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Vieux 27/07/2007, 15h00   #1
Martin Marcher
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Hello,

in our company we have mac/linux/windows clients and I think about
adding the native service for each of those. the clients aren't under
my control but can be considered as trusted.

I know that samba+mac does work (to some extent) but I'm thinking
about adding netatalk so that mac users have a more native feeling
with all this (automagic share exploration, etc). My worries are
wether locking issues could occur. samba+nfs is working seamlessly
(nfs opened files are locked and samba das know about that) but does
afp also honor kernel oplocks, especially with this combination?

thanks
martin


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Vieux 27/07/2007, 18h50   #2
Andrew Sackville-West
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 02:59:05PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
>
> I know that samba+mac does work (to some extent) but I'm thinking
> about adding netatalk so that mac users have a more native feeling
> with all this (automagic share exploration, etc). My worries are
> wether locking issues could occur. samba+nfs is working seamlessly
> (nfs opened files are locked and samba das know about that) but does
> afp also honor kernel oplocks, especially with this combination?


can't answer your question directly, but doesn't apple support nfs?

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Vieux 27/07/2007, 21h40   #3
Gilles Mocellin
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Le Friday 27 July 2007 18:45:13 Andrew Sackville-West, vous avez écrit:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 02:59:05PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
> > I know that samba+mac does work (to some extent) but I'm thinking
> > about adding netatalk so that mac users have a more native feeling
> > with all this (automagic share exploration, etc). My worries are
> > wether locking issues could occur. samba+nfs is working seamlessly
> > (nfs opened files are locked and samba das know about that) but does
> > afp also honor kernel oplocks, especially with this combination?

>
> can't answer your question directly, but doesn't apple support nfs?
>
> A


And SMB...

Sadly, the common denominator between common computers (Windows/MacOS X/Unix)
is SMB filesharing (MS shares, Samba)...


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Vieux 27/07/2007, 22h30   #4
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On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Martin Marcher wrote:

> Hello,
>
> in our company we have mac/linux/windows clients and I think about
> adding the native service for each of those. the clients aren't under
> my control but can be considered as trusted.
>
> I know that samba+mac does work (to some extent) but I'm thinking
> about adding netatalk so that mac users have a more native feeling
> with all this (automagic share exploration, etc). My worries are
> wether locking issues could occur. samba+nfs is working seamlessly
> (nfs opened files are locked and samba das know about that) but does
> afp also honor kernel oplocks, especially with this combination?
>
> thanks
> martin


I don't know if the AFS implementation available in Debian Etch has
support for files larger than 2 GB. You should check that before you
turn your users loose on it.

Rick


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Vieux 30/07/2007, 19h40   #5
Martin Marcher
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hi,

On 7/27/07, Gilles Mocellin <gilles.mocellin@free.fr> wrote:
> Le Friday 27 July 2007 18:45:13 Andrew Sackville-West, vous avez écrit:
> >
> > can't answer your question directly, but doesn't apple support nfs?


yes

>
> And SMB...


and yes (somewhat)

the reason why i'd like to use netatalk too is that it should provide
native browsing capabilities to mac clients (like users have with
windows explorer and samba servers). I have to run around each day
just to type in the correct URI because people are to lazy to

a) either read the FAQ which lists all shares available or
b) are just to lazy to enter them

martin
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