Hello,
I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB stick ?

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On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
> Hello,
> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.

Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.

> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
> stick ?

How big is your USB stick?

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On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
> Hello,
> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.

Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.

> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
> stick ?

How big is your USB stick?

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick

>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>
>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>
>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>> stick ?
>
>How big is your USB stick?
it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
openoffice.
I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA card ?
knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick

>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>
>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>
>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>> stick ?
>
>How big is your USB stick?
it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
openoffice.
I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA card ?
knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))

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Gerard Robin wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>
>>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>>
>>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>>
>>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>>> stick ?
>>
>>How big is your USB stick?
> it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
> stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
> openoffice.
> I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA
> card ? knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))
>
Hi Gerard,
Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. If not, sorry. Why don't you
install your knoppix on the usb drive and when all is working smoothly
remove the packages you're not using?
I must be missing something, right?
Cheers,
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Gerard Robin wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>
>>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>>
>>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>>
>>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>>> stick ?
>>
>>How big is your USB stick?
> it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
> stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
> openoffice.
> I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA
> card ? knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))
>
Hi Gerard,
Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. If not, sorry. Why don't you
install your knoppix on the usb drive and when all is working smoothly
remove the packages you're not using?
I must be missing something, right?
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 05:39:43PM +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>From: Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on murphy.debian.org
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>Gerard Robin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>>
>>>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>>>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>>>
>>>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>>>
>>>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>>>> stick ?
>>>
>>>How big is your USB stick?
>> it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
>> stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
>> openoffice.
>> I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA
>> card ? knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))
>>
>Hi Gerard,
>Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. If not, sorry. Why don't you
>install your knoppix on the usb drive and when all is working smoothly
>remove the packages you're not using?
>I must be missing something, right?
I can do apt-get remove useless.package (for my usage) all works fine, the
system says to me that the package is removed.
But I notice 2 things:
- after that the useless.package has been removed the memory free is
smaller than before.
- I stop the computer and when I reboot the box the useless.package is
always there. I think it has been removed of the ramdisk not of the USB
stick.
I used "Knoppix Persistent feature" ... but nothing persist ...
I think that I also miss something as well.

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 05:39:43PM +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>From: Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on murphy.debian.org
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>Gerard Robin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>>To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>>
>>>On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>>>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>>>
>>>Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>>>
>>>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
>>>> stick ?
>>>
>>>How big is your USB stick?
>> it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
>> stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
>> openoffice.
>> I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the PCMCIA
>> card ? knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))
>>
>Hi Gerard,
>Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. If not, sorry. Why don't you
>install your knoppix on the usb drive and when all is working smoothly
>remove the packages you're not using?
>I must be missing something, right?
I can do apt-get remove useless.package (for my usage) all works fine, the
system says to me that the package is removed.
But I notice 2 things:
- after that the useless.package has been removed the memory free is
smaller than before.
- I stop the computer and when I reboot the box the useless.package is
always there. I think it has been removed of the ramdisk not of the USB
stick.
I used "Knoppix Persistent feature" ... but nothing persist ...
I think that I also miss something as well.

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Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix.

It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation.

http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm

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Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix.

It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation.

http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm

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Not far from here, by a white sun, behind a green star, lived the
Steelypips, illustrious, industrious, and they hadn't a care: no spats
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moon, no trouble from matter or antimatter -- for they had a
machine, a dream of a machine, with springs and gears and perfect
in every respect. And they lived with it, and on it, and under it, and
inside it, for it was all they had -- first they saved up all their atoms,
then they put them all together, and if one didn't fit, why they
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On 08/15/07 11:52, Gerard Robin wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 05:39:43PM +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> From: Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on
>> murphy.debian.org
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>> Gerard Robin wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:09:42AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>>> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>>>
>>>> On 08/15/07 03:30, Gerard Robin wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
>>>>> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
>>>>
>>>> Buy a bigger USB stick? They're not that expensive.
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my
>>>>> USB
>>>>> stick ?
>>>>
>>>> How big is your USB stick?
>>> it's a 2 Gb, I have got enough space, but it's absurd to put on an USB
>>> stick a lot of packages that I never use or which need a lot of ram like
>>> openoffice.

Ah, so this isn't a life-or-death issue.

>>> I installed slax (~ 200 Mb) but the boot failed when it detect the
>>> PCMCIA
>>> card ? knoppix is a very good job. (but too big :-))
>>>
>> Hi Gerard,
>> Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. If not, sorry. Why don't you
>> install your knoppix on the usb drive and when all is working smoothly
>> remove the packages you're not using?
>> I must be missing something, right?
> I can do apt-get remove useless.package (for my usage) all works fine,
> the system says to me that the package is removed. But I notice 2 things:
> - after that the useless.package has been removed the memory free is
> smaller than before.
> - I stop the computer and when I reboot the box the useless.package is
> always there. I think it has been removed of the ramdisk not of the USB

Interesting.

> stick. I used "Knoppix Persistent feature" ... but nothing persist
> ... I think that I also miss something as well.

What do the Knoppix mailing lists or forums say?

(They might tell you that you have to build your own "ISO", which is
probably pretty automated by now.)

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Gerard Robin wrote:
> Hello,
> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big
> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages.
> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my USB
> stick ?

Debian Live [1] is the only live CD/USB which is 100% pure Debian. There are
images available for Etch, Lenny and Sid with builds for the standard system,
Gnome, KDE or Xfce. Alternatively, you can build your own custom version with
only the packages you specify. There is a wiki with various howtos [2] and a
mailing list [3].

[1] http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive
[3] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/piper...an-live-devel/

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:37:23PM -0600, Aenn Seidhe Priest wrote:
>From: Aenn Seidhe Priest <sidhepriest@yandex.ru>
>To: g.robin3@free.fr, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: live Debian on USB stick
>X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4)
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>Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix.
>
>It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation.
>
>http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm
thanks for the advices (Aenn, Mark, Chris)

Feather Linux and dsl boot my box and xwindow works fine but I
encountered some issues:

fdisk -l gives:
USB stick:
/dev/sda1 ......
/dev/sda2 ......
hdd:
nothing ;-)

I expect:
hdd:
/dev/sda1 .... windows
/dev/sda2 .... windows
/dev/sda3 .... windows
/dev/sda5 .... linux
....
USB stick:
/dev/sdb1 * fat 16 or 32 ~ 750Mb
/dev/sdb2 linux ext2 or ext3

there is a problem ...

No sound.

The sound isn't a problem for me, but it's important that I can accede to
my hdd (to repair something, in case ...).

Debian live gives: missing operating system.
I followed the tuto located here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB

To install correctly knoppix I used the excellent tuto located here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02...1-using-linux/
I have to install the packages: syslinux, lilo, mbr, dosfstools which
contains mkfs.vfat and mkfs.ext2/3

to install, ALMOST, correctly Feather Linux and dsl I used the same tuto
with a few changes.

(sorry for my poor english)

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:37:23 -0600
"Aenn Seidhe Priest" <sidhepriest@yandex.ru> wrote:

> Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix.
>
> It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation.
>
> http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm

And don't forget grml-small [0], which, IIUC, is the most Debian-ish of the small LiveCDs.

[0] http://grml.org/faq/#grmlsmall
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"Aenn Seidhe Priest" <sidhepriest@yandex.ru> wrote:

> Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix.
>
> It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation.
>
> http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm

And don't forget grml-small [0], which, IIUC, is the most Debian-ish of the small LiveCDs.

[0] http://grml.org/faq/#grmlsmall
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