I need to make a site with an area of text that scrolls in its box when you
hover your curser over an 'up' or 'down' image.

I think i need to do this with javascript but it might be java. This is
probably too complex for someone to post an entire tutorial here, but could
someone provide me with a link to one? Ive been searching for a while without
finding anything but im sure there are tutorials out there one this.
thanks
james

..oO(jameswoody)

>I need to make a site with an area of text that scrolls in its box when you
>hover your curser over an 'up' or 'down' image.

Bad idea.

> I think i need to do this with javascript but it might be java. This is
>probably too complex for someone to post an entire tutorial here, but could
>someone provide me with a link to one? Ive been searching for a while without
>finding anything but im sure there are tutorials out there one this.

The most important question is why you want that. Are you aware of all
the usability and accessibility problems that this will cause?

Micha

Its a portfolio site for a friend of mine, and its not expecting a lot of
traffic. Accessibility is not an issue. So long as it looks ok on a normal
computer thats fine, unless there is another way of doing it?

Its a portfolio site for a friend of mine, and its not expecting a lot of
traffic. Accessibility is not an issue. So long as it looks ok on a normal
computer thats fine, unless there is another way of doing it?

Have a look at Project VII's Vertical Scroller.
http://www.projectseven.com/products...ller/index.htm


--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com


"jameswoody" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I need to make a site with an area of text that scrolls in its box when
you
> hover your curser over an 'up' or 'down' image.
>
> I think i need to do this with javascript but it might be java. This is
> probably too complex for someone to post an entire tutorial here, but
could
> someone provide me with a link to one? Ive been searching for a while
without
> finding anything but im sure there are tutorials out there one this.
> thanks
> james
>

Very cool but I dont want to spend 60 USD just for this site. I will consider
it if I need to do more sites like this.

In the mean time, exactly how bad is the method I already talked about? I dont
know anyone who uses a screen reader, etc or looks at sites regularly on a
mobile device. Are these the only people I would be affecting?

Also bad for people with older browsers or who have JavaScript disabled for
security reasons. The beauty of Project VII's script is that it degrades
well in older browsers and if Jscript happens to be off, the entire panel is
revealed; not hidden. $60 may seem pricey for just one site. But their
products and customer support are well-worth it to me when I need to get the
job done quickly.

--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com


"jameswoody" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Very cool but I dont want to spend 60 USD just for this site. I will
consider
> it if I need to do more sites like this.
>
> In the mean time, exactly how bad is the method I already talked about? I
dont
> know anyone who uses a screen reader, etc or looks at sites regularly on a
> mobile device. Are these the only people I would be affecting?
>

Thanks Nancy,
Are their any other similar resources out there you would recommend??Never know when stuff like this will come in handy.
James

..oO(jameswoody)

>Very cool but I dont want to spend 60 USD just for this site. I will consider
>it if I need to do more sites like this.
>
> In the mean time, exactly how bad is the method I already talked about?

Affecting a site's accessibility is _always_ a bad thing. The function
should be more important than the design, especially on a portfolio. Why
not just let the entire page scroll? This is what users expect and how
billions of websites work. There's still enough room for nice designs.

>I dont
>know anyone who uses a screen reader, etc or looks at sites regularly on a
>mobile device. Are these the only people I would be affecting?

No. Besides those it will affect every user

* who don't use JavaScript (yes, there are some)

* who don't recognize your own scroll widgets: Most users in the WWW
are rather inexperienced and only familiar with their own system's
GUI controls. Using non-standard controls may just confuse them.

Even worse is the non-standard use of such controls, like scroll
buttons triggered without a click.

* who just want to conveniently surf the web: Using non-standard GUI
controls usually breaks the default browser behaviours.

Such scrolling boxes might even affect the site's look. The worst I've
seen so far were three(!) scrollbars side by side. For a scrolling box
you have to define a height, but you'll never know how big the browser
window will be. If the height of your box is too small, the user has to
scroll endlessly, if it's too high, it will cause multiple scrollbars.

So in short: Scrolling boxes don't do any good except for some very rare
cases. Even worse are non-standard GUI controls. You should really think
twice before using such things. Accessibility is _always_ an issue.

YMMV.

Micha

My web site lists a few DW extension developers
http://alt-web.com/tools.shtml

Scripts
www.dynamicdrive.com



--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com

"jameswoody" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Nancy,
> Are their any other similar resources out there you would recommend??Never
know when stuff like this will come in handy.
> James

thats sit i was searching for such tutorials.cherrs !