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Vieux 01/07/2008, 18h45   #1
graylensman
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Here's an example of a typical page on my company's website:

http://www.hillphoenix.com/web_redes...alesIndex.html

The two main columns are created via CSS. The rows of six items are created in
the right-hand column using a table.

I've been reading some things online, and am in need of clarification. Should
I use only CSS for page layout? Is it practical to create this page using only
CSS? Is it still okay to use tables in an instance like this?

Please enlighten me! thanks in advance!

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Vieux 01/07/2008, 19h04   #2
Murray *ACE*
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There ain't no *should* here. Use tables if you want. Zealots will tell
you that tables must only be used for tabular data, and technically, they
are correct. But there are no police who ticket you for table use.

If that's how you build pages, then that's how you build pages!

Be aware, however, that tables are not great for accessability - people who
must use screen assistive devices can often be confused by your tables,
because their content is read left to right, top to bottom. Often, with
tables, that is not the way the content is arranged....

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"graylensman" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Here's an example of a typical page on my company's website:
>
> http://www.hillphoenix.com/web_redes...alesIndex.html
>
> The two main columns are created via CSS. The rows of six items are
> created in
> the right-hand column using a table.
>
> I've been reading some things online, and am in need of clarification.
> Should
> I use only CSS for page layout? Is it practical to create this page using
> only
> CSS? Is it still okay to use tables in an instance like this?
>
> Please enlighten me! thanks in advance!
>


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Vieux 01/07/2008, 21h12   #3
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Well framed Murray!

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"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> There ain't no *should* here. Use tables if you want. Zealots will tell
> you that tables must only be used for tabular data, and technically, they
> are correct. But there are no police who ticket you for table use.
>
> If that's how you build pages, then that's how you build pages!
>
> Be aware, however, that tables are not great for accessability - people
> who must use screen assistive devices can often be confused by your
> tables, because their content is read left to right, top to bottom.
> Often, with tables, that is not the way the content is arranged....
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Adobe Community Expert
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> ==================
>
>
> "graylensman" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
> news:g4dqf9$571$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> Here's an example of a typical page on my company's website:
>>
>> http://www.hillphoenix.com/web_redes...alesIndex.html
>>
>> The two main columns are created via CSS. The rows of six items are
>> created in
>> the right-hand column using a table.
>>
>> I've been reading some things online, and am in need of clarification.
>> Should
>> I use only CSS for page layout? Is it practical to create this page using
>> only
>> CSS? Is it still okay to use tables in an instance like this?
>>
>> Please enlighten me! thanks in advance!
>>

>



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Vieux 01/07/2008, 21h30   #4
P@tty Ayers ~ACE
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So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D

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Vieux 01/07/2008, 21h34   #5
Murray *ACE*
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Oooo - congratulations!

Do you have a bridal registry somewhere?

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"P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>
> --
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> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
> --
>
>> Teddy Kindler
>>
>> =====================
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>> Write me for your membership kit.

>
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Vieux 01/07/2008, 22h31   #6
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I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!

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"P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>
> --
> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
> --
>
>> Teddy Kindler
>>
>> =====================
>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>> Write me for your membership kit.

>
>



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Vieux 01/07/2008, 22h31   #7
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He might. I would have a groom registry.

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"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Oooo - congratulations!
>
> Do you have a bridal registry somewhere?
>
> --
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> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>
>> --
>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>> --
>>
>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>> Write me for your membership kit.

>>
>>

>



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Vieux 01/07/2008, 22h59   #8
P@tty Ayers ~ACE
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I see - that's understandable.

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"BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
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> I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!
>
> --
> Teddy Kindler
>
> =====================
> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
> Write me for your membership kit.
>
>
> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>
>> --
>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>> --
>>
>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>> Write me for your membership kit.

>>
>>

>
>


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Vieux 01/07/2008, 23h02   #9
Murray *ACE*
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To whom?

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"P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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>I see - that's understandable.
>
> --
> P@tty Summers
> --
>
>
>
> "BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e7na$jdd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!
>>
>> --
>> Teddy Kindler
>>
>> =====================
>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>
>>
>> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in
>> message news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>>> --
>>>
>>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>


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Vieux 01/07/2008, 23h11   #10
P@tty Ayers ~ACE
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To people from other planets, obviously.

P@tty Senior




"Murray *ACE*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> To whom?
>
> --
> Murray Dell --- ICQ 71997575
> Adobe Community Expert
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> ==================
>
>
> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e9c6$l22$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>I see - that's understandable.
>>
>> --
>> P@tty Summers
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
>> news:g4e7na$jdd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>
>>>
>>> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in
>>> message news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>>>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>>>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>>>
>>>>> =====================
>>>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>


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Vieux 02/07/2008, 02h12   #11
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Aren't we all part of the Summers family too :-).

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"P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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>I see - that's understandable.
>
> --
> P@tty Summers
> --
>
>
>
> "BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e7na$jdd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!
>>
>> --
>> Teddy Kindler
>>
>> =====================
>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>
>>
>> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in
>> message news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>>> --
>>>
>>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>



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Vieux 02/07/2008, 02h13   #12
Murray *ACE*
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Shhh....

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"BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
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> Aren't we all part of the Summers family too :-).
>
> --
> Teddy Summers
>
> =====================
> President of the official Murray Summers fan club.
> Write me for your membership kit.
>
>
> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:g4e9c6$l22$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>I see - that's understandable.
>>
>> --
>> P@tty Summers
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "BigHead" <teddy@JUSTNOSPAMbigheadis.com> wrote in message
>> news:g4e7na$jdd$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>> I'm such a fan, I took his last name, but only in newsgroups!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>
>>>
>>> "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE@ayersvirtualREMOVE.com> wrote in
>>> message news:g4e44o$fe5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>>>> So Teddy, did you, like, marry Kindler? :-D
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
>>>> Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
>>>> Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>> Teddy Kindler
>>>>>
>>>>> =====================
>>>>> President of the official Kindler Chase fan club.
>>>>> Write me for your membership kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


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