Hello!

I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
but laptop has not network connection.

I downloaded this netinst.iso and I want not to download any more
CD iso files.

Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?

I can't use apt-zip on laptop system because the netinst.iso CD does
not have apt-zip package.

The bootcd application can write only the whole system to laptop, but
I want not this to do.

Are there any other symple method to transfer some packages from
my Desktop Debian Etch system to my laptop Debian Etch system?

Any advice will be appreciated!

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
...
>
> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
> but laptop has not network connection.
>
> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?

sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
them.

A

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On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
> ...
>> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
>> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
>> but laptop has not network connection.
>>
>> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
>> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>
> sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
> them.

Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
> ...
>> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
>> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
>> but laptop has not network connection.
>>
>> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
>> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>
> sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
> them.
>
> A
if it isn't many files it is a good solutione (dpkg -i file.deb to
install) but if have houndreds i guess it be good ida to create a
local repository on the usb and then apt-get from it.

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:12:39 +0100
"Paul Csanyi" <csanyipal@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
> but laptop has not network connection.
>
> I downloaded this netinst.iso and I want not to download any more
> CD iso files.
>
> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>
> I can't use apt-zip on laptop system because the netinst.iso CD does
> not have apt-zip package.

I see that apt-zip has no dependencies other than apt, so copy the
apt-zip deb manually to the laptop, and then use apt-zip to move other
stuff.

> Regards, Paul Csanyi

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:

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> (Please, shorter -- but not too short -- subjects...)
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> On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
> > ...
> >> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
> >> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
> >> but laptop has not network connection.
> >>
> >> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
> >> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
> >
> > sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
> > them.
>
> Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
> sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.

He says the laptop has no network connection - see above.

> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA USA

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On 01/26/08 23:10, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> (Please, shorter -- but not too short -- subjects...)
>>
>> On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
>>>> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
>>>> but laptop has not network connection.
>>>>
>>>> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
>>>> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>>> sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
>>> them.
>> Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
>> sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.
>
> He says the laptop has no network connection - see above.

So he does. Then he must copy the contents of
/var/cache/apt/archives piecemeal via DVD-R, or similar method.

Or... realize that difficult choices must be made when dealing with
old hardware. In this case, the Desktop needs to download a DVD
..iso, or the first couple of CD .ISOs, and have the laptop install
that way.

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Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0500 keltezéssel Celejar azt Ãrta:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:12:39 +0100
> "Paul Csanyi" <csanyipal@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I can't use apt-zip on laptop system because the netinst.iso CD does
>> not have apt-zip package.
>
> I see that apt-zip has no dependencies other than apt, so copy the
> apt-zip deb manually to the laptop, and then use apt-zip to move other
> stuff.

I did so, and now I can use apt-zip to transfer packages from my Desktop
Debian Etch to my laptop Debian Etch system.

But, apt-zip-list and ./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal download to
/media/usb0/ directory only that packages, which isn't in the repository
of the Desktop system.

Say, I have installed on Desktop Etch mc and less, but fp-compiler,
fp-units-rtl not.

When I do
apt-zip-list -m /media/usb0 -p less,mc,fp-compiler,fp-units-rtl

and

/media/usb0/./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal

there in the /media/usb0/ directory I find only:

fp-compiler_2.0.0-4_i386.deb
fp-units-rtl_2.0.0-4_i386.deb

but not mc and less debian packages.

What is the solution for this problem?

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:40:20 +0000 (UTC)
Csányi Pál <csanyipal@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:11:45 -0500 keltezéssel Celejar azt írta:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:12:39 +0100
> > "Paul Csanyi" <csanyipal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I can't use apt-zip on laptop system because the netinst.iso CD does
> >> not have apt-zip package.
> >
> > I see that apt-zip has no dependencies other than apt, so copy the
> > apt-zip deb manually to the laptop, and then use apt-zip to move other
> > stuff.
>
> I did so, and now I can use apt-zip to transfer packages from my Desktop
> Debian Etch to my laptop Debian Etch system.
>
> But, apt-zip-list and ./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal download to
> /media/usb0/ directory only that packages, which isn't in the repository
> of the Desktop system.
>
> Say, I have installed on Desktop Etch mc and less, but fp-compiler,
> fp-units-rtl not.
>
> When I do
> apt-zip-list -m /media/usb0 -p less,mc,fp-compiler,fp-units-rtl
>
> and
>
> /media/usb0/./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal
>
> there in the /media/usb0/ directory I find only:
>
> fp-compiler_2.0.0-4_i386.deb
> fp-units-rtl_2.0.0-4_i386.deb
>
> but not mc and less debian packages.
>
> What is the solution for this problem?

I'm sorry, I am not actually familiar with apt-zip; I was just
suggesting a way for you to use it if you wanted to. Maybe someone
else can .

> Regards, Paul

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:49:01AM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
> > ...
> >> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
> >> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
> >> but laptop has not network connection.
> >>
> >> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
> >> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
> >
> > sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
> > them.
> >
> > A
> if it isn't many files it is a good solutione (dpkg -i file.deb to
> install) but if have houndreds i guess it be good ida to create a
> local repository on the usb and then apt-get from it.

Why not nfs mount /var/cache/apt/archives?

That s what I usd to do.

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:10:23AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> > On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
> > > ...
> > >> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
> > >> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
> > >> but laptop has not network connection.
> > >>
> > >> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
> > >> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
> > >
> > > sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
> > > them.
> >
> > Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
> > sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.
>
> He says the laptop has no network connection - see above.

Does the laptop happen to have a serial port? You could connect a null
modem between the laptop and the desktop boxes and run ppp. This not
only allows transfering files, but gives access to the internet via the
desktop (with suitable forwarding setup) so that install can proceed
normally.

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Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:45:54 -0500 keltezéssel Douglas A. Tutty azt Ãrta:

> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:10:23AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>> > On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
>> > > ...
>> > >> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
>> > >> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
>> > >> but laptop has not network connection.
>> > >>
>> > >> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
>> > >> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>> > >
>> > > sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
>> > > them.
>> >
>> > Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
>> > sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.
>>
>> He says the laptop has no network connection - see above.
>
> Does the laptop happen to have a serial port? You could connect a null
> modem between the laptop and the desktop boxes and run ppp. This not
> only allows transfering files, but gives access to the internet via the
> desktop (with suitable forwarding setup) so that install can proceed
> normally.

But I have not nullmodem cable.

I think that that it is maybe possyble to use for this pourpose an
USB cable?

Sooner or later I shall by an PCMCIA ethernet card for laptop.

I use an USB drive and this apt HOWTO:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap...basico.en.html

so I can now to install packages from Desktop to laptop.

I have only an error message when install from this local repository
from USB drive about that that this is an Untrusted source.

How can I get rid of this message?


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On 01/27/08 15:48, Csányi Pál wrote:
> Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:45:54 -0500 keltezéssel Douglas A. Tutty azt Ãrta:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:10:23AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
>>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection,
>>>>>> and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso,
>>>>>> but laptop has not network connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian packages from
>>>>>> my desktop Debian Etch to laptop Debian Etch, say with USB drive?
>>>>> sure, just cp the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install
>>>>> them.
>>>> Or install apt-proxy on the desktop system, and point the laptop's
>>>> sources.list at the desktop instead of the "real" sources.
>>> He says the laptop has no network connection - see above.
>> Does the laptop happen to have a serial port? You could connect a null
>> modem between the laptop and the desktop boxes and run ppp. This not
>> only allows transfering files, but gives access to the internet via the
>> desktop (with suitable forwarding setup) so that install can proceed
>> normally.
>
> But I have not nullmodem cable.

People used to install Unix from dozens of floppy disks.

When you have limited hardware, much expenditure of time and effort
are a foregone conclusion.

> I think that that it is maybe possyble to use for this pourpose an
> USB cable?

Or get a USB-Ethernet adapter.

> Sooner or later I shall by an PCMCIA ethernet card for laptop.
>
> I use an USB drive and this apt HOWTO:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap...basico.en.html
>
> so I can now to install packages from Desktop to laptop.

A laptop with USB but not networking? Oh well...

> I have only an error message when install from this local repository
> from USB drive about that that this is an Untrusted source.
>
> How can I get rid of this message?

For now, ignore it.

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> On 01/27/08 15:48, Csányi Pál wrote:
>
>> Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:45:54 -0500 keltezéssel Douglas A. Tutty azt Ãrta:
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:10:23AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:29:00 -0600
>>>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/26/08 18:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
> For now, ignore it.
>
> - --
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>
> "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian
> because I hate vegetables!"
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http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt

Quote: 'Note that you can disable these checks by running apt with
--allow-unauthenticated.'

Michael


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