My new project has quite a large menu system. To avoid amending all the pages,
I wish to put it in a library, so that it would update globally. So far, I
have not been that successful. I am unable to click on all the PMM elements in
the Design view, so end up with only part of the menu in the lbi file. Where
could I look up the procedure, please? Or, is there a way I could update all
the menus throughout the website, without a Library file?

I would not recommend that you do this. Instead of a Library, use a
server-side include approach. It's MUCH more productive and efficient,
since with Library items, one change to the menu, and you would affect every
page that contains it in the local site, all of which must then be uploaded.
With an include, you only affect the include file itself, which, when
uploaded, is automatically included in each containing file.

> Where
> could I look up the procedure, please?

You would have to do it manually, I think. In the include file (or the
Library item), place all of the HTML associated with the menu. In each
parent page, place all of the javascript associated with the menu. When you
merge the two, you will have a complete, working menu. You may find a
tutorial for this on the PVII site....

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> My new project has quite a large menu system. To avoid amending all the
> pages,
> I wish to put it in a library, so that it would update globally. So far,
> I
> have not been that successful. I am unable to click on all the PMM
> elements in
> the Design view, so end up with only part of the menu in the lbi file.
> Where
> could I look up the procedure, please? Or, is there a way I could update
> all
> the menus throughout the website, without a Library file?
>
>

As Murray said, Library items are not as efficient as Includes, but if you
have no other choice, PMM works as a Library item if necessary. Have a look
at this movie:
http://www.projectseven.com/products...unscripted.htm



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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> My new project has quite a large menu system. To avoid amending all the
> pages,
> I wish to put it in a library, so that it would update globally. So far,
> I
> have not been that successful. I am unable to click on all the PMM
> elements in
> the Design view, so end up with only part of the menu in the lbi file.
> Where
> could I look up the procedure, please? Or, is there a way I could update
> all
> the menus throughout the website, without a Library file?
>
>

Thanks... Had a look at the video. Does not seem to be all that complicated.. :-) will give it a try.

The PVII Team: Like the video, but rather difficult to remember all the steps. Is there something more prosaic, maybe a written instruction of how to do it?

PVII has a support forum where you could ask such questions. The Library
process is not so complex, however. You should go through the video for
understanding, and then just repeat the operations from memory! 8)

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> The PVII Team: Like the video, but rather difficult to remember all the
> steps. Is there something more prosaic, maybe a written instruction of
> how to do it?

Hve been to P7 site, but could not find any info, so sent an email. Also a question on how to move the horizontal menu further down the page

regards
KH

Will this ?

http://www.projectseven.com/support/answers.asp?id=143


Karlhevera wrote:
> Hve been to P7 site, but could not find any info, so sent an email.
> Also a question on how to move the horizontal menu further down the
> page
>
> regards
> KH

MD: thanks. will have a look. However, I looked at their support, but could not find anything regarding how to move the menu further down the page. Any ideas, please\/

This would have nothing to do with their menu, and everything to do with
your page's layout. If you want it lower on the page, build the page so
that the space for the menu is lower.

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> MD: thanks. will have a look. However, I looked at their support, but
> could not find anything regarding how to move the menu further down the
> page. Any ideas, please\/

Mad Dog: Have seen the article and is better than the video, which I found
rather difficult to keep up with... would have been a good idea, if I could
pause the video, write down the steps and resume the video...would have saved
lot of time...

well, I have managed to follow the video. I followed all the steps and saved an
existing menu to the library. when viewed in the edit library item option, all
the elements are there, together with all the sub-menu items. BUT when I drag
the menu item from the library to a new page, I have a problem:
Although all the menu elements could be seen in the 'Code' view, they do not
work when I preview in a browser. Only the main items of the horizontal menu
show... Any remedy, please/
#

Can you please post these issues on the PVII support forum?

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> well, I have managed to follow the video. I followed all the steps and
> saved an
> existing menu to the library. when viewed in the edit library item
> option, all
> the elements are there, together with all the sub-menu items. BUT when I
> drag
> the menu item from the library to a new page, I have a problem:
> Although all the menu elements could be seen in the 'Code' view, they do
> not
> work when I preview in a browser. Only the main items of the horizontal
> menu
> show... Any remedy, please/
> #
>

I have posted my question at P7... I have tried all sorts of approaches. When
I save the already existing menu to a library file, the COMPLETE menu code
shows in the edit mode. When I drag the library item to a new page, the
COMPLETE menu shows, with all the sub-menus. when I click on the PM icon at
top right and click 'Ok' to the missing data file, the pane shows ONLY the main
items. If I select the menu type and style, the code DISAPPEARS. Browser view
shows ONLY the main menu items. Code view shows ONLY the main items, not the
whole menu, as I said earlier.
Little bit sceptical about getting any response from P7, where I have posted
questions before, but NEVER got a reply...
Karl H

I would say that their support is the best in the business. I have just
searched the DW forum there at PVII and have not found any posts by you
under the name "Karlhevera".

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>I have posted my question at P7... I have tried all sorts of approaches.
>When
> I save the already existing menu to a library file, the COMPLETE menu code
> shows in the edit mode. When I drag the library item to a new page, the
> COMPLETE menu shows, with all the sub-menus. when I click on the PM icon
> at
> top right and click 'Ok' to the missing data file, the pane shows ONLY the
> main
> items. If I select the menu type and style, the code DISAPPEARS. Browser
> view
> shows ONLY the main menu items. Code view shows ONLY the main items, not
> the
> whole menu, as I said earlier.
> Little bit sceptical about getting any response from P7, where I have
> posted
> questions before, but NEVER got a reply...
> Karl H
>
>

"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>I have posted my question at P7... I have tried all sorts of approaches.
>When
> I save the already existing menu to a library file, the COMPLETE menu code
> shows in the edit mode. When I drag the library item to a new page, the
> COMPLETE menu shows, with all the sub-menus. when I click on the PM icon
> at
> top right and click 'Ok' to the missing data file, the pane shows ONLY the
> main
> items. If I select the menu type and style, the code DISAPPEARS. Browser
> view
> shows ONLY the main menu items. Code view shows ONLY the main items, not
> the
> whole menu, as I said earlier.
> Little bit sceptical about getting any response from P7, where I have
> posted
> questions before, but NEVER got a reply...

You've gotten a reply to every question you've asked and every email you've
sent, including the one you sent today, which was answered by Gerry Jacobsen
of PVII and is copied below:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Jacobsen -PVII" <admin@projectseven.com>
To: "FRANK HEVERA" <hevera@btinternet.com>
Cc: "~support" <support@projectseven.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pop Menu as Library file


> Hi Frank,
>
> Let's have a look at the actual page with the library item menu on it so
> we
> can diagnose the issue accurately, can you provide a link please?
>
> Regards,
> Gerry Jacobsen
> http://www.projectseven.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dreamweaver Extensions - Menu Systems - Tools - Templates
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "FRANK HEVERA" <hevera@btinternet.com>
> To: <support@projectseven.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:20 PM
> Subject: Pop Menu as Library file
>
>
>>I have followed the instruction on your video on how to create a library
>>file for my already existing Pop Magic Menu. I have saved the file code
>>in
>>a library file. When I look at the code in this file, all the main items
>>are there, together with all submenu items.
>> However, when I drag the library file into a new file, the complete
>> menu
>> shows with all the items. When I click the Menu modification icon and
>> press OK to the non-availability of code, the pane shows ONLY the main
>> items. The submenu items VANISH.... The code disappears and therefore
>> the
>> view in a browser shows ONLY the main items... What is the solution to
>> eliminate this problem, please?
>> regards
>> Karl Hevera
>>
>>
>

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I'd second the Server side include route. If you've never done it test this
route anyway you can use it for lot of areas that are likely to need updating
across the whole site, menus, headers footers.

My scenario is this. I have a service provider that supports .asp. I change
all pages from .html to .asp.
I add my P7 menu to the template where I want it to go get it working nicely
amending CSS to suit. All the links to scripts and CSS are now in place on my
template.

Cut the code for the menu out.
I make a page and paste the P7 menu code in (no doc type, html etc, just the
code for the divs and links).
Save the page as menu.asp in a folder named includes.

Now in you master page or template add a SSI from the common menu, link to the
file.

Bingo, job done.

Couple of issues:
1. You can't view locally. You need to view live internet connection or
windows server for testing. Though Safari renders the page without includes.
2. When you amend the links in menu.asp dremweaver adds the links to css and
script with default triggers.

Give it a go.
Hope I've not missed out anything I'm sure someone can fill in the gaps if I
have.

Cheers,
Rich

> Couple of issues:
> 1. You can't view locally. You need to view live internet connection or
> windows server for testing. Though Safari renders the page without
> includes.

Incorrect. Enable Preview in Browser > Use temp files for preview, and you
will see them.

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"RICH POW" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I'd second the Server side include route. If you've never done it test
> this
> route anyway you can use it for lot of areas that are likely to need
> updating
> across the whole site, menus, headers footers.
>
> My scenario is this. I have a service provider that supports .asp. I
> change
> all pages from .html to .asp.
> I add my P7 menu to the template where I want it to go get it working
> nicely
> amending CSS to suit. All the links to scripts and CSS are now in place on
> my
> template.
>
> Cut the code for the menu out.
> I make a page and paste the P7 menu code in (no doc type, html etc, just
> the
> code for the divs and links).
> Save the page as menu.asp in a folder named includes.
>
> Now in you master page or template add a SSI from the common menu, link to
> the
> file.
>
> Bingo, job done.
>
> Couple of issues:
> 1. You can't view locally. You need to view live internet connection or
> windows server for testing. Though Safari renders the page without
> includes.
> 2. When you amend the links in menu.asp dremweaver adds the links to css
> and
> script with default triggers.
>
> Give it a go.
> Hope I've not missed out anything I'm sure someone can fill in the gaps if
> I
> have.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
>
>
>

I think viewing with a temp file should allow you to see your includes in a
browser. We also have a PMM-specific tutorial in the online user guide for
the original poster - if he decides to switch.

http://www.projectseven.com/products...s/overview.htm

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"RICH POW" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I'd second the Server side include route. If you've never done it test
> this
> route anyway you can use it for lot of areas that are likely to need
> updating
> across the whole site, menus, headers footers.

I believe this is the tutorial I pointed OP to in the first place. I used it
recently and the system works like a charm.

MD


The PVII Team wrote:
> I think viewing with a temp file should allow you to see your
> includes in a browser. We also have a PMM-specific tutorial in the
> online user guide for the original poster - if he decides to switch.
>
> http://www.projectseven.com/products...s/overview.htm
>
>
> "RICH POW" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
> news:fuqvdn$8t6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>> I'd second the Server side include route. If you've never done it
>> test this
>> route anyway you can use it for lot of areas that are likely to need
>> updating
>> across the whole site, menus, headers footers.

Just as a note, in case the OP is having email problems, it's been more than
8 hours since your email was replied to, with a request for additional info,
and we've yet to hear back.

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As there were many changes, I rewrote the menu. Created the library item, as
described in the video. It works OK. So much so that a completely formatted
menu is installed after dragging it across...
Oh, btw: P7, as usual, did not reply to my query...

Uh, Karl, not only did PVII reply to your query, but I posted a transcript
of the reply here in this forum. I know you use the webforum, which makes
following threads difficult, but the post is here.

Enough said.


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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> As there were many changes, I rewrote the menu. Created the library item,
> as
> described in the video. It works OK. So much so that a completely
> formatted
> menu is installed after dragging it across...
> Oh, btw: P7, as usual, did not reply to my query...
>

Well, as I said earlier on, I used the software and it worked fine. When I
inserted the library menu into a page, it was completely styled and in proper
postion. However, editing an item is NOT in line with the p& video... I could
only edit item in a single menu. To achieve a global replace/change, I had to
edit the menu through the Library item Edit option and whne done, updated all
the pages .. Not quite sure how it works when I want to add an item...
experiment, I guess? Any hints?

I really wish you would answer our support emails or post on our newsgroup,
but here is the bottom line:

The little video actually goes through the steps of both converting PMM to a
library item AND modifying the menu AND updating the library item AND it
works.

Perhaps you missed one or more steps.

The Video:
http://www.projectseven.com/products...unscripted.htm

If you continue to have problems, please use our direct support channels. We
have one support mail to you that is outstanding and remains unanswered.

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"Karlhevera" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Well, as I said earlier on, I used the software and it worked fine. When
> I
> inserted the library menu into a page, it was completely styled and in
> proper
> postion. However, editing an item is NOT in line with the p& video... I
> could
> only edit item in a single menu. To achieve a global replace/change, I
> had to
> edit the menu through the Library item Edit option and whne done, updated
> all
> the pages .. Not quite sure how it works when I want to add an item...
> experiment, I guess? Any hints?
>