On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then
gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X
does not get installed. If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and
isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets
done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and
installed? It can be more difficult for users with accessibility
requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially
without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the
G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished. I suppose one could
use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue
for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without
monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a
maintenance issue.



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On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 03:14:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then
> gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X
> does not get installed. If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and
> isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets
> done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and
> installed? It can be more difficult for users with accessibility
> requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially
> without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the
> G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished. I suppose one could
> use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue
> for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without
> monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a
> maintenance issue.
Hi Jude,
if I recall correctly, there is no x windows dependency because of the
split between x server and x client. What this means is that you can use
an x client on your server with an x server on another machine, thus you
do not need an x server installed on your machine. Now the issue I guess
is to communicate this to blind users and where to document it. Maybe
this is for a debian accessiblity list or the debian-devel list?
hope this explains,
Kev
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