Hi,

I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
can't figure out what is going on.

I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
(Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
of the session.

[By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
the key combo falls to the window with focus.]

I tried a new, test user, and his shortcuts work correctly between
sessions. I assume something has become corrupted somewhere in my
$HOME, but I have no idea what.

I don't know if this is in any way related, but I also am experiencing
similar strangeness with the WM independent xbindkeys (the above
description is without running xbindkeys). It used to work fine, but
some time ago many of the shortcuts I defined (in $HOME/xbindkeysrc)
stopped working. Sometimes only the first in the file
would work, but after I used the first one the others would also
(often) begin to work.

Any suggestions? What could be wrong / misconfigured?

Celejar
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Celejar on 29/01/08 01:02, wrote:
> I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> can't figure out what is going on.
>
> I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
> (Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
> fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
> restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
> again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
> it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
> of the session.
>
> [By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
> the key combo falls to the window with focus.]
>
> I tried a new, test user, and his shortcuts work correctly between
> sessions. I assume something has become corrupted somewhere in my
> $HOME, but I have no idea what.
>
> I don't know if this is in any way related, but I also am experiencing
> similar strangeness with the WM independent xbindkeys (the above
> description is without running xbindkeys). It used to work fine, but
> some time ago many of the shortcuts I defined (in $HOME/xbindkeysrc)
> stopped working. Sometimes only the first in the file
> would work, but after I used the first one the others would also
> (often) begin to work.
>
> Any suggestions? What could be wrong / misconfigured?

I'm sorry but I don't know what the problem is, apart from the fact that it
really smells like a bug. But I would say Xfce should be able to fix it. What
version are you on, and which distro - lenny or etch or ? I found that the
version that comes with etch was surprisingly old, but I wasn't hassled enough
to upgrade to lenny to try to sort it out.


Adam


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On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> can't figure out what is going on.
>
> I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
> (Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
> fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
> restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
> again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
> it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
> of the session.
>
> [By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
> the key combo falls to the window with focus.]

This sounds very much like a session problem. Perhaps your session got
saved with those particular processes *not* running and subsequently
they aren't available until you start them. Its been a while since I
used xfce, so I don't remember the process, but try getting into a
state that you want to keep and then save the session.

A

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:18:15 -0800
Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> > trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> > can't figure out what is going on.
> >
> > I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
> > (Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
> > fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
> > restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
> > again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
> > it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
> > of the session.
> >
> > [By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
> > the key combo falls to the window with focus.]
>
> This sounds very much like a session problem. Perhaps your session got
> saved with those particular processes *not* running and subsequently
> they aren't available until you start them. Its been a while since I
> used xfce, so I don't remember the process, but try getting into a
> state that you want to keep and then save the session.

Thanks. I saved a working-shortcut-keys session, but the shortcuts
still don't work on restart (until I open the Keyboard Settings window,
as above).

> A

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:34:03PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:18:15 -0800
> Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> > > trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> > > can't figure out what is going on.
> > >
> > > I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
> > > (Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
> > > fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
> > > restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
> > > again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
> > > it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
> > > of the session.
> > >
> > > [By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
> > > the key combo falls to the window with focus.]
> >
> > This sounds very much like a session problem. Perhaps your session got
> > saved with those particular processes *not* running and subsequently
> > they aren't available until you start them. Its been a while since I
> > used xfce, so I don't remember the process, but try getting into a
> > state that you want to keep and then save the session.
>
> Thanks. I saved a working-shortcut-keys session, but the shortcuts
> still don't work on restart (until I open the Keyboard Settings window,
> as above).

Well, it still sounds like a session saving problem, but obviously a
deeper problem than just saving the session through the UI. I would
ask on xfce's mailing list. IIRC, they're pretty ful over there.

A

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:28:21 +0000
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:

> Celejar on 29/01/08 01:02, wrote:
> > I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> > trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> > can't figure out what is going on.
> >
> > I created a new theme and added some keyboard shortcuts to it
> > (Settings / Keyboard Settings / Shortcuts - Themes), and they work
> > fine, but they don't completely survive a reset; every time xfce is
> > restarted, they don't work, until I open the Keyboard settings window
> > again. Opening the window, even without actually doing anything inside
> > it, reactivates them, and then they continue to work fine for the rest
> > of the session.
> >
> > [By "not working", I mean that the designated app isn't started, and
> > the key combo falls to the window with focus.]
> >
> > I tried a new, test user, and his shortcuts work correctly between
> > sessions. I assume something has become corrupted somewhere in my
> > $HOME, but I have no idea what.
> >
> > I don't know if this is in any way related, but I also am experiencing
> > similar strangeness with the WM independent xbindkeys (the above
> > description is without running xbindkeys). It used to work fine, but
> > some time ago many of the shortcuts I defined (in $HOME/xbindkeysrc)
> > stopped working. Sometimes only the first in the file
> > would work, but after I used the first one the others would also
> > (often) begin to work.
> >
> > Any suggestions? What could be wrong / misconfigured?
>
> I'm sorry but I don't know what the problem is, apart from the fact that it
> really smells like a bug. But I would say Xfce should be able to fix it. What
> version are you on, and which distro - lenny or etch or ? I found that the
> version that comes with etch was surprisingly old, but I wasn't hassled enough
> to upgrade to lenny to try to sort it out.

Thanks. Up to date sid. What makes me think that it's not a simple bug
is the fact that another (test) user doesn't seem to be having the same
problem, which makes me think that something has become corrupted in my
$HOME, above. I may take your implicit advice and ask on the Xfce list.

> Adam

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:21:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:28:21 +0000
> Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
>
> > Celejar on 29/01/08 01:02, wrote:
> > > I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> > > trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> > > can't figure out what is going on.
> > >
...
> >
> > I'm sorry but I don't know what the problem is, apart from the fact that it
> > really smells like a bug. But I would say Xfce should be able to fix it. What
> > version are you on, and which distro - lenny or etch or ? I found that the
> > version that comes with etch was surprisingly old, but I wasn't hassledenough
> > to upgrade to lenny to try to sort it out.
>
> Thanks. Up to date sid. What makes me think that it's not a simple bug
> is the fact that another (test) user doesn't seem to be having the same
> problem, which makes me think that something has become corrupted in my
> $HOME, above. I may take your implicit advice and ask on the Xfce list.

Yeah, this is significant. Can you move aside .xfce/ (or whatever they
call it) in your user? maybe that s.

But, yes, check with xfce directly. They probably want to know that
they've got inconsistent behavior.

A

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:31:38 -0800
Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:21:30PM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:28:21 +0000
> > Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Celejar on 29/01/08 01:02, wrote:
> > > > I've been struggling for quite some time, and I'm quite baffled. I'm
> > > > trying to get my keyboard shortcuts to work properly under Xfce, and I
> > > > can't figure out what is going on.
> > > >
> ...
> > >
> > > I'm sorry but I don't know what the problem is, apart from the fact that it
> > > really smells like a bug. But I would say Xfce should be able to fix it. What
> > > version are you on, and which distro - lenny or etch or ? I found that the
> > > version that comes with etch was surprisingly old, but I wasn't hassled enough
> > > to upgrade to lenny to try to sort it out.
> >
> > Thanks. Up to date sid. What makes me think that it's not a simple bug
> > is the fact that another (test) user doesn't seem to be having the same
> > problem, which makes me think that something has become corrupted in my
> > $HOME, above. I may take your implicit advice and ask on the Xfce list.
>
> Yeah, this is significant. Can you move aside .xfce/ (or whatever they
> call it) in your user? maybe that s.

I had tried deleting $HOME/.config/xfce4, which didn't . There's
no $HOME/xfce*. I wasn't sure what else to play with.

> But, yes, check with xfce directly. They probably want to know that
> they've got inconsistent behavior.

I forwarded the original message to the xfce ML.

> A

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