Please,

I am trying to do a fresh install of etch on an IBM T40.

Startx reports:

could not open default font 'fixed'

grep "(EE)" of the /var/log/xorg files gives:

(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

Where can I get an xorg.conf file that just works ? There is nothing
special about this T40. It is fresh out of the box.

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> Please,
>
> I am trying to do a fresh install of etch on an IBM T40.
>
> Startx reports:
>
> could not open default font 'fixed'
>
> grep "(EE)" of the /var/log/xorg files gives:
>
> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
>
> Where can I get an xorg.conf file that just works ? There is nothing
> special about this T40. It is fresh out of the box.
>

In my T40 xorg.conf i have

# Load "dri"

At the bottom of the conf file add

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AIGLX" "off"
EndSection

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On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:47:33AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> In my T40 xorg.conf i have
>
> # Load "dri"
>
> At the bottom of the conf file add
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
> Option "AIGLX" "off"
> EndSection

OK, with those changes in place, I now get:

(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"

I have tried every combination of /dev/*anythinglikeamouse*, all to no
avail.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 20:57:26 +0100, debian wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:47:33AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
>
> > In my T40 xorg.conf i have
> >
> > # Load "dri"
> >
> > At the bottom of the conf file add
> >
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option "AIGLX" "off"
> > EndSection
>
> OK, with those changes in place, I now get:
>
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
>
> I have tried every combination of /dev/*anythinglikeamouse*, all to no
> avail.

Please post the output of

ls -l /dev/input/{,by-id/}

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> On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:47:33AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
>
> > In my T40 xorg.conf i have
> >
> > # Load "dri"
> >
> > At the bottom of the conf file add
> >
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option "AIGLX" "off"
> > EndSection
>
> OK, with those changes in place, I now get:
>
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
>
> I have tried every combination of /dev/*anythinglikeamouse*, all to no
> avail.

If you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed, you have a problem
with the InputDevice section of your xorg.conf. Now I found plenty of
examples on Google, but to save you time, here's mine.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
EndSection


You also need to install
xserver-xorg-input synaptics (touchpad)
xserver-xorg-video-ati (ATI Display Driver)
and/or
xserver-xorg-video-vesa (in case the ati package doesn't work for you)

Thats about it.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:35:42PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> Please post the output of
>
> ls -l /dev/input/{,by-id/}

/dev/input/:
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 64 2005-02-26 06:43 event0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 65 2005-02-26 06:43 event1
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 66 2005-02-26 06:43 event2
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 67 2005-02-26 06:43 event3
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 0 2005-02-26 06:43 js0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 1 2005-02-26 06:43 js1
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 2 2005-02-26 06:43 js2
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 3 2005-02-26 06:43 js3
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2005-02-26 06:43 mice
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 32 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 33 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse1
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 34 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse2
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 35 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse3

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> If you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed, you have a problem

installed already

> with the InputDevice section of your xorg.conf. Now I found plenty of
> examples on Google, but to save you time, here's mine.
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Configured Mouse"
> Driver "mouse"
> Option "CorePointer"
> Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
> EndSection

done, same error :-(

> You also need to install
> xserver-xorg-input synaptics (touchpad)
> xserver-xorg-video-ati (ATI Display Driver)
> and/or
> xserver-xorg-video-vesa (in case the ati package doesn't work for you)

all done.

> Thats about it.

I am worried that I am still missing something.

When doing the installation, just after the part where installer
configures apt, I got an error. dmesg reported that the cdrom could
not be opened, this was despite the fact that I had told the installer
that I wanted to use http:debian.uk only.

I had to choose and install packages thereafter "manually", using aptitude.

Thanks again.

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> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
>
> > If you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed, you have a problem
>
> installed already
>
> > with the InputDevice section of your xorg.conf. Now I found plenty of
> > examples on Google, but to save you time, here's mine.
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier "Configured Mouse"
> > Driver "mouse"
> > Option "CorePointer"
> > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> > Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
> > EndSection
>
> done, same error :-(
>
> > You also need to install
> > xserver-xorg-input synaptics (touchpad)
> > xserver-xorg-video-ati (ATI Display Driver)
> > and/or
> > xserver-xorg-video-vesa (in case the ati package doesn't work for you)
>
> all done.
>
> > Thats about it.
>
> I am worried that I am still missing something.
>

Ok, lets see. Here are all of the Xorg packages I have installed on
my T40.

xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-vesa

If you have all of them loaded then try aptitude and search for these
packages, If one has a dependancy required, aptitude should show it.

aptitude -f install might just pick up what you are missing as well.
Worth a try anyway.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 07:33:15PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:

> xserver-xorg
> xserver-xorg-core
> xserver-xorg-input-evdev
> xserver-xorg-input-kbd
> xserver-xorg-input-mouse
> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
> xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-vesa
>
> If you have all of them loaded then try aptitude and search for these
> packages, If one has a dependancy required, aptitude should show it.
>
> aptitude -f install might just pick up what you are missing as well.

Fascinating: both aptitude and apt are quite happy with all these.

Perhaps I have a hw problem. I did not have any of these difficulties
with my X30 install.

Thanks

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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 07:19:33AM +0100, debian wrote:

> Perhaps I have a hw problem. I did not have any of these difficulties
> with my X30 install.

Nah, this dosen't make sense. I can boot Knoppix and everything is
fine, using xfree86.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 23:24:14 +0100, debian wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:35:42PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> > Please post the output of
> >
> > ls -l /dev/input/{,by-id/}
>
> /dev/input/:
> total 0
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 64 2005-02-26 06:43 event0
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 65 2005-02-26 06:43 event1
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 66 2005-02-26 06:43 event2
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 67 2005-02-26 06:43 event3
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 0 2005-02-26 06:43 js0
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 1 2005-02-26 06:43 js1
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 2 2005-02-26 06:43 js2
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 3 2005-02-26 06:43 js3
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2005-02-26 06:43 mice
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 32 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse0
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 33 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse1
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 34 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse2
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 35 2005-02-26 06:43 mouse3

I am a bit surprised that you don't have /dev/input/by-id and
/dev/input/by-path. This may indicate a udev problem or that some
modules have not been loaded. Try

modprobe psmouse
modprobe evdev

Then you can check the mice/mouse devices in /dev/input by running, e.g.

cat /dev/input/mice | hd

and wiggling the mouse. If you have the right device then you should see
output when the mouse is moved. This test works without X but you have
to be root to read the /dev/input/ devices directly like that. (You can
use CTRL + C to exit from this.)

Once you find the right device you can put that in your xorg.conf.
Report back if you cannot find any working mouse device even with those
modules loaded; we will have to look at a few other things then.

You can also use AllowMouseOpenFail (see "man xorg.conf") for now to
make X start without a mouse. This will at least tell you if the mouse
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On Tuesday 01 May 2007 19:33, Wayne Topa wrote:
[snip]
> Ok, lets see. Here are all of the Xorg packages I have installed on
> my T40.
>
> xserver-xorg
> xserver-xorg-core
> xserver-xorg-input-evdev
> xserver-xorg-input-kbd
> xserver-xorg-input-mouse
> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
> xserver-xorg-video-ati
> xserver-xorg-video-vesa
>
> If you have all of them loaded then try aptitude and search for these
> packages, If one has a dependancy required, aptitude should show it.
>
> aptitude -f install might just pick up what you are missing as well.
> Worth a try anyway.
>
> Wayne
>
If aptitude -f doesn't figure things out, try editing the potentially corrupt
CD-ROM out of your sources.list, and just use a Internet mirror. Then run
apt-get install --reinstall PACKAGES.

Once you have them 100% for sure installed correctly, run dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xorg and see where that leaves.

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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 08:56:56AM -0400, Matthew K Poer wrote:

> If aptitude -f doesn't figure things out, try editing the potentially corrupt
> CD-ROM out of your sources.list, and just use a Internet mirror. Then run

I used the cd from the Linux Bible.

> apt-get install --reinstall PACKAGES.

by PACKAGES, I assume you mean xserver-xorg.

> Once you have them 100% for sure installed correctly, run dpkg-reconfigure
> xserver-xorg and see where that leaves.

Still no joy.

Is there any way I can run something like:

apt-get install --reinstall -all-packages-for-a-default-installation ?

I suspect that I am dealing here with a partially installed system.

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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:23:19AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> modprobe psmouse
> modprobe evdev

done and feature in outpuf of lsmod.

> Then you can check the mice/mouse devices in /dev/input by running, e.g.
>
> cat /dev/input/mice | hd

################################################## ################
ibm2:/tmp# cat /dev/input/mice | hd
cat: /dev/input/mice: No such device
ibm2:/tmp# ls -l /dev/input/mice
crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2005-02-26 06:43 /dev/input/mice
ibm2:/tmp#
################################################## ################

> You can also use AllowMouseOpenFail (see "man xorg.conf") for now to
> make X start without a mouse. This will at least tell you if the mouse
> device is the only thing that is a problem at the moment.

with this in place, I have no EE's, but in /var/log/Xorg.0.log I have:

################################################## ################
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) FontPath is completely invalid. Using compiled-in default.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
(==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
(**) Option "AIGLX" "off"

.....

Synaptics DeviceInit called
SynapticsCtrl called.
Synaptics DeviceOn called
(--) Synaptics Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event1
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
(--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
################################################## ################

My suspicions are that I am dealing with a partially installed system.

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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 20:24:16 +0100, debian wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 10:23:19AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> > modprobe psmouse
> > modprobe evdev
>
> done and feature in outpuf of lsmod.
>
> > Then you can check the mice/mouse devices in /dev/input by running, e.g.
> >
> > cat /dev/input/mice | hd
>
> ################################################## ################
> ibm2:/tmp# cat /dev/input/mice | hd
> cat: /dev/input/mice: No such device
> ibm2:/tmp# ls -l /dev/input/mice
> crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 63 2005-02-26 06:43 /dev/input/mice

That is really strange.

> > You can also use AllowMouseOpenFail (see "man xorg.conf") for now to
> > make X start without a mouse. This will at least tell you if the mouse
> > device is the only thing that is a problem at the moment.
>
> with this in place, I have no EE's, but in /var/log/Xorg.0.log I have:

[...]

> Synaptics DeviceInit called
> SynapticsCtrl called.
> Synaptics DeviceOn called
> (--) Synaptics Touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event1
> (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
> (--) Synaptics Touchpad touchpad found

At least it seems to find the touchpad.

> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list!
> Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!
>
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> ################################################## ################
>
> My suspicions are that I am dealing with a partially installed system.

As far as problems with device nodes go: udev is the usual suspect. To
check the status of your system, we need to see the output of these
two commands:

dpkg -l udev hotplug linux-image-2.6\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'

mount | grep udev

The first step to figuring out the font issue is this one:

dpkg -l xfont\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'

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On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 09:59:53PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> As far as problems with device nodes go: udev is the usual suspect. To

Yes, you were absolutely correct Florian:

apt-get install udev*

did the trick.

> dpkg -l xfont\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}'

Correct once again.

apt-get install xfont*

fixed the problem.

Thanks a lot.

I am now on the road.

Joe


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