I did temporarily is add an
> entry into the host file on each machine pointing to the website and
> flushed everyone's DNS cache. There are only 5 workstations and a
> Win2K Server. This resolves the site externally & allows the DNS
> internally & externally to be handled by the DC.

Which record did you add to the Hosts file?
It makes little sense to add this to the hosts file, you may not be around
when they get a new machine, you should have just added the www record to
DNS that would have fixed it permanently.
If you added the landomain.com to the host file, you did more harm than
good, regardless if they have 5 or 5000 member workstations, group policies
are applied from the \\landomain.com\SYSVOL\landomain.com\policies share
and Logon/Logoff scripts are in the \\landomain.com\NETLOGON share, if the
domain name resolves to the website, whether in DNS or the host files they
(member workstations & users) will try to connect to the webserver to get
the GPOs and Logon/Logoff scripts.

> One more quick ??
> Would changing the domain to .local mean re-doing the entire network?
> i.e. domain memebership, computer & user accounts, AD, DNS etc.

It is possible to rename a Domain if the forest is in Windows Server 2003
Native mode, but it is not a simple process and should not be taken lightly.
I suggest you spend a few weeks studying the process before you consider
starting a domain rename.


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I added the following line to the host file.
1.2.3.4 www.wewbsite.com

I would rather do it properly. In DNS do I just add a host(A) in the
localdomain zone with the same information as above?

Thanks again very much for your assistance.

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

> Joe K wrote:
> > Thanks Kevin,
> > Agreed, I don't knwo what they were thinking setting up the domain
> > with .com instead of .local or .lan.
>
> This is a purely political decision, I don't get into whether it is right or
> wrong, I only give you the options you have if this is the choice they make.
> I do recommend that they have a full understanding of the effects of naming
> the internal and external domains the same. Most all things can be worked
> around. What I said was accessing an external website by
> http://landomain.com is not possible and still have GPOs and Logon/Logoff
> scripts work. Internal clients must use www.landomain.com.
>
> > What I did temporarily is add an
> > entry into the host file on each machine pointing to the website and
> > flushed everyone's DNS cache. There are only 5 workstations and a
> > Win2K Server. This resolves the site externally & allows the DNS
> > internally & externally to be handled by the DC.
>
> Which record did you add to the Hosts file?
> It makes little sense to add this to the hosts file, you may not be around
> when they get a new machine, you should have just added the www record to
> DNS that would have fixed it permanently.
> If you added the landomain.com to the host file, you did more harm than
> good, regardless if they have 5 or 5000 member workstations, group policies
> are applied from the \\landomain.com\SYSVOL\landomain.com\policies share
> and Logon/Logoff scripts are in the \\landomain.com\NETLOGON share, if the
> domain name resolves to the website, whether in DNS or the host files they
> (member workstations & users) will try to connect to the webserver to get
> the GPOs and Logon/Logoff scripts.
>
> > One more quick ??
> > Would changing the domain to .local mean re-doing the entire network?
> > i.e. domain memebership, computer & user accounts, AD, DNS etc.
>
> It is possible to rename a Domain if the forest is in Windows Server 2003
> Native mode, but it is not a simple process and should not be taken lightly.
> I suggest you spend a few weeks studying the process before you consider
> starting a domain rename.
>
>
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Joe K wrote:
> I added the following line to the host file.
> 1.2.3.4 www.wewbsite.com
>
> I would rather do it properly. In DNS do I just add a host(A) in the
> localdomain zone with the same information as above?

Yes, Open the zone, click with your right mouse button, select New host, in
the name field type www, and give it the IP of the website.

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Sorry for barrage of questions.

Do you mean type "www" and the IP or www.website.com and the IP

Thanks,
Joe K.

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

> Joe K wrote:
> > I added the following line to the host file.
> > 1.2.3.4 www.wewbsite.com
> >
> > I would rather do it properly. In DNS do I just add a host(A) in the
> > localdomain zone with the same information as above?
>
> Yes, Open the zone, click with your right mouse button, select New host, in
> the name field type www, and give it the IP of the website.
>
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Joe K wrote:
> Sorry for barrage of questions.
>
> Do you mean type "www" and the IP or www.website.com and the IP

Just what I said, in the name field, type www, and give it the IP of the
website.


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OK Kevin, thank very much for your and your patience.

Joe

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" wrote:

> Joe K wrote:
> > Sorry for barrage of questions.
> >
> > Do you mean type "www" and the IP or www.website.com and the IP
>
> Just what I said, in the name field, type www, and give it the IP of the
> website.
>
>
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