before i can log a bug i need to work out what's going on. is there a
system log i can check for a system freeze? i've never had such a
harsh crash before.

when i'm playing videos my computer locks up and goes blank. X crashed
to a commandline once so i thought it may be my xorg, dpkg-reconfigure
xorg-xserver to a basic conf did nothing.

i thought it was the new 8.6 ati driver but it does the same with 8.4.

i thought it was the debian-multimedia packages because the thumbnails
of everything possible to thumbnail went green after a
gstreamer-ffmpeg update. removing all deb-multi packages and going
back back to official ed the thumbnails but didn't playback
crashes.

i've used totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, vlc, mplayer all were able to
play sometimes but most were either green or audio only.

totem-xine was probably the best at playing correctly but since i've
been playing around it crashes on almost every video and i'm not sure
which log i can check for errors.

i've been trying to work out why this is happening but i never had to
bother with playing multimedia before so i'm a bit lost.

at worst i'll just reinstall a fresh system as my data and home are
all on seperate partitions. i just wanted to see if anyone has any
ideas before giving up.


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On 07/08/08 17:57, stabbyjones wrote:
> before i can log a bug i need to work out what's going on. is there a
> system log i can check for a system freeze? i've never had such a
> harsh crash before.
>
> when i'm playing videos my computer locks up and goes blank. X crashed
> to a commandline once so i thought it may be my xorg, dpkg-reconfigure
> xorg-xserver to a basic conf did nothing.
>
> i thought it was the new 8.6 ati driver but it does the same with 8.4.
>
> i thought it was the debian-multimedia packages because the thumbnails
> of everything possible to thumbnail went green after a
> gstreamer-ffmpeg update. removing all deb-multi packages and going
> back back to official ed the thumbnails but didn't playback
> crashes.
>
> i've used totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, vlc, mplayer all were able to
> play sometimes but most were either green or audio only.
>
> totem-xine was probably the best at playing correctly but since i've
> been playing around it crashes on almost every video and i'm not sure
> which log i can check for errors.
>
> i've been trying to work out why this is happening but i never had to
> bother with playing multimedia before so i'm a bit lost.
>
> at worst i'll just reinstall a fresh system as my data and home are
> all on seperate partitions. i just wanted to see if anyone has any
> ideas before giving up.

Freezes are very hard to debug. Try /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

ITMT, try the vesa driver, or get a real video card.

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Jefferson LA USA

"Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New
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thanks, i'll give the log a look when i get home and see what i can find.
the vesa driver was one thing i forgot so i'll look into that was well.

this was my first ATI card and it's worked quite well for the 6 months
since i bought it. this last week has been the first major issue i've
had.

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
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> On 07/08/08 17:57, stabbyjones wrote:
>> before i can log a bug i need to work out what's going on. is there a
>> system log i can check for a system freeze? i've never had such a
>> harsh crash before.
>>
>> when i'm playing videos my computer locks up and goes blank. X crashed
>> to a commandline once so i thought it may be my xorg, dpkg-reconfigure
>> xorg-xserver to a basic conf did nothing.
>>
>> i thought it was the new 8.6 ati driver but it does the same with 8.4.
>>
>> i thought it was the debian-multimedia packages because the thumbnails
>> of everything possible to thumbnail went green after a
>> gstreamer-ffmpeg update. removing all deb-multi packages and going
>> back back to official ed the thumbnails but didn't playback
>> crashes.
>>
>> i've used totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, vlc, mplayer all were able to
>> play sometimes but most were either green or audio only.
>>
>> totem-xine was probably the best at playing correctly but since i've
>> been playing around it crashes on almost every video and i'm not sure
>> which log i can check for errors.
>>
>> i've been trying to work out why this is happening but i never had to
>> bother with playing multimedia before so i'm a bit lost.
>>
>> at worst i'll just reinstall a fresh system as my data and home are
>> all on seperate partitions. i just wanted to see if anyone has any
>> ideas before giving up.
>
> Freezes are very hard to debug. Try /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
>
> ITMT, try the vesa driver, or get a real video card.
>
> - --
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> Jefferson LA USA
>
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stabbyjones wrote:
> before i can log a bug i need to work out what's going on. is there a
> system log i can check for a system freeze? i've never had such a
> harsh crash before.
>
> when i'm playing videos my computer locks up and goes blank. X crashed
> to a commandline once so i thought it may be my xorg, dpkg-reconfigure
> xorg-xserver to a basic conf did nothing.
>
> i thought it was the new 8.6 ati driver but it does the same with 8.4.
>
> i thought it was the debian-multimedia packages because the thumbnails
> of everything possible to thumbnail went green after a
> gstreamer-ffmpeg update. removing all deb-multi packages and going
> back back to official ed the thumbnails but didn't playback
> crashes.
>
> i've used totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, vlc, mplayer all were able to
> play sometimes but most were either green or audio only.
>
> totem-xine was probably the best at playing correctly but since i've
> been playing around it crashes on almost every video and i'm not sure
> which log i can check for errors.
>
> i've been trying to work out why this is happening but i never had to
> bother with playing multimedia before so i'm a bit lost.
>
> at worst i'll just reinstall a fresh system as my data and home are
> all on seperate partitions. i just wanted to see if anyone has any
> ideas before giving up.
>
>

What changes were made before the freezes occurred?
Like, I get freezes with Debian's 2.6.25
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482074) but not when I
compile the 2.6.25.9 kernel myself.

Hugo


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2008/7/10 Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>:
> stabbyjones wrote:
>>
>> before i can log a bug i need to work out what's going on. is there a
>> system log i can check for a system freeze? i've never had such a
>> harsh crash before.
>>
>> when i'm playing videos my computer locks up and goes blank. X crashed
>> to a commandline once so i thought it may be my xorg, dpkg-reconfigure
>> xorg-xserver to a basic conf did nothing.
>>
>> i thought it was the new 8.6 ati driver but it does the same with 8.4.
>>
>> i thought it was the debian-multimedia packages because the thumbnails
>> of everything possible to thumbnail went green after a
>> gstreamer-ffmpeg update. removing all deb-multi packages and going
>> back back to official ed the thumbnails but didn't playback
>> crashes.
>>
>> i've used totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, vlc, mplayer all were able to
>> play sometimes but most were either green or audio only.
>>
>> totem-xine was probably the best at playing correctly but since i've
>> been playing around it crashes on almost every video and i'm not sure
>> which log i can check for errors.
>>
>> i've been trying to work out why this is happening but i never had to
>> bother with playing multimedia before so i'm a bit lost.
>>
>> at worst i'll just reinstall a fresh system as my data and home are
>> all on seperate partitions. i just wanted to see if anyone has any
>> ideas before giving up.
>>
>>
>
> What changes were made before the freezes occurred?
> Like, I get freezes with Debian's 2.6.25
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482074) but not when I
> compile the 2.6.25.9 kernel myself.
>
> Hugo
>
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i've been running 2.6.24 the whole time so it's probably not related.
i think i'd given it a lot of clutter over the past week. there were
driver xorg and codec updates which were all possible breaks.

i think i worked the freezes down to x looking for an incomplete ati
driver and crashing on vx playback. while cleaning up deb-multimedia
packages that may have also been causing issues.

checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old pointed me to the
display driver working incorrectly.


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