Hi

How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their mails.


Tero Mäntyvaara


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On 05/25/08 16:17, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
> Hi
>
> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
> user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their mails.

We have a cron job for each user that runs every N minutes.
Automatically passes the email to Postfix which runs it thru
SpamAssassin and then to maildrop and the user's Maildir.

Icedove then uses IMAP to see the pre-filtered emails.

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Hi,

Tero Mäntyvaara <termant@gmail.com> writes:
> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
> user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their
> mails.

Instead of setting up a cron job for every user as suggested by Ron, you
could also setup a system-wide fetchmail for all users via
/etc/fetchmailrc. There is already a init script provided by Debian,
but you have to enable it in /etc/default/fetchmail.

Regards,
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:17:07AM +0300, Tero M?ntyvaara wrote:

> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
> user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their mails.

Fetchmail was designed for single-user use.
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Tero M?ntyvaara wrote:
> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?

I created a user named "mailagent". A cron job runs fetchmail as that user
every five minutes. The mailagent user's .forward file runs the mailagent
program which forwards each user's mail. You could use procmail rather
than mailagent, of course.

Carl Fink writes:
> Fetchmail was designed for single-user use.

Read the section in the manual about multidrop.
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:17:07AM +0300, Tero M?ntyvaara wrote:
> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
> user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their mails.

Well, you have to enable the fetchmail system-wide daemon in
/etc/default/fetchmail

Then you have to edit the /etc/fetchmailrc

Mine has:

poll pop.porchlight.ca with protocol pop3
user 'dtutty' there with password 'XXXXX' is 'dtutty' here


For additional external email addresses (assuming each local user has
their own), you just add more user lines.

I'm on dialup and find that fetchmail doesn't try-restart or other magic
correctly, so I altered /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/fetchmail to just
/etc/init.d/fetchmail restart

If you are on the internet long-term, some have reported that fetchmail
forgets to wake up. In that case, you could have a cron job that
restarts fetchmail every hour or so (depending on how long it takes to
go into a coma).

Good luck.

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On 05/25/08 16:57, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Tero Mäntyvaara <termant@gmail.com> writes:
>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user? Every
>> user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get their
>> mails.
>
> Instead of setting up a cron job for every user as suggested by Ron, you
> could also setup a system-wide fetchmail for all users via
> /etc/fetchmailrc. There is already a init script provided by Debian,
> but you have to enable it in /etc/default/fetchmail.

That's not very granular. With one job per user, each person can
decide if and how frequently to check email.

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Hi Tero,


> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
> their mails.


Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line in
each user's .fetchmailrc:

set daemon nnn

where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine set at
900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon down.

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Hi!

I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
/etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the solutions
that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn" in
..fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(

What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/fetchmailrc then?


Tero Mäntyvaara

Patricia Fraser wrote:
> Hi Tero,
>
>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
>> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
>> their mails.
>
> Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line in
> each user's .fetchmailrc:
>
> set daemon nnn
>
> where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine set at
> 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon down.
>
> Cheers,
>


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In my /etc/default/fetchmail file i have simply changed the variable
to "SET_DAEMON=yes"

This gives a default value of 600 seconds i believe. Should you be happy
with this you would not not need to set a daemon value.

However, if you wish to set daemon to a different value, in the
/etc/fetchmailr you can add 'set daemon 300' or to however frequently you need it to poll the server.

I use exactly this method and it works perfectly.

HTH, jamie
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:42:45PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
> /etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
> function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the solutions
> that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn" in
> .fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(
>
> What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/fetchmailrc then?
>
>
> Tero Mäntyvaara
>
> Patricia Fraser wrote:
>> Hi Tero,
>>
>>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
>>> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
>>> their mails.
>>
>> Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line in
>> each user's .fetchmailrc:
>>
>> set daemon nnn
>>
>> where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine set at
>> 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon down.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>
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So if I put "SET_DAEMON=yes" to /etc/default/fetchmail and other needed
parameters to .fetchmailrc then daemon should start for every user that
has .fetchmailrc file?


Tero Mäntyvaara

Jamie Griffin wrote:
> In my /etc/default/fetchmail file i have simply changed the variable
> to "SET_DAEMON=yes"
>
> This gives a default value of 600 seconds i believe. Should you be happy
> with this you would not not need to set a daemon value.
>
> However, if you wish to set daemon to a different value, in the
> /etc/fetchmailr you can add 'set daemon 300' or to however frequently you need it to poll the server.
>
> I use exactly this method and it works perfectly.
>
> HTH, jamie
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:42:45PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
>> /etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
>> function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the solutions
>> that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn" in
>> .fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(
>>
>> What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/fetchmailrc then?
>>
>>
>> Tero Mäntyvaara
>>
>> Patricia Fraser wrote:
>>> Hi Tero,
>>>
>>>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
>>>> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
>>>> their mails.
>>> Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line in
>>> each user's .fetchmailrc:
>>>
>>> set daemon nnn
>>>
>>> where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine set at
>>> 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon down.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>
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On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
> /etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
> function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the
> solutions that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn" in
> .fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(
>
> What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and
> /etc/fetchmailrc then?
>
>
> Tero Mäntyvaara
>
> Patricia Fraser wrote:
> > Hi Tero,
> >
> >> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
> >> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
> >> their mails.
> >
> > Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line
> > in each user's .fetchmailrc:
> >
> > set daemon nnn
> >
> > where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine
> > set at 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon
> > down.
> >
> > Cheers,

What happens if you run (as root) /etc/init.d/fetchmail start (or
restart)?

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On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 03:59:55PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
> So if I put "SET_DAEMON=yes" to /etc/default/fetchmail and other needed
> parameters to .fetchmailrc then daemon should start for every user that
> has .fetchmailrc file?
>
>
> Tero Mäntyvaara
>
> Jamie Griffin wrote:
>> In my /etc/default/fetchmail file i have simply changed the variable
>> to "SET_DAEMON=yes"
>>
>> This gives a default value of 600 seconds i believe. Should you be happy
>> with this you would not not need to set a daemon value.
>>
>> However, if you wish to set daemon to a different value, in the
>> /etc/fetchmailr you can add 'set daemon 300' or to however frequently
>> you need it to poll the server.
>>
>> I use exactly this method and it works perfectly.
>>
>> HTH, jamie
>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:42:45PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
>>> /etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
>>> function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the
>>> solutions that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn"
>>> in .fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(
>>>
>>> What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and /etc/fetchmailrc then?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tero Mäntyvaara
>>>
>>> Patricia Fraser wrote:
>>>> Hi Tero,
>>>>
>>>>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
>>>>> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
>>>>> their mails.
>>>> Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line in
>>>> each user's .fetchmailrc:
>>>>
>>>> set daemon nnn
>>>>
>>>> where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine set at
>>>> 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon down.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
As this program is running as root and the configuration file is
system-wide the daemon will run at the specified number of seconds for all
users/accounts written within /etc/fetchmailrc.

If you're not using an LDA, such as procmail, your MTA should then
handle delivery to /var/spool/mail/$USER.

I currently only use this set up for myself as the single user on my
machine.

As Chris suggested, run /etc/init.d/fetchmail start to initiate the
daemon. It will then stop and start automatically on shutdown/boot
respectively. Check the maillogs to troubleshoot; they will confirm
what's happening.

Jamie

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Christopher Judd wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have modified also the files /etc/default/fetchmail and
>> /etc/fetchmailrc but I don't know which parameter affects to which
>> function. Anyway the file .fetchmailrc and user daemon are the
>> solutions that I was looking for. I had put that "set daemon nnn" in
>> .fetchmailrc, but it didn't work. :-(
>>
>> What should I put in files /etc/default/fetchmail and
>> /etc/fetchmailrc then?
>>
>>
>> Tero Mäntyvaara
>>
>> Patricia Fraser wrote:
>>> Hi Tero,
>>>
>>>> How do I set fetchmail to automatically fetch mails of all user?
>>>> Every user have to give command fetchmail -a at the moment to get
>>>> their mails.
>>> Unless you want to use a system-wide fetchmail, you can put a line
>>> in each user's .fetchmailrc:
>>>
>>> set daemon nnn
>>>
>>> where "nnn" is the number of seconds between polls - I have mine
>>> set at 900. They can then use "fetchmail -q" to shut the daemon
>>> down.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>
> What happens if you run (as root) /etc/init.d/fetchmail start (or
> restart)?

It goes like this:

# /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart
Restarting mail retriever agent: fetchmailfetchmail: no mailservers have
been specified.
failed!


Tero Mäntyvaara

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On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:21:25PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
>
> # /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart
> Restarting mail retriever agent: fetchmailfetchmail: no mailservers have
> been specified.
> failed!

Did you run it as root? and have you entered all the required info in
/etc/fetchmailrc?


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Jamie Griffin wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:21:25PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
>> # /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart
>> Restarting mail retriever agent: fetchmailfetchmail: no mailservers have
>> been specified.
>> failed!
>
> Did you run it as root? and have you entered all the required info in
> /etc/fetchmailrc?
>
>
Sorry, that took so long. :-( Had been busy.

* Yes I run '/etc/init.d/fetchmail restart' as root and fetchmail daemon
has been set to run by SysV-init scripts.
* My /etc/fetchmailrc is empty
* /home/[USER_ACCOUNT]/.fetchmailrc has:
set postmaster [USER_ACCOUNT]
set bouncemail
set daemon 300

plus all e-mail account information.


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>>> # /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart
>>> Restarting mail retriever agent: fetchmailfetchmail: no mailservers
>>> have been specified.
>>> failed!
>>
>> Did you run it as root? and have you entered all the required info in
>> /etc/fetchmailrc?
>>
>>
> Sorry, that took so long. :-( Had been busy.
>
> * Yes I run '/etc/init.d/fetchmail restart' as root and fetchmail daemon
> has been set to run by SysV-init scripts.
> * My /etc/fetchmailrc is empty
> * /home/[USER_ACCOUNT]/.fetchmailrc has:
> set postmaster [USER_ACCOUNT]
> set bouncemail
> set daemon 300
>
You should have the server information in /etc/fetchmailrc not
~/.fetchmailrc if you want to run the program as root.

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Jamie Griffin wrote:
>>>> # /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart
>>>> Restarting mail retriever agent: fetchmailfetchmail: no mailservers
>>>> have been specified.
>>>> failed!
>>> Did you run it as root? and have you entered all the required info in
>>> /etc/fetchmailrc?
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry, that took so long. :-( Had been busy.
>>
>> * Yes I run '/etc/init.d/fetchmail restart' as root and fetchmail daemon
>> has been set to run by SysV-init scripts.
>> * My /etc/fetchmailrc is empty
>> * /home/[USER_ACCOUNT]/.fetchmailrc has:
>> set postmaster [USER_ACCOUNT]
>> set bouncemail
>> set daemon 300
>>
> You should have the server information in /etc/fetchmailrc not
> ~/.fetchmailrc if you want to run the program as root.
>
> Jamie
>
>

Isn't it possible to run fetchmail as root and then one process fetches
the mail of all users with of ~/.fetchmail?

If no, is there any script that executes daemon automatically for every
user that has .fetchmailrc?


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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 02:52:07PM +0300, Tero Mäntyvaara wrote:
> Isn't it possible to run fetchmail as root and then one process fetches
> the mail of all users with of ~/.fetchmail?
>
> If no, is there any script that executes daemon automatically for every
> user that has .fetchmailrc?

using individual user ~/.fetchmailrc files is probably a safer and
preferred way to use fetchmail. Running it as root obviously brings
risks which could potentially compromise the root account.

Have you tried just changing the setting 'enable daemon=yes' in the file
/etc/default/fetchmail and rebooting which should trigger the daemon
anyway?

Otherwise you could run a cron job to trigger the daemon and specify
'set daemon 300' for example in your ~/.fetchmailrc file.

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Jamie writes:
> using individual user ~/.fetchmailrc files is probably a safer and
> preferred way to use fetchmail.

Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user
named "mailagent" which then passes the mail to Mailagent (could just as
well be Procmail) for local sorting and delivery.
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 07:35:59AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Jamie writes:
> > using individual user ~/.fetchmailrc files is probably a safer and
> > preferred way to use fetchmail.
>
> Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user
> named "mailagent" which then passes the mail to Mailagent (could just as
> well be Procmail) for local sorting and delivery.

It appears that the fetchmail init script does something like this
already. At least on my mail server, it is running as user "103". I'm
not sure why this user doesn't have a name, but regardless, it's not a
root process.

A

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I wrote:
> Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user
> named "mailagent" which then passes the mail to Mailagent (could just as
> well be Procmail) for local sorting and delivery.

Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> It appears that the fetchmail init script does something like this
> already. At least on my mail server, it is running as user "103".

Yes, it appears that my method (which I developed before Fetchmail had a
daemon mode (initial version, before Fetchmail existed)) is obsolete.

> I'm not sure why this user doesn't have a name, but regardless, it's not
> a root process.

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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:25:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Those are not the only choices. I run Fetchmail as an unprivileged user
> > named "mailagent" which then passes the mail to Mailagent (could just as
> > well be Procmail) for local sorting and delivery.
>
> Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> > It appears that the fetchmail init script does something like this
> > already. At least on my mail server, it is running as user "103".
>
> Yes, it appears that my method (which I developed before Fetchmail had a
> daemon mode (initial version, before Fetchmail existed)) is obsolete.
>
> > I'm not sure why this user doesn't have a name, but regardless, it's not
> > a root process.
>
> 103 should be the user "fetchmail".

yeah. I need to find out why `ps aux` shows fetchmail run by user
'103' and exim run by user '101' instead of by their names...

A

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> yeah. I need to find out why `ps aux` shows fetchmail run by user
> '103' and exim run by user '101' instead of by their names...
>

I believe it has to do with the length of the name. (Even tough
fetchmail does not seem very long.)

Taken from
http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserF...b5707a0b2cea6d

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> [snip]
> yeah. I need to find out why `ps aux` shows fetchmail run by user
> '103' and exim run by user '101' instead of by their names...
>
> A

Their names are longer than 8 characters.

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