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Vieux 21/08/2007, 01h30   #1
Adam Hardy
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I set up etch on a new pc and gkrellm can't find any CPU or mobo monitors for
temperature monitoring. My other older system uses mbmon and hdmon. Is this out
of date now?

When I start mbmon on the new box it complains: Starting motherboard sensor
monitoring daemon: No Hardware Monitor found!!

I've got sysfs sensors on the machine although it's not a daemon and it's not
running on my old machine, so I'm wondering if there's something wrong with that.

Any advice?

thanks
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Vieux 21/08/2007, 14h40   #2
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Adam Hardy wrote:
> I set up etch on a new pc and gkrellm can't find any CPU or mobo
> monitors for temperature monitoring. My other older system uses mbmon
> and hdmon. Is this out of date now?
>
> When I start mbmon on the new box it complains: Starting motherboard
> sensor monitoring daemon: No Hardware Monitor found!!
>
> I've got sysfs sensors on the machine although it's not a daemon and
> it's not running on my old machine, so I'm wondering if there's
> something wrong with that.
>
> Any advice?
>


That's been in the list several times:
install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect on a VT.

Hugo


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Vieux 21/08/2007, 15h50   #3
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Hugo Vanwoerkom on 21/08/07 14:35, wrote:
> Adam Hardy wrote:
>> I set up etch on a new pc and gkrellm can't find any CPU or mobo
>> monitors for temperature monitoring. My other older system uses mbmon
>> and hdmon. Is this out of date now?
>>
>> When I start mbmon on the new box it complains: Starting motherboard
>> sensor monitoring daemon: No Hardware Monitor found!!
>>
>> I've got sysfs sensors on the machine although it's not a daemon and
>> it's not running on my old machine, so I'm wondering if there's
>> something wrong with that.
>>

> That's been in the list several times:
> install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect on a VT.


Thanks, Hugo. Guess I used the wrong search terms - I think my synapses had
started cutting out last night.

I have done that now and the CPU temp is available. However mbmon is still
complaining about the same thing as above. I'm tempted to ignore it although it
seems strange.



Cheers
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Vieux 21/08/2007, 18h20   #4
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Hello!

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:41:26 +0100
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:

[...]
>
> I have done that now and the CPU temp is available. However mbmon is
> still complaining about the same thing as above. I'm tempted to ignore
> it although it seems strange.


You can use lm-sensors *or* mbmon. If mbmon does not work, disable it in
the gkrellm configuration dialog. The lm-sensors settings can be adjusted
in /etc/sensors.conf (if needed).

Peter

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Vieux 21/08/2007, 22h20   #5
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Adam Hardy wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom on 21/08/07 14:35, wrote:
>> Adam Hardy wrote:
>>> I set up etch on a new pc and gkrellm can't find any CPU or mobo
>>> monitors for temperature monitoring. My other older system uses mbmon
>>> and hdmon. Is this out of date now?
>>>
>>> When I start mbmon on the new box it complains: Starting motherboard
>>> sensor monitoring daemon: No Hardware Monitor found!!
>>>
>>> I've got sysfs sensors on the machine although it's not a daemon and
>>> it's not running on my old machine, so I'm wondering if there's
>>> something wrong with that.
>>>

>> That's been in the list several times:
>> install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect on a VT.

>
> Thanks, Hugo. Guess I used the wrong search terms - I think my synapses
> had started cutting out last night.
>
> I have done that now and the CPU temp is available. However mbmon is
> still complaining about the same thing as above. I'm tempted to ignore
> it although it seems strange.
>


Interesting, my diary-blog has that I looked at mbmon on 11/26/2004 but
not that I ever ran it.

However now installing it on Sid and running it and then sensors I get:

================================================== ===========
Script started on Tue 21 Aug 2007 03:57:11 PM CDT
executing /root/.bashrc
/Tue Aug 21-15:57:11SDA5# mbmon

Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4927, 0
Vcore = 1.63, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71

Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4891, 0
Vcore = 1.65, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71

/Tue Aug 21-15:57:23SDA5# sensors
w83687thf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore 1: 1.63 (in0)
in0_min: 0.00 (in0_min)
in0_max: 3.84 (in0_max)
VCore 2: 3.23 (in1)
in1_min: 1.26 (in1_min)
in1_max: 3.34 (in1_max)
+3.3V: 2.91 (in2)
in2_min: 3.73 (in2_min)
in2_max: 2.51 (in2_max)
+5V: 5.05 (in3)
in3_min: 4.01 (in3_min)
in3_max: 2.12 (in3_max)
+12V: 6.08 (in4)
in4_min: 6.02 (in4_min)
in4_max: 9.42 (in4_max)
ERROR: Can't get feature `in5' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `in5_min' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `in5_max' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `in6' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `in6_min' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `in6_max' data!
V5SB: 4.95 (in7)
in7_min: 6.29 (in7_min)
in7_max: 5.51 (in7_max)
VBat: 3.06 (in8)
in8_min: 1.95 (in8_min)
in8_max: 4.02 (in8_max)
fan1: 998.00 (fan1)
fan1_min: 2191.00 (fan1_min)
fan1_div: 8.00 (fan1_div)
fan2: 4927.00 (fan2)
fan2_min: 2872.00 (fan2_min)
fan2_div: 2.00 (fan2_div)
fan3: 0.00 (fan3)
fan3_min: 1486.00 (fan3_min)
fan3_div: 4.00 (fan3_div)
temp1: 35.00 (temp1)
temp1_hyst: 92.00 (temp1_hyst)
temp1_over: -78.00 (temp1_over)
sensor1: 1.00 (sensor1)
temp2: 44.50 (temp2)
temp2_hyst: 71.00 (temp2_hyst)
temp2_over: 76.00 (temp2_over)
sensor2: 1.00 (sensor2)
temp3: 29.00 (temp3)
temp3_hyst: 71.00 (temp3_hyst)
temp3_over: 76.00 (temp3_over)
sensor3: 1.00 (sensor3)
ERROR: Can't get feature `vid' data!
ERROR: Can't get feature `vrm' data!
alarms: 71756.00 (alarms)
beep_enable: 1.00 (beep_enable)
beeps: 0.00 (beeps)

/Tue Aug 21-15:57:29SDA5# exit
exit

Script done on Tue 21 Aug 2007 03:57:32 PM CDT
================================================== ===========

which shows,at least as the temp is concerned that mbmon gets temp3, the
ambient temperature, but not temp1, the mobo temperature, or temp2, the
CPU temperature.

The mobo is en EP-8VTAI, which I would not get anymore.

As to why you'd have to get mbmon's source and dig it out, I guess.

Hugo






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Vieux 22/08/2007, 04h00   #6
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:16:01PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4927, 0
> Vcore = 1.63, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71
>
> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4891, 0
> Vcore = 1.65, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71


> which shows,at least as the temp is concerned that mbmon gets temp3, the
> ambient temperature, but not temp1, the mobo temperature, or temp2, the
> CPU temperature.
>
> The mobo is en EP-8VTAI, which I would not get anymore.
>
> As to why you'd have to get mbmon's source and dig it out, I guess.


On my box, with Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 (Athlon64) running amd64, mbmon
shows three temps but doesn't get all the volts. I also don't know
as the temps are accurate; would the CPU really be 252. There are only
2 fans in the box that report speed: the CPU fan and the case's
cross-flow squirrel cage, so I know that the CPU fan is running.

Temp.= 26.0, 252.0, 30.0; Rot.= 3571, 4470, 0
Vcore = 1.26, 3.18; Volt. = 0.00, 4.73, 11.19, -0.00, -0.00

I tried to use lmsensors but last time I tried, it said there were no
sensors.

Doug.


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Vieux 22/08/2007, 19h50   #7
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Douglas A. Tutty on 22/08/07 03:57, wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:16:01PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>
>> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4927, 0
>> Vcore = 1.63, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71
>>
>> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4891, 0
>> Vcore = 1.65, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71

>
>> which shows,at least as the temp is concerned that mbmon gets temp3, the
>> ambient temperature, but not temp1, the mobo temperature, or temp2, the
>> CPU temperature.
>>
>> The mobo is en EP-8VTAI, which I would not get anymore.
>>
>> As to why you'd have to get mbmon's source and dig it out, I guess.

>
> On my box, with Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 (Athlon64) running amd64, mbmon
> shows three temps but doesn't get all the volts. I also don't know
> as the temps are accurate; would the CPU really be 252. There are only
> 2 fans in the box that report speed: the CPU fan and the case's
> cross-flow squirrel cage, so I know that the CPU fan is running.
>
> Temp.= 26.0, 252.0, 30.0; Rot.= 3571, 4470, 0
> Vcore = 1.26, 3.18; Volt. = 0.00, 4.73, 11.19, -0.00, -0.00
>
> I tried to use lmsensors but last time I tried, it said there were no
> sensors.


is that what sensors-detect says?


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Vieux 22/08/2007, 20h00   #8
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Adam Hardy on 22/08/07 19:42, wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty on 22/08/07 03:57, wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 04:16:01PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>
>>> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4927, 0
>>> Vcore = 1.63, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71
>>>
>>> Temp.= 29.0, 0.0, 0.0; Rot.= 998, 4891, 0
>>> Vcore = 1.65, 3.23; Volt. = 2.91, 5.05, 6.08, 5.99, -7.71

>>
>>> which shows,at least as the temp is concerned that mbmon gets temp3,
>>> the ambient temperature, but not temp1, the mobo temperature, or
>>> temp2, the CPU temperature.
>>>
>>> The mobo is en EP-8VTAI, which I would not get anymore.
>>>
>>> As to why you'd have to get mbmon's source and dig it out, I guess.

>>
>> On my box, with Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 (Athlon64) running amd64, mbmon
>> shows three temps but doesn't get all the volts. I also don't know
>> as the temps are accurate; would the CPU really be 252. There are only
>> 2 fans in the box that report speed: the CPU fan and the case's
>> cross-flow squirrel cage, so I know that the CPU fan is running.
>>
>> Temp.= 26.0, 252.0, 30.0; Rot.= 3571, 4470, 0
>> Vcore = 1.26, 3.18; Volt. = 0.00, 4.73, 11.19, -0.00, -0.00
>>
>> I tried to use lmsensors but last time I tried, it said there were no
>> sensors.

>
> is that what sensors-detect says?


Actually I don't know whether to trust the output of sensors either. The values
for temperatures are all reasonable, but the word ALARM appears worryingly on
several lines:

isengard:~# sensors
w83627ehf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore: +1.13 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +1.74 V)
in1: +12.14 V (min = +13.36 V, max = +13.46 V) ALARM
AVCC: +3.33 V (min = +2.29 V, max = +4.08 V)
3VCC: +3.33 V (min = +4.08 V, max = +3.02 V) ALARM
in4: +1.69 V (min = +0.50 V, max = +2.04 V)
in5: +1.57 V (min = +2.02 V, max = +1.53 V) ALARM
in6: +5.04 V (min = +6.53 V, max = +4.89 V) ALARM
VSB: +3.33 V (min = +4.08 V, max = +3.06 V) ALARM
VBAT: +0.00 V (min = +4.08 V, max = +4.05 V) ALARM
in9: +1.62 V (min = +1.98 V, max = +2.04 V) ALARM
Case Fan: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 128)
CPU Fan: 1250 RPM (min = 685 RPM, div = 8)
Aux Fan: 0 RPM (min = 0 RPM, div = 128)
fan4: 0 RPM (min = 10546 RPM, div = 128) ALARM
Sys Temp: +43°C (high = -5°C, hyst = -45°C) ALARM
CPU Temp: +49.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)
AUX Temp: +45.5°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C)


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Vieux 22/08/2007, 23h10   #9
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 07:42:30PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty on 22/08/07 03:57, wrote:
>
> >On my box, with Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 (Athlon64) running amd64, mbmon
> >shows three temps but doesn't get all the volts. I also don't know
> >as the temps are accurate; would the CPU really be 252. There are only
> >2 fans in the box that report speed: the CPU fan and the case's
> >cross-flow squirrel cage, so I know that the CPU fan is running.
> >
> >Temp.= 26.0, 252.0, 30.0; Rot.= 3571, 4470, 0
> >Vcore = 1.26, 3.18; Volt. = 0.00, 4.73, 11.19, -0.00, -0.00


After writing this, I rebooted the box and looked at the bios sensors
page. Nothing is 252 and there are 4 temp and 4 fans (I forgot two)
that report speed. Also, all the voltages are fine with nothing as
"0.00".

> >
> >I tried to use lmsensors but last time I tried, it said there were no
> >sensors.

>
> is that what sensors-detect says?


Something like that, it was months ago and I forget the actual message.

Doug.


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