I have downloaded (apt ....etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
Sarge placed in file:

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ (60 entries) and in

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/ (11 entries)

but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.

I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
further installation? How do I make that happen?

I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be ful, but I can't make
any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
is somewhat useful.

Anybody been there and done that????

Dave W.


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I have downloaded (apt ....etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
Sarge placed in file:

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ (60 entries) and in

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/ (11 entries)

but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.

I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
further installation? How do I make that happen?

I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be ful, but I can't make
any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
is somewhat useful.

Anybody been there and done that????

Dave W.


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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:47:15 -0500
"Dave Walker" <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have downloaded (apt ....etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
> Sarge placed in file:
>
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ (60 entries) and
> in
>
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/ (11 entries)
>
> but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.
>
> I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
> but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
> among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
> further installation? How do I make that happen?
>
> I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be ful, but I can't make
> any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
> does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
> is somewhat useful.
>
> Anybody been there and done that????
>
> Dave W.
>
>

Run the following commands:

fc-cache -fv
fc-list

The output of the first command should include the
directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/, and the second
should include the new fonts. At that point the fonts will be available
to GTK2 applications such as Abiword.

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On Wed, 2007-28-03 at 06:45 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:47:15 -0500
> "Dave Walker" <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have downloaded (apt ....etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
> > Sarge placed in file:
> >
> > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ (60 entries) and
> > in
> >
> > /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/ (11 entries)
> >
> > but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.
> >
> > I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
> > but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
> > among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
> > further installation? How do I make that happen?
> >
> > I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be ful, but I can't make
> > any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
> > does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
> > is somewhat useful.
> >
> > Anybody been there and done that????
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> >
>
> Run the following commands:
>
> fc-cache -fv
> fc-list
>
> The output of the first command should include the
> directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/, and the second
> should include the new fonts. At that point the fonts will be available
> to GTK2 applications such as Abiword.
>
> --
>
> Liam
>
>
Thanks, Liam for the tips. The command (run as root)

fc-cache -fv

produced this output;

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 3 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype": caching, 0 fonts, 2 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera": caching, 10
fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts": caching, 60 fonts,
0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/type1": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts": caching, 35 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/afms": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/afms/adobe": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 7 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large": caching, 0 fonts,
0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc": caching, 55 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi": caching, 397 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi": caching, 397 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1": caching, 44 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/usr/local/share/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs

fc-cache: "/root/.fonts": skipping, no such directory

fc-cache: succeeded

and the command fc-list the following (excuse the verbosity)

Verdana:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,Î šÎ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard ,Normalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular Italic

Times New
Roman:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,ΚΠ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,N ormalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,thÆ°Æ¡Ì€n g,Arrunta

Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold

Webdings:style=Regular

URW Palladio L:style=Roman

Century Schoolbook L:style=Bold Italic

Verdana:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed kursiv,Fett
Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,Lodi etzana

Georgia:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,ÎλΠ¬Î³Î¹Î±,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief, Kursywa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,Etz ana

Comic Sans
MS:style=Regular,Normal,oby�ejné,Standard,Καν ονικά,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Norm alny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Oblique

Nimbus Sans L:style=Bold

Georgia:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed kursiv,Fett
Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,Lodi etzana

URW Chancery L:style=Medium Italic

Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Roman

Bitstream Charter:style=Bold Italic

Nimbus Roman No9 L:style=Regular

Century Schoolbook L:style=Bold

Century Schoolbook L:style=Italic

Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular

Trebuchet
MS:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,Îλάγι α,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief,Kursy wa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,Etzana

URW Palladio L:style=Italic

Cursor:style=Regular

Nimbus Sans L:style=Bold Condensed

Trebuchet
MS:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,ΈντονΠ±,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Vet ,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,Полужирный,F et,Kalın,Krepko,Lodia

URW Gothic L:style=Demi

Times New
Roman:style=Italic,cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,ÎλάΠ³Î¹Î±,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief,ku rsywa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,nghià ªng,Etzana

Nimbus Roman No9 L:style=Medium Italic

Bitstream Charter:style=Regular

Verdana:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,Έντ ονα,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassett o,Vet,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,ÐŸÐ¾Ð»ÑƒÐ¶Ð¸Ñ€Ð½Ñ ‹Ð¹,Fet,Kalın,Krepko,Lodia

Nimbus Mono L:style=Bold Oblique

Andale
Mono:style=Regular,Normal,oby�ejné,Standard,Κα νονικά,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,No rmalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Georgia:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,Έντ ονα,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassett o,Vet,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,ÐŸÐ¾Ð»ÑƒÐ¶Ð¸Ñ€Ð½Ñ ‹Ð¹,Fet,Kalın,Krepko,Lodia

Dingbats:style=Regular

Times New
Roman:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,Έντο να,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto, Vet,Halvfet,Pogrubiona,Negrito,ПолужирныР¹,Fet,Kalın,Krepko,đậm,Lodia

Arial
Black:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,ΚΠ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,N ormalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique

Nimbus Roman No9 L:style=Medium

Nimbus Sans L:style=Bold Italic

Courier
New:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,ΚαΠ½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Nor malny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,thÆ°Æ¡Ì€ng, Arrunta

Courier 10 Pitch:style=Bold Italic

Trebuchet
MS:style=Regular,Normal,oby�ejné,Standard,Καν ονικά,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Norm alny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Arial:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed kursiv,Fett
Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,nghiêng đậm,Lodi etzana

Nimbus Mono L:style=Regular

Trebuchet MS:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed
kursiv,Fett Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,Lodi etzana

Bitstream Charter:style=Italic

Comic Sans
MS:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,ΈντονΠ±,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Vet ,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,Полужирный,F et,Kalın,Krepko,Lodia

URW Gothic L:style=Book

Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Bold

Verdana:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,ÎλΠ¬Î³Î¹Î±,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief, Kursywa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,Etz ana

Courier New:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed
kursiv,Fett Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,Lodi etzana

Courier 10 Pitch:style=Italic

Arial:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,ÎλάΠ³Î¹Î±,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief,Ku rsywa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,nghià ªng,Etzana

Bitstream Vera Serif:style=Roman

Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique

Courier
New:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,ÎλάγΠ¹Î±,Kursivoitu,Italique,DÅ‘lt,Corsivo,Cursief,Kurs ywa,Itálico,КурÑ�ив,Ä°talik,PoÅ¡evno,nghiên g,Etzana

Bitstream Vera Sans:style=Bold Oblique

Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular Condensed Italic

URW Bookman L:style=Demi Bold

Arial:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,ΚΠ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,N ormalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,thÆ°Æ¡Ì€n g,Arrunta

URW Bookman L:style=Light

URW Gothic L:style=Demi Oblique

Standard Symbols L:style=Regular

Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman

Courier 10 Pitch:style=Regular

Courier
New:style=Bold,Negreta,tu�né,fed,Fett,Έντον α,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Ve t,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,Полужирный, Fet,Kalın,Krepko,đậm,Lodia

URW Palladio L:style=Bold

Nimbus Sans L:style=Regular Condensed

URW Bookman L:style=Light Italic

Century Schoolbook L:style=Roman

Nimbus Roman No9 L:style=Regular Italic

Courier 10 Pitch:style=Bold

URW Gothic L:style=Book Oblique

URW Palladio L:style=Bold Italic

Arial:style=Bold,Negreta,tuÄ�né,fed,Fett,Έντο να,Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto, Vet,Halvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,ПолужирныР¹,Fet,Kalın,Krepko,đậm,Lodia

Nimbus Mono L:style=Regular Oblique

Bitstream Vera Serif:style=Bold

Nimbus Mono L:style=Bold

Impact:style=Regular,Normal,oby�ejné,Standard,Κ ανονικά,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard, Normalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Georgia:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,Î šÎ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard ,Normalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

Bitstream Charter:style=Bold

Times New Roman:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tuÄ�né kurzÃva,fed
kursiv,Fett Kursiv,Έντονα Îλάγια,Negrita Cursiva,Lihavoitu Kursivoi,Gras
Italique,Félkövér dőlt,Grassetto Corsivo,Vet Cursief,Halvfet
Kursiv,Pogrubiona kursywa,Negrito Itálico,Полужирный Кур�ив,Tu�ná
kurzÃva,Fet Kursiv,Kalın Ä°talik,Krepko poÅ¡evno,nghiêng đậm,Lodi etzana

Nimbus Sans L:style=Bold Condensed Italic

URW Bookman L:style=Demi Bold Italic



But, alas, I still don't see any true-type fonts available in Gnome or
its applications. I looked in the desktop configuration, Abiword, and
Gnumeric for the new fonts. I also tried to log out and in again to
Debian both as root and as a normal user, but no success.

Any additional suggestions??

Thanks, again

DAve W,





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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:50:07 -0500
Dave Workshop <carol.dave.walker@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Liam for the tips. The command (run as root)
>
> fc-cache -fv
>
> produced this output;

[...]

> fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts": caching, 60
> fonts, 0 dirs

[...]

>
> fc-cache: succeeded
>
> and the command fc-list the following (excuse the verbosity)
>
> Verdana:style=Regular,Normal,obyÄ�ejné,Standard,Î šÎ±Î½Î¿Î½Î¹ÎºÎ¬,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard ,Normalny,Обычный,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

[...]

> But, alas, I still don't see any true-type fonts available in Gnome or
> its applications. I looked in the desktop configuration, Abiword, and
> Gnumeric for the new fonts. I also tried to log out and in again to
> Debian both as root and as a normal user, but no success.
>
> Any additional suggestions??

Sorry, I'm stumped. The snippets above indicate that Verdana and
friends *should* be available to GTK2 applications, and to any other
application which uses fontconfig. As a matter of interest, do you have
any QT or KDE applications installed? The fonts should be available to
them too.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:50:07AM EST, Dave Workshop wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-28-03 at 06:45 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:

[..]

> > Run the following commands:
> >
> > fc-cache -fv
> > fc-list
> >
> > The output of the first command should include the
> > directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/, and the second
> > should include the new fonts. At that point the fonts will be available
> > to GTK2 applications such as Abiword.

> > Liam
> >
> Thanks, Liam for the tips. The command (run as root)
>
> fc-cache -fv
>
> produced this output;
>
[..]

> Verdana:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tu?né kurzÃva,fed kursiv,Fett

>
> Georgia:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,????? ?,Kursivoitu,Italique,D?lt,Corsivo,Cursief,Kursywa ,Itálico,??????,?talik,PoÅ¡evno,Etzana
>
> Comic Sans
> MS:style=Regular,Normal,oby?ejné,Standard,??????? ?,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,???? ???,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

[..]

> Trebuchet
> MS:style=Italic,Cursiva,kurzÃva,kursiv,??????,Kur sivoitu,Italique,D?lt,Corsivo,Cursief,Kursywa,Itá lico,??????,?talik,PoÅ¡evno,Etzana

[..]

> Georgia:style=Bold,Negreta,tu?né,fed,Fett,??????, Negrita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Vet,H alvfet,Pogrubiony,Negrito,??????????,Fet,Kal?n,Kre pko,Lodia
>
> Dingbats:style=Regular
>
> Times New
> Roman:style=Bold,Negreta,tu?né,fed,Fett,??????,Ne grita,Lihavoitu,Gras,Félkövér,Grassetto,Vet,Hal vfet,Pogrubiona,Negrito,??????????,Fet,Kal?n,Krepk o,?â?m,Lodia
>
> Arial
> Black:style=Regular,Normal,oby?ejné,Standard,???? ????,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,? ??????,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta

[..]

> Courier
> New:style=Regular,Normal,oby?ejné,Standard,?????? ??,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,??? ????,Normálne,Navadno,th???ng,Arrunta
>
> Courier 10 Pitch:style=Bold Italic
>
> Trebuchet
> MS:style=Regular,Normal,oby?ejné,Standard,??????? ?,Normaali,Normál,Normale,Standaard,Normalny,???? ???,Normálne,Navadno,Arrunta
>
> Arial:style=Bold Italic,Negreta cursiva,tu?né kurzÃva,fed kursiv,Fett

> But, alas, I still don't see any true-type fonts available in Gnome or
> its applications. I looked in the desktop configuration, Abiword, and
> Gnumeric for the new fonts. I also tried to log out and in again to
> Debian both as root and as a normal user, but no success.
>
> Any additional suggestions??

I had a heck of a time having the Terminus (fixed) font recognized by
mozilla -- another GTK app. I had done as Liam rightly recommends
above and mozilla was ignoring my favorite fixed font.

Does gnome/gtk keep stuff in ram across login sessions to initialize
more quickly ..?

So, unless it's really inconvenient at this point I would just reboot
the boxx just in case .. see if it s.

Otherwise, I don't use gnome or any of the apps you mention .. but are
they recent versions .. Just thinking that since it's a sarge system
you're talking about, some of the apps might be too ancient to be
fontconfig-aware..?

HTH

Thanks,
cga




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Success - in part......I think???

On 3/28/07, cga2000 <cga2000@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:50:07AM EST, Dave Workshop wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-28-03 at 06:45 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > > Run the following commands:
> > >
> > > fc-cache -fv
> > > fc-list
> > >
> > > The output of the first command should include the
> > > directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/, and the second
> > > should include the new fonts. At that point the fonts will be available
> > > to GTK2 applications such as Abiword.
>
> > > Liam

Dave replied:

>
> > But, alas, I still don't see any true-type fonts available in Gnome or
> > its applications. I looked in the desktop configuration, Abiword, and
> > Gnumeric for the new fonts. I also tried to log out and in again to
> > Debian both as root and as a normal user, but no success.
> >
> > Any additional suggestions??

CGA replied:

> I had a heck of a time having the Terminus (fixed) font recognized by
> mozilla -- another GTK app. I had done as Liam rightly recommends
> above and mozilla was ignoring my favorite fixed font.
>
> Does gnome/gtk keep stuff in ram across login sessions to initialize
> more quickly ..?
>
> So, unless it's really inconvenient at this point I would just reboot
> the boxx just in case .. see if it s.
>
> Otherwise, I don't use gnome or any of the apps you mention .. but are
> they recent versions .. Just thinking that since it's a sarge system
> you're talking about, some of the apps might be too ancient to be
> fontconfig-aware..?
>
> HTH
>
> Thanks,
> cga
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Thanks, all for the suggestions.

I checked my apps running under Gnome, and at least some of the
truetype fonts have become available (those from:
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ but not from
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera), but I can't say what
exactly led them the become available.

I tried dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig as suggested by
Rage, and also
fc-cache -fv as suggested by Liam

Some confusion arose (a continual state for me since I am new to Linux
- there are surprises almost everywhere - most of the type.....now why
did THAT happen???), since the fonts are NOT shown explicitly as
truetype fonts in the font selection dialogue of the applications -
they are only identified by name, so you must know somehow by name
that they are in fact truetype.

One rather nice feature of the Gnome desktop (V 2.8 ) is that all
available fonts can be sampled in a very nice manner. Follow below:

Applications>Desktop Preferences>Font

Choose the button on the lower left corner to open the font
page. Scroll down to the bottom of (Section 11.6.2) for an
explanation how to use the file manager/browser to examine installed
fonts.

Open the Gnome file manager/browser and clear the location field (the
one that points to various file locations). Type in fonts:///
and there, in blazing glory, are all the available
fonts.

The specific location of the each font in the file system is not
shown, and I have not been able to determine why some have a "lock"
symbol on them, but there they are. Neat!

Font management in Debian Sarge is still a complete mystery to me,
with various command line commands doing whatever (and exactly what
does the gui tool Defontmgr do, anyway???), but maybe in Etch and
updated Gnome the situation has been improved. I'll wait until Etch
becomes the stable Debian release to find out.

Meanwhile, Gnome is proving to be a productive and pleasant GUI for my
purposes. My thanks to the development team.

Dave W.


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On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:52:24AM EST, Dave Walker wrote:

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> Thanks, all for the suggestions.

You're very welcome.

Thanks,
cga


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