If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.



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On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 06:42:32AM +0000, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
> configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
> transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.

sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config

Adn this is waaaaaay less complex than anything else I've seen for
smarthost!

This is also useful, even for non-GMail configuration:

http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4

HTH.

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On 09/10/07 02:26, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 06:42:32AM +0000, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
>> configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
>> transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.
>
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
>
> Adn this is waaaaaay less complex than anything else I've seen for
> smarthost!

postfix is also easy to config using dpkg-reconfigure for smarthost.

Anyone who says that "sendmail less complex than ..." refuses to
learn new things.

> This is also useful, even for non-GMail configuration:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4


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Thanks for the exim4 smart host . I would almost go with postfix
except the smart host requires authentication but doesn't support any
encryption for doing authentication on their end. It's probably what most
internet service providers are now doing since ssl and cram md5 and tls
are a hassle for them to set up and maintain on their ends.



On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:

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> On 09/10/07 02:26, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 06:42:32AM +0000, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
>>> configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
>>> transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.
>>
>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
>>
>> Adn this is waaaaaay less complex than anything else I've seen for
>> smarthost!
>
> postfix is also easy to config using dpkg-reconfigure for smarthost.
>
> Anyone who says that "sendmail less complex than ..." refuses to
> learn new things.
>
>> This is also useful, even for non-GMail configuration:
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4
>
>
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On 09/10/07 04:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Thanks for the exim4 smart host . I would almost go with postfix
> except the smart host requires authentication but doesn't support any
> encryption for doing authentication on their end.

Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee, but are you saying that
postfix does not support smarthost authentication?

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On 2007-09-10, Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 06:42:32AM +0000, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
>> configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
>> transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.
>
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
>
> Adn this is waaaaaay less complex than anything else I've seen for
> smarthost!
>

This is probably common knowledge, but I recently discovered the -u
flag. This is handy, since I routinely use three different smarthosts.
So when I plug my laptop into a different network, I switch the
comments in my /etc/exim4/update.conf.conf file to point to the right
smarthost:

dc_smarthost='smtp1.ns.sympatico.ca'
#dc_smarthost='smtp.smu.ca'
#dc_smarthost='mailhost.mcgill.ca'

and then run

dpkg-reconfigure -u exim4-config

This way, dpkg-reconfigure just switches the smarthost, without making
me answer a bunch of questions about things that don't change.

At some point I suppose I should write a script that will check which
network I'm on and invoke dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config with the right
options, but I'm not sure how to do that yet - any hints welcome!

Cheers,

Tyler


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On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:19:51PM +0000, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-09-10, Kumar Appaiah <akumar@iitm.ac.in> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 06:42:32AM +0000, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >> If using exim4 and it's necessary to use a smarthoast where can that be
> >> configured? I find sendmail less complex than exim4 and all other mail
> >> transport agents I've tried less complex than the pair of them.
> >
> > sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
> >
> > Adn this is waaaaaay less complex than anything else I've seen for
> > smarthost!
> >
>
> This is probably common knowledge, but I recently discovered the -u
> flag. This is handy, since I routinely use three different smarthosts.
> So when I plug my laptop into a different network, I switch the
> comments in my /etc/exim4/update.conf.conf file to point to the right
> smarthost:
>
> dc_smarthost='smtp1.ns.sympatico.ca'
> #dc_smarthost='smtp.smu.ca'
> #dc_smarthost='mailhost.mcgill.ca'
>
> and then run
>
> dpkg-reconfigure -u exim4-config

Postfix can have sender dependent smarthosts:

in /etc/postfix/main.cf I have

sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay

and then in /etc/postfix/sender_relay

first_user@host.local [mail.first_isp.com]
second_user@host.local [mail.second_isp.com]


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> At some point I suppose I should write a script that will check which
> network I'm on and invoke dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config with the right
> options, but I'm not sure how to do that yet - any hints welcome!
>

whereami [1] and expect [2]

[1] http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/whereami
[2] http://expect.nist.gov/


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I used postfix for a very short time with a smarthost that at that time
didn't require authentication so had no need to check out what
capabilities postfix might or might not have had at that time with respect
to smarthost authentication.



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>> Thanks for the exim4 smart host . I would almost go with postfix
>> except the smart host requires authentication but doesn't support any
>> encryption for doing authentication on their end.
>
> Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee, but are you saying that
> postfix does not support smarthost authentication?
>
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On 09/11/07 18:23, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I used postfix for a very short time with a smarthost that at that time
> didn't require authentication so had no need to check out what
> capabilities postfix might or might not have had at that time with
> respect to smarthost authentication.

Then what did you mean in your 09/10/07 04:27 comment?

(And remember that top-posting is rude.)

>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> On 09/10/07 04:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> Thanks for the exim4 smart host . I would almost go with postfix
>> except the smart host requires authentication but doesn't support any
>> encryption for doing authentication on their end.
>
> Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee, but are you saying that
> postfix does not support smarthost authentication?

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What I meant was that if postfix had the capability to do smarthost
authentication I didn't know about the syntax for it or where any such
syntax would have been stored in configuration files.




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