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Passed to me by a colleague:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm

*grin*

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On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote:
> Passed to me by a colleague:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
>
> *grin*

There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more
expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't
sell ad space on a Linux desktop).

Thus, sales will be low and Dell will be justified in considering
the project a failure.

In /. terms, itsatrap.

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:

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> On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote:
> > Passed to me by a colleague:
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
> >
> > *grin*
>
> There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more
> expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't
> sell ad space on a Linux desktop).
>
> Thus, sales will be low and Dell will be justified in considering
> the project a failure.
>
> In /. terms, itsatrap.

That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do
linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows license. I suppose
they're targeting people who want the convenience, not the cost saving.
I'd actually rather do the install myself, to customize it properly, so
I suppose what I really want is a no OS box, cheaper by the cost of a
Windows license from the equivalent Windows one. I believe that they
offered no OS boxes (with FreeDos, IIRC) at least at one point, but I
don't think they were cheaper than the Windows ones.

Celejar


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On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote:
> Passed to me by a colleague:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
>
> *grin*

I'm not cheering just yet, but I am being cautiously optimistic. From
reading this, it seems like Dell maybe, maybe, have got the message
right;

"Dell recognizes the importance of open source, GPL-licensed
drivers which are maintained upstream in kernel.org. They allow
users the widest choice of Linux distributions, effectively
taking the specific hardware and distribution out of the
decision-making process and let you focus on solving your
business problems. We will work with our hardware partners to
develop, test, and maintain Free drivers, and continue to make
progress towards that goal for all drivers."

From http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...3/28/9655.aspx

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On Thu March 29 2007 06:55, Paul Walsh wrote:
> Passed to me by a colleague:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
>
> *grin*

My laptop has had linux on it for a couple of years already. If Dell can
deliver a laptop/desktop with compatible hardware this will be a good thing.
I've always found it difficult to determine what hardware (printers/tv
cards/wireless and the like) I can use with linux.


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On 03/29/07 09:26, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
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>> On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote:
>>> Passed to me by a colleague:
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
>>>
>>> *grin*
>> There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more
>> expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't
>> sell ad space on a Linux desktop).
>>
>> Thus, sales will be low and Dell will be justified in considering
>> the project a failure.
>>
>> In /. terms, itsatrap.
>
> That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do
> linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows license. I suppose
> they're targeting people who want the convenience, not the cost saving.
> I'd actually rather do the install myself, to customize it properly, so
> I suppose what I really want is a no OS box, cheaper by the cost of a
> Windows license from the equivalent Windows one.

But not subsidized by advertising space sold to other companies.

> I believe that they
> offered no OS boxes (with FreeDos, IIRC) at least at one point, but I
> don't think they were cheaper than the Windows ones.
>
> Celejar
>
>


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On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote:
>> Passed to me by a colleague:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
>>
>> *grin*
>
> I'm not cheering just yet, but I am being cautiously optimistic. From
> reading this, it seems like Dell maybe, maybe, have got the message
> right;
>
> "Dell recognizes the importance of open source, GPL-licensed
> drivers which are maintained upstream in kernel.org. They allow
> users the widest choice of Linux distributions, effectively
> taking the specific hardware and distribution out of the
> decision-making process and let you focus on solving your
> business problems. We will work with our hardware partners to
> develop, test, and maintain Free drivers, and continue to make
> progress towards that goal for all drivers."

Now *that* is darned encouraging!

> From http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...3/28/9655.aspx
>


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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:42:21 -0500
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:

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> On 03/29/07 09:26, Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500
> > Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> >
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> >> On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote:
> >>> Passed to me by a colleague:
> >>>
> >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm
> >>>
> >>> *grin*
> >> There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more
> >> expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't
> >> sell ad space on a Linux desktop).
> >>
> >> Thus, sales will be low and Dell will be justified in considering
> >> the project a failure.
> >>
> >> In /. terms, itsatrap.
> >
> > That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do
> > linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows license. I suppose
> > they're targeting people who want the convenience, not the cost saving.
> > I'd actually rather do the install myself, to customize it properly, so
> > I suppose what I really want is a no OS box, cheaper by the cost of a
> > Windows license from the equivalent Windows one.
>
> But not subsidized by advertising space sold to other companies.

Yes. Another post in this thread made a good point, that a major
benefit of this could be the effort to promote hardware compatibility
and the development of (free) drivers.

Celejar


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