Hi,

I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)

Celejar


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Celejar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
> I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
> little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
> clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
> alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
> the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
> recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
>
> Celejar
>
Blogger Beta, or Blogger 2, or whatever it is called now, drastically
changed the API. They moved from static to database-driven posting,
changed the template system, etc. The change even broke Google's own
Picasa's "Post Photos to Blog" functionality. If there is a debian
packaged-client for Blogger, it sure won't be in stable.

But then, Blogger isn't OSS anyway. Wordpress is. I recommend it
completely over anything else out there. You can use wordpress.com, or
get a free web host and do it yourself (recommended). Installation is
almost 100% automatic from the wordpress-version#.tar.gz file. And
actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
or whatever you may have used before.

I like WP. I feel compelled to share my WP Love banner:
http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/WPdedication.gif

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On 3/29/07, Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Blogger Beta, or Blogger 2, or whatever it is called now, drastically
> changed the API. They moved from static to database-driven posting,
> changed the template system, etc. The change even broke Google's own
> Picasa's "Post Photos to Blog" functionality. If there is a debian
> packaged-client for Blogger, it sure won't be in stable.

The change to a database really screwed over my ability to back up my
blog to my harddrive. A "wget --mirror" goes into an apparently
infinite hell of auto-generated query-string URLS.

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On 3/29/07, KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> PS: Ideally, blogger should give an export feature for those who are
> dissatisfied with their service. /me ducks

Actually, *any* Internet-based service that stores data for users
should provide a mechanism for those users to export their data. That
should be a part of terminating service (and should perhaps be written
into law), and it would certainly be nice if they made it a backup
option during continuous service. After all, whose data is it?

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Matthew K Poer wrote:
> And
> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
> or whatever you may have used before.
>
The so called "upgrade" to beta or Blogger 2 has rendered Wordpress's
blogger import functionality useless too. I checked a couple of weeks
back and it said that the functionality only works with the old blogger
API. As soon as the import feature works, I am going to do that and
shift the whole stuff to WP.

/KS

PS: Ideally, blogger should give an export feature for those who are
dissatisfied with their service. /me ducks


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KS wrote:
> Matthew K Poer wrote:
>> And
>> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
>> or whatever you may have used before.
>>
> The so called "upgrade" to beta or Blogger 2 has rendered Wordpress's
> blogger import functionality useless too. I checked a couple of weeks
> back and it said that the functionality only works with the old blogger
> API. As soon as the import feature works, I am going to do that and
> shift the whole stuff to WP.
>
> /KS
>
> PS: Ideally, blogger should give an export feature for those who are
> dissatisfied with their service. /me ducks

Isn't there a way to import an Atom or RSS feed from Blogger into WP? I
think I did that once... maybe it was a plugin?


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On 3/29/07, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:16:04 -0400
> "Michael Marsh" <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Actually, *any* Internet-based service that stores data for users
> > should provide a mechanism for those users to export their data. That
> > should be a part of terminating service (and should perhaps be written
> > into law), and it would certainly be nice if they made it a backup
> > option during continuous service. After all, whose data is it?
>
> I agree with you about it being the right thing to do, but I don't know
> about a law. No one forces you to use its service.

That's true, sort-of. As more users use more online services that
store their personal data, the line is going to increasingly become
blurred between what's on *your* computer and what's on a *service's*
computer. Most people won't necessarily appreciate the fact that
they've lost direct control over their data.

This is, I think, dangerously close to going far afield into Offtopicopia.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:16:04 -0400
"Michael Marsh" <michael.a.marsh@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/29/07, KS <lists04@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > PS: Ideally, blogger should give an export feature for those who are
> > dissatisfied with their service. /me ducks
>
> Actually, *any* Internet-based service that stores data for users
> should provide a mechanism for those users to export their data. That
> should be a part of terminating service (and should perhaps be written
> into law), and it would certainly be nice if they made it a backup
> option during continuous service. After all, whose data is it?

I agree with you about it being the right thing to do, but I don't know
about a law. No one forces you to use its service.

Celejar


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Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:50:58 -0400
> Matthew K Poer <matthewpoer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Celejar wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
>>> I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
>>> little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
>>> clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
>>> alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
>>> the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
>>> recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
>>>
>>> Celejar
>>>
>> Blogger Beta, or Blogger 2, or whatever it is called now, drastically
>> changed the API. They moved from static to database-driven posting,
>> changed the template system, etc. The change even broke Google's own
>> Picasa's "Post Photos to Blog" functionality. If there is a debian
>> packaged-client for Blogger, it sure won't be in stable.
>
> Thanks; I basically gathered as much, but you've confirmed it. I saw
> the Picasa fumble on one of Google's Blogger blogs. I'm using unstale,
> but I believe the upstream hasn't updates the clients yet (BloGTK
> specifically mentions the issue in its FAQ).
>> But then, Blogger isn't OSS anyway. Wordpress is. I recommend it
>> completely over anything else out there. You can use wordpress.com, or
>> get a free web host and do it yourself (recommended). Installation is
>> almost 100% automatic from the wordpress-version#.tar.gz file. And
>> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
>> or whatever you may have used before.
>>
>> I like WP. I feel compelled to share my WP Love banner:
>> http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/WPdedication.gif
>
> I was quite interested in WP, partly due to its open-sourceness; I'm
> not completely sure why I started with Blogger. I'll definitely take
> another look at it. Thanks also to the pointer to free web hosting. I
> see you use Freehostia. Are you happy with it? I see it has quite good
> reviews [0]. Do you or anyone else have anything to say on the pros and
> cons of Freehostia or any other free web hosting service? Any
> recommendations / warnings?
>
> Thanks again,
> Celejar
>
> [0] http://www.free-webhosts.com/reviews/FreeHostia.php
>

Yes, I am using FreeHostia. What can I say? It's free. I've yet to
notice a downtime in the past two/three months. Control Panel works.
They run LAMP (Debian, I think...). For free, you get (trying to
remember) a gig of space, 1 MySQL database, PHP/CGI useage, access to
whatever scripts they have on CP. FTP access, no SSH/SFTP. Free subdomain.

No complaints here.

For WP, it is OSS. Plus it's in [simple and organized] PHP, so if you do
find a bug or something you do not like, you can fix it. There are many
plugins around the 'net to choose from, as well as templates.


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On 29 Mar 2007, Matthew K Poer wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
[snip]
>
> But then, Blogger isn't OSS anyway. Wordpress is. I recommend it
> completely over anything else out there. You can use wordpress.com, or
> get a free web host and do it yourself (recommended). Installation is
> almost 100% automatic from the wordpress-version#.tar.gz file. And
> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
> or whatever you may have used before.
>
> I like WP. I feel compelled to share my WP Love banner:
> http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/WPdedication.gif
>

I used WP for quite a time but eventually something went wrong with its
password and I could no longer edit anything or post. So I changed to
Serendipity and have found it a better choice.

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Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 29 Mar 2007, Matthew K Poer wrote:
>> Celejar wrote:
> [snip]
>> But then, Blogger isn't OSS anyway. Wordpress is. I recommend it
>> completely over anything else out there. You can use wordpress.com, or
>> get a free web host and do it yourself (recommended). Installation is
>> almost 100% automatic from the wordpress-version#.tar.gz file. And
>> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
>> or whatever you may have used before.
>>
>> I like WP. I feel compelled to share my WP Love banner:
>> http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/WPdedication.gif
>>
>
> I used WP for quite a time but eventually something went wrong with its
> password and I could no longer edit anything or post. So I changed to
> Serendipity and have found it a better choice.
>
> Anthony
>
You could always md5 a new password, then manually edit your database
(with mysql client or PHPMyAdmin). Also, doesn't WP have a Reset
Password function?

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On 30 Mar 2007, Matthew K Poer wrote:
> Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 29 Mar 2007, Matthew K Poer wrote:
> >> Celejar wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> But then, Blogger isn't OSS anyway. Wordpress is. I recommend it
> >> completely over anything else out there. You can use wordpress.com, or
> >> get a free web host and do it yourself (recommended). Installation is
> >> almost 100% automatic from the wordpress-version#.tar.gz file. And
> >> actually, it should be able to import your blogger posts, or typepad,
> >> or whatever you may have used before.
> >>
> >> I like WP. I feel compelled to share my WP Love banner:
> >> http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/WPdedication.gif
> >>
> >
> > I used WP for quite a time but eventually something went wrong with its
> > password and I could no longer edit anything or post. So I changed to
> > Serendipity and have found it a better choice.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> You could always md5 a new password, then manually edit your database
> (with mysql client or PHPMyAdmin). Also, doesn't WP have a Reset
> Password function?
>
> --
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I tried all of this at the time but none of it seemed to work. I could
still access the database but WP no longer could. Anyhow, now that I've
moved to Serendipity I find I prefer it. One good thing about it is that
the main author is regularly on the users' forum so if problems arise
you get answers straight from the horse's mouth.

Anthony

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:07 +0200, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
> I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
> little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
> clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
> alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
> the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
> recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
>
> Celejar
>
>
Hi-

I've had my own wordpress.org blog until that system went south. Then I
moved over to wordpress.com. I would strongly recommend wordpress.com
for a few reasons. I had almost 2 years of blogposts and they placed
them into my account cheerfully. I could not do it myself due to me
only keeping mysql backups. But you asked about blog clients. I've
tried a few:

performancing - this is a firefox addon which works very nicely here
with wordpress.com.

drivel - drivel is nice but I cannot seem to make it post with more than
one category selected.

jblogeditor - you need java installed but it works very nicely on
wordpress blogs

bleezer - you need java for this one too; but I really like it a lot.
Its being actively developed so you may find things which work and
others which don't; but its a pretty nice blog client all in all.

blogtk - this one seems frozen in time at the 1.1 release or so. I gave
up on it after a year of no updates.

You may find that performancing works with the new blogger. It gets
updated quite often; but if I had my choices, I'd change over to
wordpress.

At a purely personal level, we need to have better offline blog clients
that compare with some of the windows ones like blogjet or wbloggar or
ecto.

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Michael Perry wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:07 +0200, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
>> I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
>> little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
>> clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
>> alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
>> the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
>> recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
>>
>> Celejar
>>
>>
> Hi-
>
> I've had my own wordpress.org blog until that system went south. Then I


Yest that's the one as a Sid package. How did they go south?

Hugo


> moved over to wordpress.com. I would strongly recommend wordpress.com
> for a few reasons. I had almost 2 years of blogposts and they placed
> them into my account cheerfully. I could not do it myself due to me
> only keeping mysql backups. But you asked about blog clients. I've
> tried a few:
>
> performancing - this is a firefox addon which works very nicely here
> with wordpress.com.
>
> drivel - drivel is nice but I cannot seem to make it post with more than
> one category selected.
>
> jblogeditor - you need java installed but it works very nicely on
> wordpress blogs
>
> bleezer - you need java for this one too; but I really like it a lot.
> Its being actively developed so you may find things which work and
> others which don't; but its a pretty nice blog client all in all.
>
> blogtk - this one seems frozen in time at the 1.1 release or so. I gave
> up on it after a year of no updates.
>
> You may find that performancing works with the new blogger. It gets
> updated quite often; but if I had my choices, I'd change over to
> wordpress.
>
> At a purely personal level, we need to have better offline blog clients
> that compare with some of the windows ones like blogjet or wbloggar or
> ecto.
>
> Take care.
>


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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:48:39 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> wrote:

> Michael Perry wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:07 +0200, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
> >> I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
> >> little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
> >> clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
> >> alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
> >> the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
> >> recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
> >>
> >> Celejar
> >>
> >>
> > Hi-
> >
> > I've had my own wordpress.org blog until that system went south. Then I
>
>
> Yest that's the one as a Sid package. How did they go south?

Wordpress.org currently offers only software (which is indeed in Sid,
and available for download from their website. They don't, however,
offer hosting. For that you need wordpress.com, which does run a
version of wordpress, but gives you limited control over it [0].

Celejar

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On 1 Apr 2007 00:14:54 GMT
Michael Perry <mperry@lnxpowered.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:07 +0200, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to use various blog posting clients with a new Blogger blog.
> > I've tried BloGTK and Drivel, and they have ca't connect to Blogger. A
> > little (a lot) of Googling shows me that the new API has broken old
> > clients, but I'm unable to figure out if there's a workaround, or an
> > alternative solution. Is anyone using a linux client successfully with
> > the new Blogger? Is there another free blog hosting site you'd
> > recommend? (I may try Wordpress.com.)
> >
> > Celejar
> >
> >
> Hi-
>
> I've had my own wordpress.org blog until that system went south. Then I
> moved over to wordpress.com. I would strongly recommend wordpress.com
> for a few reasons. I had almost 2 years of blogposts and they placed
> them into my account cheerfully. I could not do it myself due to me
> only keeping mysql backups. But you asked about blog clients. I've
> tried a few:
>
> performancing - this is a firefox addon which works very nicely here
> with wordpress.com.
>
> drivel - drivel is nice but I cannot seem to make it post with more than
> one category selected.
>
> jblogeditor - you need java installed but it works very nicely on
> wordpress blogs
>
> bleezer - you need java for this one too; but I really like it a lot.
> Its being actively developed so you may find things which work and
> others which don't; but its a pretty nice blog client all in all.
>
> blogtk - this one seems frozen in time at the 1.1 release or so. I gave
> up on it after a year of no updates.
>
> You may find that performancing works with the new blogger. It gets
> updated quite often; but if I had my choices, I'd change over to
> wordpress.
>
> At a purely personal level, we need to have better offline blog clients
> that compare with some of the windows ones like blogjet or wbloggar or
> ecto.

Thanks, everyone, for your tips. I opened a free web hosting account
with Freehostia, downloaded wordpress, configured it and uploaded it to
my wordpress host. I now seem to have a working, if basic blog. I'm
going to play with it to see what I can do, using the wordpress
interface as well as blogtk and drivel. I would rather not use anything
Java based. Perhaps I'll look at performancing too, although I'd rather
a dedicated client that a browser addon. Thanks again, everyone.

Celejar


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