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Vieux 10/04/2007, 17h20   #1
Dan H.
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Hello,

the most recent etch upgrade broke the Opera web browser (I think
because of new X libs). Googled for a fix and found one, downloaded the
newest debs (v9.20) from opera.org.

Unfortunately at first the .deb wouldn't install due to an unsatisfied
dependency on libqt3c102-mt, which doesn't seem to be in etch. I
thought, fuck it, Opera didn't need that package yesterday so it won't
need it today and forced the installation of opera using dpkg's -f
option. All went fine and Opera works.

But.

Then I wanted to install stuff using aptitude, and upon hitting 'g',
aptitude dutifully informed me that opera was broken and insisted on its
removal. Is there a possibility to flag a package to apt as "it works,
so leave it alone and stop bitching"?

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Vieux 10/04/2007, 17h40   #2
Mathias Brodala
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Hi Dan.

Dan H., 10.04.2007 18:06:
> the most recent etch upgrade broke the Opera web browser (I think
> because of new X libs). Googled for a fix and found one, downloaded the
> newest debs (v9.20) from opera.org.


Which one exactly?

> Unfortunately at first the .deb wouldn't install due to an unsatisfied
> dependency on libqt3c102-mt, which doesn't seem to be in etch.


There is no such package in the whole wide Debian world. Which package exactly
were you trying to install? None of the three hotfixes has such a dependency:

> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.3), xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs | libxmu6, libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4), libstdc++6


The package "libtqt3-mt" does exist in Etch.

> I
> thought, fuck it, Opera didn't need that package yesterday so it won't
> need it today and forced the installation of opera using dpkg's -f
> option. All went fine and Opera works.


Forcing something should be the last resort. You first should have lookedaround
in the web and post into the Blog[0] to clear things up.

> Then I wanted to install stuff using aptitude, and upon hitting 'g',
> aptitude dutifully informed me that opera was broken and insisted on its
> removal. Is there a possibility to flag a package to apt as "it works,
> so leave it alone and stop bitching"?


Maybe the following?

# aptitude keep-all


Regards, Mathias

[0] http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

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Vieux 10/04/2007, 20h30   #3
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Hi.

Nyizsnyik Ferenc, 10.04.2007 21:12:
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:34:23 +0200
> Mathias Brodala <info@noctus.net> wrote:
>> Dan H., 10.04.2007 18:06:
>>> the most recent etch upgrade broke the Opera web browser (I think
>>> because of new X libs). Googled for a fix and found one, downloaded
>>> the newest debs (v9.20) from opera.org.

> [...]
>
> I tried 9.10 and 9.20. Both of them installs without dependency
> problems, but segmentation faults on start. I chose the "Debian Testing
> (Etch)" option. I suggest trying "Other static .DEB" also.


For Opera to work with libx11-6 >= 2:1.0.3-7 you MUST install the latest weekly
or lower your DefaultDepth to 16. That’s what this whole turmoil is about.


Regards, Mathias

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Vieux 10/04/2007, 21h20   #4
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:06:27 +0200
"Dan H." <dunno@stoptrick.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> the most recent etch upgrade broke the Opera web browser (I think
> because of new X libs). Googled for a fix and found one,
> downloaded the newest debs (v9.20) from opera.org.
>
> Unfortunately at first the .deb wouldn't install due to an
> unsatisfied dependency on libqt3c102-mt, which doesn't seem to be
> in etch. I thought, fuck it, Opera didn't need that package
> yesterday so it won't need it today and forced the installation of
> opera using dpkg's -f option. All went fine and Opera works.
>
> But.
>
> Then I wanted to install stuff using aptitude, and upon hitting
> 'g', aptitude dutifully informed me that opera was broken and
> insisted on its removal. Is there a possibility to flag a package
> to apt as "it works, so leave it alone and stop bitching"?
>
> --D.
>
>


aptitude hold <pkgname>

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Vieux 11/04/2007, 13h00   #5
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Hello Dan.

Please reply directly to the list. Search for "Thunderbird reply to list"and
you’ll find a lot of info.

Dan H., 11.04.2007 13:46:
> Mathias Brodala wrote:
>
>> Which one exactly?

>
> opera_9.20-20070407.5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb


Is there a reason you don’t want the version compiled with gcc-4.0?

And indeed, this package does have such a dependency, maybe because it was built
on a RedHat system.

Try this one instead: opera_9.20-20070407.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
^

This has been built with gcc-4.0 and has normal dependencies. You should always
take the .6 version.


Regards, Mathias

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Vieux 11/04/2007, 14h20   #6
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Mathias Brodala wrote:

> Please reply directly to the list.


Sorry. I normally do. A slip. Anyway; just today Opera officially
released v. 9.20; I installed it and all is fine.

Thanks for the ,

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Vieux 11/04/2007, 14h30   #7
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Hi Dan.

Dan H., 11.04.2007 15:18:
> Mathias Brodala wrote:
>
>> Please reply directly to the list.

>
> Sorry. I normally do. A slip.


No problem.

> Anyway; just today Opera officially
> released v. 9.20; I installed it and all is fine.


Geez, you’re even faster than my Newsfeeds; gotta get the new version, thanks.


Regards, Mathias

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