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Hello,
I have upgraded a Notebook from SARGE to ETCH. But the E-mail program EVOLUTION does not start anymore. strace evolution finishes with: --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- I have googled for hours - nothing found. please, what can I do to get some hint? Hugo __________________________________________________ __________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 13:00:00 -0700, Hugo Wau wrote:
> Hello, > > I have upgraded a Notebook from SARGE to ETCH. > But the E-mail program EVOLUTION does not start > anymore. > > strace evolution > > finishes with: > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- > > I have googled for hours - nothing found. > > please, what can I do to get some hint? It would be important to see a few lines of the strace output that comes immediately before the segfault. Also, a more general question: Did you follow the upgrade guide (Etch's release notes) when you went from Sarge to Etch? -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 13:00:00 -0700, Hugo Wau wrote:
> Hello, > > I have upgraded a Notebook from SARGE to ETCH. > But the E-mail program EVOLUTION does not start > anymore. > > strace evolution > > finishes with: > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- > > I have googled for hours - nothing found. > > please, what can I do to get some hint? It would be important to see a few lines of the strace output that comes immediately before the segfault. Also, a more general question: Did you follow the upgrade guide (Etch's release notes) when you went from Sarge to Etch? -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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--- Florian Kulzer <florian.kulzer+debian@icfo.es>
wrote: > It would be important to see a few lines of the > strace output that comes Hello Florian, here they are a few of the last lines. The lines above look pretty much the same, with different library files to be looked for: open("/usr/lib/libsoftokn3.so.0d", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60<\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=307016, ....}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 310420, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb6ae0000 mmap2(0xb6b28000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x47) = 0xb6b28000 close(3) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb6adf000 open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/i686/cmov/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/i686/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60x\1"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1023476, ....}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1027036, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb69e4000 mmap2(0xb6adc000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xf7) = 0xb6adc000 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ Process 3243 detached > immediately before the segfault. > > Also, a more general question: Did you follow the > upgrade guide (Etch's > release notes) when you went from Sarge to Etch? I followed the upgrade guide pretty well, except that not libfam0c102 is installed, but libgamin0 due to the installation of XFCE4. The notebook is running pretty well with the default kernel-image-2.6-386 (2.6.18+6) Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 15:28:46 +0200, wauhugo AT yahoo DOT com wrote:
> --- Florian Kulzer wrote: >> It would be important to see a few lines of the >> strace output that comes > > > Hello Florian, here they are a few of the last lines. > The lines above look pretty much the same, with > different library files to be looked for: > > open("/usr/lib/libsoftokn3.so.0d", O_RDONLY) = 3 > read(3, > "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60<\0"..., > 512) = 512 > fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=307016, > ...}) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 310420, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb6ae0000 > mmap2(0xb6b28000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x47) = > 0xb6b28000 > close(3) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb6adf000 > open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/i686/cmov/libdb-4.4.so", > O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) > open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/i686/libdb-4.4.so", > O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) > open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/tls/libdb-4.4.so", > O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) > open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) > = 3 > read(3, > "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60x\1"..., > 512) = 512 > fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1023476, > ...}) = 0 > mmap2(NULL, 1027036, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb69e4000 > mmap2(0xb6adc000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0xf7) = > 0xb6adc000 > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- > +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > Process 3243 detached That is strange, where does the /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so file come from? If I am to trust apt-file then libdb-4.4.so should be located in /usr/lib/ and it should come from package libdb4.4. Can you post the output of the following four commands: dpkg -l evolution\* libdb4.4 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' dpkg -S /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so file /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so ldd $(which evolution) | grep libdb-4.4.so >> immediately before the segfault. >> Also, a more general question: Did you follow the >> upgrade guide (Etch's >> release notes) when you went from Sarge to Etch? > > I followed the upgrade guide pretty well, except that > not libfam0c102 is installed, but libgamin0 due to the > installation of XFCE4. That is perfectly normal. I was only asking about following the upgrade notes because I wanted to rule out having to worry about possible kernel, udev, or Xorg problems. Looks like your system is OK in that respect. > The notebook is running pretty well with the default > kernel-image-2.6-386 (2.6.18+6) That is nice. I think the evolution problem might be due to a stray library, left over from, for example, an installation of non-Debian OpenOffice.org packages. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 15:28:46 +0200, wauhugo AT yahoo DOT com wrote: > open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) > = 3 > read(3, > "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60x\1"..., > 512) = 512Process 3243 detached > > > That is strange, where does the /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so file > come from? If I am to trust apt-file then libdb-4.4.so should be located > in /usr/lib/ and it should come from package libdb4.4. > there is a symlink to /usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so > Can you post the output of the following four commands: > dpkg -l evolution\* libdb4.4 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' > ii evolution 2.6.3-6etch1 ii evolution-common 2.6.3-6etch1 ii evolution-data-server 1.6.3-5etch1 ii evolution-data-server-common 1.6.3-5etch1 un evolution-data-server-dbg <none> un evolution-data-server1.2 <none> ii evolution-dbg 2.6.3-6etch1 pn evolution-exchange <none> ii evolution-plugins 2.6.3-6etch1 un evolution-plugins-experimental <none> ii libdb4.4 4.4.20-8 > dpkg -S /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so > dpkg: /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so not found. > file /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so > /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so' > ldd $(which evolution) | grep libdb-4.4.so > /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: 4677 Segmentation fault LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 LD_WARN= LD_BIND_NOW= LD_LIBRARY_VERSION=$verify_out LD_VERBOSE= "$@" > I think the evolution problem might be due to a stray > library, left over from, for example, an installation of non-Debian > OpenOffice.org packages. > There was no NON-DEBIAN software installed before the upgrade, no one program or package from outside of the original Debian release. Hugo |
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 22:00:45 +0200, wauhugo AT yahoo DOT com wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 15:28:46 +0200, wauhugo AT yahoo DOT com wrote: >> open("/usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so", O_RDONLY) >> = 3 >> read(3, >> "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\2 60x\1"..., >> 512) = 512Process 3243 detached >> >> That is strange, where does the /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so file >> come from? If I am to trust apt-file then libdb-4.4.so should be located >> in /usr/lib/ and it should come from package libdb4.4. >> > there is a symlink to /usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so OK, maybe that is normal for Etch then. (I use Sid.) >> Can you post the output of the following four commands: >> dpkg -l evolution\* libdb4.4 | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' >> > ii evolution 2.6.3-6etch1 > ii evolution-common 2.6.3-6etch1 > ii evolution-data-server 1.6.3-5etch1 > ii evolution-data-server-common 1.6.3-5etch1 > un evolution-data-server-dbg <none> > un evolution-data-server1.2 <none> > ii evolution-dbg 2.6.3-6etch1 > pn evolution-exchange <none> > ii evolution-plugins 2.6.3-6etch1 > un evolution-plugins-experimental <none> > ii libdb4.4 4.4.20-8 That looks alright to me. One thing to try is to temporarily purge evolution-plugins and test if that fixes the problem. >> dpkg -S /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so >> > dpkg: /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so not found. That could simply mean that the symlink was created by an installation script. No cause for concern so far, I think. >> file /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so >> > /usr/lib/evolution/2.6/libdb-4.4.so: symbolic link to > `/usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so' >> ldd $(which evolution) | grep libdb-4.4.so >> > /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: 4677 Segmentation fault > LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 LD_WARN= LD_BIND_NOW= > LD_LIBRARY_VERSION=$verify_out LD_VERBOSE= "$@" ldd segfaulting might indicate a serious problem with the dynamic linker. Do you get the same segfault if you run ldd on another binary, e.g. "ldd /bin/true"? Also, which version of libc6 do you have installed? It might also to check the md5sums of all files from the evolution and the libdb4.4 package: debsums -a evolution libdb4.4 | grep -v OK$ Maybe a file got corrupted. > There was no NON-DEBIAN software installed before the upgrade, no one > program or package from outside of the original Debian release. OK, good to know. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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Is there a way to go form .flv file to .mpg
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Hash: SHA1 On 08/09/07 13:56, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: > Is there a way to go form .flv file to .mpg > under linux? Check out clive and mpgtx in the repository. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGu3FaS9HxQb37XmcRAoKOAKDsTX8XmnoYmiXJfVbf0y 9GDLgQdwCghaFc c3o0iQ0LC0sEcwf5dmSiG8o= =EYXJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On 8/9/07, ISHWAR RATTAN <rattan@cps.cmich.edu> wrote:
> Is there a way to go form .flv file to .mpg > under linux? > > -ishwar > Use mencoder. A basic example: mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg -- swk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:
> Is there a way to go form .flv file to .mpg > under linux? > > -ishwar > > > Yes. Assuming that you have mencoder, the script I use prior to converting from anyvideo.* to *.mpg prior to converting to DVD format is as follows: /usr/bin/mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf scale=720:576,harddup \ -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 \ -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=98 00:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:aspect=4/3:\ acodec=ac3:abitrate=192 -ofps 25 -o original.flv newvideo.mpg HtH A -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>> ldd $(which evolution) | grep libdb-4.4.so >>> >> /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: 4677 Segmentation fault >> LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 LD_WARN= LD_BIND_NOW= >> LD_LIBRARY_VERSION=$verify_out LD_VERBOSE= "$@" >> > > ldd segfaulting might indicate a serious problem with the dynamic > linker. Do you get the same segfault if you run ldd on another binary, > e.g. "ldd /bin/true"? > Florian thanks for your reply, ldd /bin/true linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7de6000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f27000) > Also, which version of libc6 do you have installed? > libc6 version 2.3.6.ds1 (by aptitude) > It might also to check the md5sums of all files from the evolution > and the libdb4.4 package: > > debsums -a evolution libdb4.4 | grep -v OK$ > debsums -a evolution libdb4.4 | grep -v OK$ debsums: no md5sums for libdb4.4 > Maybe a file got corrupted. That is it. debsums had not been installed. sleuthkit (/bin/md5) had not been installed. md5 libdb4.4_4.4.20-8_i386.deb revealed a different checksum, than the checksum published here: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/d...rch=i386&file= pool%2Fmain%2Fd%2Fdb4.4%2Flibdb4.4_4.4.20-8_i386.deb&md5sum= 90cebbe1a1b15485dd85d24fa4895e3e&arch=i386&type=ma in I have eliminated all .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives and after apt-get install --reinstall libdb4.4 (NET-INSTALL) Have I got a running EVOLUTION. Thank you very much. Hugo |
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 00:16:04 +0200, wauhugo AT yahoo DOT com wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] >> It might also to check the md5sums of all files from the evolution >> and the libdb4.4 package: >> >> debsums -a evolution libdb4.4 | grep -v OK$ >> > debsums -a evolution libdb4.4 | grep -v OK$ > debsums: no md5sums for libdb4.4 >> Maybe a file got corrupted. > > That is it. > debsums had not been installed. > sleuthkit (/bin/md5) had not been installed. > md5 libdb4.4_4.4.20-8_i386.deb > revealed a different checksum, than the checksum published here: > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/d...rch=i386&file= > pool%2Fmain%2Fd%2Fdb4.4%2Flibdb4.4_4.4.20-8_i386.deb&md5sum= > 90cebbe1a1b15485dd85d24fa4895e3e&arch=i386&type=ma in > > I have eliminated all .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives > and after apt-get install --reinstall libdb4.4 > (NET-INSTALL) > Have I got a running EVOLUTION. That is nice. You might want to check your hard drive a bit now; the corrupted .deb file might be a sign of trouble with your hard disk. You could have a look at the "smartmontools" package, for example. -- Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
> On 8/9/07, ISHWAR RATTAN <rattan@cps.cmich.edu> wrote: > > Is there a way to go form .flv file to .mpg > > under linux? > > > > -ishwar > > > > Use mencoder. A basic example: > mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts > vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg This shouldn't work. "oac copy" means to copy the video unchanged, but then you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only works if you select "oac lavc". -- Carl Fink nitpicking@nitpicking.com Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote: > > Use mencoder. A basic example: > > mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts > > vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg > > This shouldn't work. "oac copy" means to copy the video unchanged, but then > you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only works if > you select "oac lavc". -oac is output audio codec. I tested it on a youtube video and it works. -- swk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 02:16:10PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
> On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote: > > > Use mencoder. A basic example: > > > mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts > > > vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg > > > > This shouldn't work. "oac copy" means to copy the video unchanged, but then > > you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only works if > > you select "oac lavc". > > -oac is output audio codec. I tested it on a youtube video and it works. You are correct. I am an idiot. I will now go smack myself with a 2x4. -- Carl Fink nitpicking@nitpicking.com Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Carl Fink wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 02:16:10PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote: >> On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote: >>>> Use mencoder. A basic example: >>>> mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts >>>> vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg >>> >>> This shouldn't work. "oac copy" means to copy the video >>> unchanged, but then >>> you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only >>> works if >>> you select "oac lavc". >> >> -oac is output audio codec. I tested it on a youtube video and it >> works. > > You are correct. I am an idiot. I will now go smack myself with a > 2x4. Don't be too hard on yourself. mencoder's command line syntax is almost as confusing as sox's. ![]() I wish I could remember which package had, in the BUGS section of its manpage, "This program has even more command line switches than GNU ls." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org |
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