Hi,

Is there any way to get most of the documentation that has been removed from the debian repositories? I can always get the documentation manually from the respective project sites, but then, I would be losing the functionality of 'apt' and manually updating and maintaining the documentation is a major pain. Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks,
Rajkiran


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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 01:13:30PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to get most of the documentation that has been removed
> from the debian repositories? I can always get the documentation manually
> from the respective project sites, but then, I would be losing the
> functionality of 'apt' and manually updating and maintaining the
> documentation is a major pain. Is there an easy way to do this?

I think many docs have been moved to non-free, though you are not
being clear about which documentation.

For example, the ConTeXt typesetting package has it's doc in
context-doc-nonfree, which is in pool/non-free/c/context-doc-nonfree/

So, you might want to add non-free to your sources.list, if you
already haven't done so.

Kumar
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>
> I think many docs have been moved to non-free, though you are not
> being clear about which documentation.
>
> For example, the ConTeXt typesetting package has it's doc in
> context-doc-nonfree, which is in pool/non-free/c/context-doc-nonfree/
>
> So, you might want to add non-free to your sources.list, if you
> already haven't done so.
>
> Kumar

Some of the documentation has indeed been moved to 'nonfree', like gcc, tetex and phpdoc, and I had no trouble installing those.

But many manpages refer to the complete documentation, but 'info <command>' gives me the manual page itself. Examples are bash, cp, mv, etc. I have been so used to firing up the info documentation of bash and feel crippled trying to navigate it manpage.

Then there are packages like mysql where the documentation is not present even in the nonfree section. After being used to apt-getting for the past four years since I converted to debian, it is a bit frustrating to have to do things manually. I hope most of the documentation makes it atleast into the 'non-free' section so that maintaining current versions of the documentation is taken care of.


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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 02:01:55PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> But many manpages refer to the complete documentation, but 'info <command>'
> gives me the manual page itself. Examples are bash, cp, mv, etc. I have
> been so used to firing up the info documentation of bash and feel crippled
> trying to navigate it manpage.

Something tells me that info coreutils might be what you are looking
for, at least for mv, rm etc. Is this so?

At least for bash, note that bash-doc has a "dfsg" extension in the
source version. So, I am sure the non-free parts have been
removed. But the description of bash-doc clearly says "info format",
which is incorrect.

See the bugs for bash-doc. They require addressing, but haven't been
addressed in a long time.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgre...;dist=unstable

> Then there are packages like mysql where the documentation is not present
> even in the nonfree section. After being used to apt-getting for the past
> four years since I converted to debian, it is a bit frustrating to have to
> do things manually. I hope most of the documentation makes it atleast into
> the 'non-free' section so that maintaining current versions of the
> documentation is taken care of.

I agree with this. If not for MySQL (I don't use it), at least for
bash, please provide the info files in non-free.

Thanks!

Kumar
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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 04:31:55AM EDT, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> >
> >I think many docs have been moved to non-free, though you are not
> >being clear about which documentation.
> >
> >For example, the ConTeXt typesetting package has it's doc in
> >context-doc-nonfree, which is in pool/non-free/c/context-doc-nonfree/
> >
> >So, you might want to add non-free to your sources.list, if you
> >already haven't done so.
> >
> >Kumar
>
> Some of the documentation has indeed been moved to 'nonfree', like gcc,
> tetex and phpdoc, and I had no trouble installing those.
>
> But many manpages refer to the complete documentation, but 'info <command>'
> gives me the manual page itself.

This is called phishing.

info should display a banner saying "Sorry .. can't have it"?

"The full documentation for [name of package / command] is maintained
as a Texinfo manual"

Yeah, right.





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