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Vieux 31/08/2006, 13h42   #1
ditulab
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If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause the
computer to search through each domain I supply. here is my problem. I have a
computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and each
dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
stand-alone site.
I configured the computer with the connection to both sites with both dns
servers, one as primary (preferred) and one as secondary (alternate) oin TCIP
properities. Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns suffxes"
so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection to
site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the second
dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i wrong
about how this should work?
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Vieux 31/08/2006, 14h33   #2
Jorge Silva
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Hi

> If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause the
> computer to search through each domain I supply.


- Only if it fails to search in their default dns suffixess, and doesn't
search for all, it searches according with the order of the dns suffixes
provided untill it finds the name that you're searching.
For example if you have a computer named wkst01 in domain1 and another
computer named wkst01 in domain2, how DNS know which answer would you want?
(this is one amomg other things, why keeping PCs accross forest with
different names is important)

> I have a
> computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and each
> dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
> stand-alone site.


Stand-Alone Site??? Site is different from domain. what do you mean with
this?

> Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns suffxes"
> so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection to
> site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
> second
> dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
> wrong
> about how this should work?


Your computer only use the 1 DNS server, so the 1 (Preferred) configured DNS
server must be able to resolve both domains. Your computer will only try to
use the secondary DNSserver if the Primary Fails to respond.


--
I hope that the information above s you

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
MCSA
Systems Administrator

"ditulab" <ditulab@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause the
> computer to search through each domain I supply. here is my problem. I
> have a
> computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and each
> dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
> stand-alone site.
> I configured the computer with the connection to both sites with both dns
> servers, one as primary (preferred) and one as secondary (alternate) oin
> TCIP
> properities. Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns
> suffxes"
> so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection to
> site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
> second
> dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
> wrong
> about how this should work?



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Vieux 31/08/2006, 14h46   #3
Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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ditulab wrote:
> If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will
> cause the computer to search through each domain I supply. here is my
> problem. I have a computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site
> has a dns server and each dns server has no record of the other dns
> server. So each site is a stand-alone site.
> I configured the computer with the connection to both sites with both
> dns servers, one as primary (preferred) and one as secondary
> (alternate) oin TCIP properities. Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the
> "append these dns suffxes" so i can ping by name and it will returne,
> then I drop the connection to site one and try again thinking the
> secondary dns will respond and the second dns suffixe will be
> searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i wrong about how
> this should work?

Yes.

A common misconception is that if you configure it with two DNS servers,
each capable of only resolving a certain set of domains, that if the client
cannot find a domain in one DNS server, it will automatically search the
other DNS server for the domain, WRONG!

The client will use the first DNS server that responds and "stick" to it for
a period of time, or until you reset the DNS Client.
You will have to configure DNS servers that are capable of resolving all
names. If you have control over the DNS servers, you can configure each DNS
with a secondary zone, Stub zone or Conditional forwarding.


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Vieux 31/08/2006, 14h50   #4
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"Jorge Silva" wrote:

> Hi
>
> > If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause the
> > computer to search through each domain I supply.

>
> - Only if it fails to search in their default dns suffixess, and doesn't
> search for all, it searches according with the order of the dns suffixes
> provided untill it finds the name that you're searching.
> For example if you have a computer named wkst01 in domain1 and another
> computer named wkst01 in domain2, how DNS know which answer would you want?
> (this is one amomg other things, why keeping PCs accross forest with
> different names is important)
>

There is no default dns suffix for the computer connected to both sites.
I was hoping to use the search order and primary/secondary dns to search
both sites.
so if one site is unrecheable the secondary dns would take over. but it dont
seem to be working.

> > I have a
> > computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and each
> > dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
> > stand-alone site.

>
> Stand-Alone Site??? Site is different from domain. what do you mean with
> this?
>

Just that each site is not aware of the other, this is not public dns, all
private. all connections are through VPN's.

> > Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns suffxes"
> > so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection to
> > site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
> > second
> > dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
> > wrong
> > about how this should work?

>
> Your computer only use the 1 DNS server, so the 1 (Preferred) configured DNS
> server must be able to resolve both domains. Your computer will only try to
> use the secondary DNSserver if the Primary Fails to respond.
>
>

Ok, that is what i thought. so i drop the VPN to site 1 expecting the
computer to switch to the secondary dns and search the dns suffixes but that
dont seem to happen.
> --
> I hope that the information above s you
>
> Good Luck
> Jorge Silva
> MCSA
> Systems Administrator
>
> "ditulab" <ditulab@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE2364C7-DC0F-41D9-81B9-F9309409A17D@microsoft.com...
> > If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause the
> > computer to search through each domain I supply. here is my problem. I
> > have a
> > computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and each
> > dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
> > stand-alone site.
> > I configured the computer with the connection to both sites with both dns
> > servers, one as primary (preferred) and one as secondary (alternate) oin
> > TCIP
> > properities. Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns
> > suffxes"
> > so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection to
> > site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
> > second
> > dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
> > wrong
> > about how this should work?

>
>
>

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Vieux 31/08/2006, 15h16   #5
Jorge Silva
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When I say Fails, I mean No response at all, example the DNS is disconnected
from network.

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I hope that the information above s you

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
MCSA
Systems Administrator

"ditulab" <ditulab@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jorge Silva" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> > If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause
>> > the
>> > computer to search through each domain I supply.

>>
>> - Only if it fails to search in their default dns suffixess, and doesn't
>> search for all, it searches according with the order of the dns suffixes
>> provided untill it finds the name that you're searching.
>> For example if you have a computer named wkst01 in domain1 and another
>> computer named wkst01 in domain2, how DNS know which answer would you
>> want?
>> (this is one amomg other things, why keeping PCs accross forest with
>> different names is important)
>>

> There is no default dns suffix for the computer connected to both sites.
> I was hoping to use the search order and primary/secondary dns to search
> both sites.
> so if one site is unrecheable the secondary dns would take over. but it
> dont
> seem to be working.
>
>> > I have a
>> > computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and
>> > each
>> > dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
>> > stand-alone site.

>>
>> Stand-Alone Site??? Site is different from domain. what do you mean with
>> this?
>>

> Just that each site is not aware of the other, this is not public dns, all
> private. all connections are through VPN's.
>
>> > Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns suffxes"
>> > so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection
>> > to
>> > site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
>> > second
>> > dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
>> > wrong
>> > about how this should work?

>>
>> Your computer only use the 1 DNS server, so the 1 (Preferred) configured
>> DNS
>> server must be able to resolve both domains. Your computer will only try
>> to
>> use the secondary DNSserver if the Primary Fails to respond.
>>
>>

> Ok, that is what i thought. so i drop the VPN to site 1 expecting the
> computer to switch to the secondary dns and search the dns suffixes but
> that
> dont seem to happen.
>> --
>> I hope that the information above s you
>>
>> Good Luck
>> Jorge Silva
>> MCSA
>> Systems Administrator
>>
>> "ditulab" <ditulab@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AE2364C7-DC0F-41D9-81B9-F9309409A17D@microsoft.com...
>> > If i understand it right putting more than one dns suffixes will cause
>> > the
>> > computer to search through each domain I supply. here is my problem. I
>> > have a
>> > computer with a connection to 2 sites, each site has a dns server and
>> > each
>> > dns server has no record of the other dns server. So each site is a
>> > stand-alone site.
>> > I configured the computer with the connection to both sites with both
>> > dns
>> > servers, one as primary (preferred) and one as secondary (alternate)
>> > oin
>> > TCIP
>> > properities. Then I put in 2 dns suffixes in the "append these dns
>> > suffxes"
>> > so i can ping by name and it will returne, then I drop the connection
>> > to
>> > site one and try again thinking the secondary dns will respond and the
>> > second
>> > dns suffixe will be searched. That dont happen, it just times out. Am i
>> > wrong
>> > about how this should work?

>>
>>
>>



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