Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
Posting through IceDove.

Using Debian Etch/Lenny
Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnetworks who
have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to
resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing.

If I attempt to send an email to myself, or replying to the test of the satellite
provider [smtp], or anyone else. Using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7],
with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an error
message:-

Sending failed:
Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
the server:
xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
folder.

I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used
Kmail for years. This is a new twist.

Am wondering if someone might point me in the direction of a fix?

Thanks in advance,
Charlie


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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 05:12:02PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
> Posting through IceDove.

Does this mean IceDove works?

> Sending failed:
> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
> the server:
> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
> folder.

Maybe you need additional settings (AUTH, SSL, ...) for the new
provider, but only they can tell you this.

Regards,
Andrei
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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 05:12:02PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
> Posting through IceDove.

Does this mean IceDove works?

> Sending failed:
> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
> the server:
> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
> folder.

Maybe you need additional settings (AUTH, SSL, ...) for the new
provider, but only they can tell you this.

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 05:12:02PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
>
>> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
>> Posting through IceDove.
>>
>
> Does this mean IceDove works?
>
>
>> Sending failed:
>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>> the server:
>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
>> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
>> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
>> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
>> folder.
>>
>
> Maybe you need additional settings (AUTH, SSL, ...) for the new
> provider, but only they can tell you this.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
>
Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the provider,
we went through that.

Thanks for the reply.
Charlie


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Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 05:12:02PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
>
>> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
>> Posting through IceDove.
>>
>
> Does this mean IceDove works?
>
>
>> Sending failed:
>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>> the server:
>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
>> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
>> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
>> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
>> folder.
>>
>
> Maybe you need additional settings (AUTH, SSL, ...) for the new
> provider, but only they can tell you this.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
>
Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the provider,
we went through that.

Thanks for the reply.
Charlie


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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:12:56PM +1000, Charlie wrote:

>>> Posting through IceDove.
>>
>> Does this mean IceDove works?
>>
>>> Sending failed:
>>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>>> the server:
>>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
^^^^^^^
Too late, your e-mail address is already in clear in the archives

> Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the
> provider, we went through that.

The next place I'd look would be the kmail bugreports
(htts://bugs.debian.org/kmail).

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:12:56PM +1000, Charlie wrote:

>>> Posting through IceDove.
>>
>> Does this mean IceDove works?
>>
>>> Sending failed:
>>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>>> the server:
>>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
^^^^^^^
Too late, your e-mail address is already in clear in the archives

> Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the
> provider, we went through that.

The next place I'd look would be the kmail bugreports
(htts://bugs.debian.org/kmail).

Regards,
Andrei
--
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:12:56PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
>
>
>>>> Posting through IceDove.
>>>>
>>> Does this mean IceDove works?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sending failed:
>>>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>>>> the server:
>>>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
>>>>
> ^^^^^^^
> Too late, your e-mail address is already in clear in the archives
>
>
>> Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the
>> provider, we went through that.
>>
>
> The next place I'd look would be the kmail bugreports
> (htts://bugs.debian.org/kmail).
>
Couldn't reach that address

https://bugs.debian.org/kmail

Must be busy?

Thank you, will look later.
Charlie


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Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 06:12:56PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
>
>
>>>> Posting through IceDove.
>>>>
>>> Does this mean IceDove works?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sending failed:
>>>> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
>>>> the server:
>>>> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
>>>>
> ^^^^^^^
> Too late, your e-mail address is already in clear in the archives
>
>
>> Icedove does work, and there is nothing extra required for the
>> provider, we went through that.
>>
>
> The next place I'd look would be the kmail bugreports
> (htts://bugs.debian.org/kmail).
>
Couldn't reach that address

https://bugs.debian.org/kmail

Must be busy?

Thank you, will look later.
Charlie


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On Sunday 05 August 2007 02:12, Charlie wrote:
> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
> Posting through IceDove.
>
> Using Debian Etch/Lenny
> Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnetworks who
> have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to
> resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing.
>
> If I attempt to send an email to myself, or replying to the test of the
> satellite provider [smtp], or anyone else. Using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE
> 3.5.7], with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an
> error message:-
>
> Sending failed:
> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
> the server:
> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
> folder.
>
> I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used
> Kmail for years. This is a new twist.
>
> Am wondering if someone might point me in the direction of a fix?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Charlie
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just an idea: Sounds like your mail transport agent app (exim4, sendmail,
maybe) is set up to send mail via a relay server instead of being set up to
act as your own smtp server. If that is correct then you need to reset it to
be the smtp server for your system, if you are using static IPs and have your
own domain name. The other alternative is to use the clearnet smtp server as
yours and disregard the mail transport issue (much simpler, especially if
your system is using DHCP nameserving from Clearnet. In that case you simply
set up all of your mail readers icedove, kmail, etc. to use for
example "mail.clearmail.com.au" or what ever they tell you is their
mailserver name. If this works use it, it's more reliable in most cases, they
have massive back up :-) I have a similar set up with verizon smtp is set
to incoming.verizon.net for receiving and set to outgoing.verizon.net for
sending and I have exim 4 installed to manage local mail and also serve as my
domainnames smtp server. I also run teapop for pop3 on my local server. Thus
I have two mailing addresses #####@verizon.net for the main mail to which I
have kmail set up, and #####@ my.domain.name for local and very private mail.
I hope this s!
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On Sunday 05 August 2007 02:12, Charlie wrote:
> Posted this to Debian-KDE list without reply. Hope to get some ideas here.
> Posting through IceDove.
>
> Using Debian Etch/Lenny
> Have just been connected to satellite internet provider Clearnetworks who
> have some Linux capable techs on their staff, but have not been able to
> resolve a problem with Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE 3.5.7] in Debian testing.
>
> If I attempt to send an email to myself, or replying to the test of the
> satellite provider [smtp], or anyone else. Using Kmail 1.9.5 [using KDE
> 3.5.7], with the new email address after setting the accounts up, I get an
> error message:-
>
> Sending failed:
> Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by
> the server:
> xxxxxxx@clearmail.com.au (The server responded: "relaying mail to
> clearmail.com.au is not allowed")
> The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the
> problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox'
> folder.
>
> I have no problem sending through the old dialup provider and have used
> Kmail for years. This is a new twist.
>
> Am wondering if someone might point me in the direction of a fix?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Charlie
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just an idea: Sounds like your mail transport agent app (exim4, sendmail,
maybe) is set up to send mail via a relay server instead of being set up to
act as your own smtp server. If that is correct then you need to reset it to
be the smtp server for your system, if you are using static IPs and have your
own domain name. The other alternative is to use the clearnet smtp server as
yours and disregard the mail transport issue (much simpler, especially if
your system is using DHCP nameserving from Clearnet. In that case you simply
set up all of your mail readers icedove, kmail, etc. to use for
example "mail.clearmail.com.au" or what ever they tell you is their
mailserver name. If this works use it, it's more reliable in most cases, they
have massive back up :-) I have a similar set up with verizon smtp is set
to incoming.verizon.net for receiving and set to outgoing.verizon.net for
sending and I have exim 4 installed to manage local mail and also serve as my
domainnames smtp server. I also run teapop for pop3 on my local server. Thus
I have two mailing addresses #####@verizon.net for the main mail to which I
have kmail set up, and #####@ my.domain.name for local and very private mail.
I hope this s!
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