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Vieux 07/09/2007, 07h50   #1
Serena Cantor
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I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to time (it's read/writing)

which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default installation. I don't start any
program myself.



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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h10   #2
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On 9/7/07, Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
> The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to time (it's read/writing)
>
> which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default installation. I don't start any
> program myself.


IMHO We need a better question before we can you.

Adrian

24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths?
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to
ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
apartment it is.


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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h20   #3
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Could you be more specific?

Supporse I have just installed sarge, which script are read/writing disk from time to time (so I
can change it)?

--- Adrian Levi <adrian.levi@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/7/07, Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
> > The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to time (it's read/writing)
> >
> > which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default installation. I don't start any
> > program myself.

>
> IMHO We need a better question before we can you.
>
> Adrian
>
> 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths?
> <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to
> ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
> apartment it is.
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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h20   #4
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:45:05 -0700 (PDT)
Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
> The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to
> time (it's read/writing)
>
> which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default
> installation. I don't start any program myself.


Could be anything. There's a dozen processes runing on that machine at any given time, and any of them may access some files anytime. smbd for instance checks its configuration file every minute or so, and there may be other services that do likewise.

BTW, if this machine is a server, wouldn't you expect it to do some work every now and then? Or if you didn't, why do you keep it on all the time? I can't get my head around people who insist on leaving unused machines powered 24/7.

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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h30   #5
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On Friday, 7. September 2007 09:45, Serena Cantor wrote:
> I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
> The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to time (it's
> read/writing)
>
> which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default installation.
> I don't start any program myself.

One a bit 'noisy' one is updatedb, which updates the locate database. Other
candidates might include logrotate and other stuff in /etc/cron.*
Then there's swap possibly and a ton of other stuff. My very low end PC makes
noise each time I log in with ssh.
With 'sudo lsof' you'll get a list of open files.
Maybe someone else is able to give you more detailed information.

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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h40   #6
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Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do you mean that there's
nothing I can do about it?

My sarge is intended to be server, hopefully, most of server-related work I add can be done in
memory.


--- Dan H <dunno@stoptrick.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:45:05 -0700 (PDT)
> Serena Cantor <qipaishi2006@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have sarge, I use it all the time (it's server)
> > The machine is my bedroom and scsi disk make noise from time to
> > time (it's read/writing)
> >
> > which script cause reading/writing? Let's assume it's default
> > installation. I don't start any program myself.

>
> Could be anything. There's a dozen processes runing on that machine at any given time, and any
> of them may access some files anytime. smbd for instance checks its configuration file every
> minute or so, and there may be other services that do likewise.
>
> BTW, if this machine is a server, wouldn't you expect it to do some work every now and then? Or
> if you didn't, why do you keep it on all the time? I can't get my head around people who insist
> on leaving unused machines powered 24/7.
>
> --D.
>




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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h50   #7
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Serena Cantor wrote:
> Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do you mean that there's
> nothing I can do about it?


<snip>

Silly question.



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Vieux 07/09/2007, 08h50   #8
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On Friday 07 September 2007, Serena Cantor wrote:
> Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start
> automatically? Do you mean that there's nothing I can do about it?


Why not try "ps -ax" or "ps -aux" to get a list of programs running at
any time? Then examine the crontab files as well and see what's
starting at regular intervals.

You're talking about a long list of services in some cases, so it's not
a case of someone telling you about 3-4 programs.

> My sarge is intended to be server, hopefully, most of server-related
> work I add can be done in memory.


What are you serving that is only done in memory? If it's a print
server, that's large files that go to the printer and they're written
to the hard drive during output. If you're serving files, of course,
that uses the drive. What service are you providing that doesn't need
to access the drives?

Hal


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