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Vieux 10/03/2007, 20h00   #1
Don Hayward
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Hi,

I have a friend who would like to get away from Microsoft system
dependence. The show stopper seems to be voice recognition. She is
partially disabled and needs Naturally Speaking or equivalent. She
uses it for live dictation as well as recording to a digital recorder
followed by transcription.

Are there any open source equivalents to NS?

If not, does anyone know of a successful use of NS under wine?

If not, might xen or some other virtualizer be the answer? Could she
move files from one virtual machine to another?

Thanks for any insight and advice.

Don

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Vieux 10/03/2007, 21h10   #2
Ron Johnson
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On 03/10/07 13:54, Don Hayward wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a friend who would like to get away from Microsoft system
> dependence. The show stopper seems to be voice recognition. She is
> partially disabled and needs Naturally Speaking or equivalent. She
> uses it for live dictation as well as recording to a digital recorder
> followed by transcription.


My uncle is not disabled but uses DNS a lot.

>
> Are there any open source equivalents to NS?


Nothing remotely usable by anyone but a dedicated propeller head.

> If not, does anyone know of a successful use of NS under wine?
>
> If not, might xen or some other virtualizer be the answer? Could she
> move files from one virtual machine to another?


Both would suck up too much of the host's resources.

> Thanks for any insight and advice.


If she really needs VR, then she's stuck with MS Windows.


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Vieux 11/03/2007, 09h50   #3
Steve Lamb
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Ron Johnson wrote:
> If she really needs VR, then she's stuck with MS Windows.


Er, well, maybe not. Is there a chance that OSX would give her what she
needs? I know it isn't free (speech/beer) but IMHO it is a step closer. I
mean it isn't Microsoft and it is based on FreeBSD.

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Vieux 12/03/2007, 18h30   #4
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Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>>If she really needs VR, then she's stuck with MS Windows.

>
>
> Er, well, maybe not. Is there a chance that OSX would give her what she
> needs? I know it isn't free (speech/beer) but IMHO it is a step closer. I
> mean it isn't Microsoft and it is based on FreeBSD.
>


This whole thread strikes me as unusually rancorous. ISTM
that MS is providing a Good Thing, and STILL one complains about
being "stuck" with it. Here is a place where MS is better than
Linux, yet that still does not get acknowledged.

Is there a possibility of running a copy of VR under, say, Wine?

I ask that being completely ignorant of how VR works.

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Vieux 12/03/2007, 23h50   #5
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Mike McCarty wrote:
> This whole thread strikes me as unusually rancorous. ISTM
> that MS is providing a Good Thing, and STILL one complains about
> being "stuck" with it. Here is a place where MS is better than
> Linux, yet that still does not get acknowledged.


Er, when wasn't it ackowledged? You responded that they're "stuck" with
Windows. I offered a possible alternative out of ignorance. I never said
that Windows wasn't better than the alternatives because I flat out don't
know. I just pointed out that even though Operating Systems live in a binary
world we're not just limited to 2 options, Windows and Linux.

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Vieux 13/03/2007, 08h00   #6
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Steve Lamb wrote:
> Mike McCarty wrote:
>
>>This whole thread strikes me as unusually rancorous. ISTM
>>that MS is providing a Good Thing, and STILL one complains about
>>being "stuck" with it. Here is a place where MS is better than
>>Linux, yet that still does not get acknowledged.

>
> Er, when wasn't it ackowledged? You responded that they're "stuck" with


No, I didn't, as I don't consider Windows to be something one
gets "stuck" with. Perhaps you aren't checking attributions?
I don't know what I might have written that would cause anyone to
consider that I dislike Windows any more than I do Linux, say.

> Windows. I offered a possible alternative out of ignorance. I never said
> that Windows wasn't better than the alternatives because I flat out don't
> know. I just pointed out that even though Operating Systems live in a binary
> world we're not just limited to 2 options, Windows and Linux.


Certainly not.

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Vieux 13/03/2007, 08h50   #7
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On 03/13/07 01:51, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
>> Mike McCarty wrote:
>>
>>> This whole thread strikes me as unusually rancorous. ISTM
>>> that MS is providing a Good Thing, and STILL one complains about
>>> being "stuck" with it. Here is a place where MS is better than
>>> Linux, yet that still does not get acknowledged.

>>
>> Er, when wasn't it ackowledged? You responded that they're "stuck" with

>
> No, I didn't, as I don't consider Windows to be something one
> gets "stuck" with. Perhaps you aren't checking attributions?
> I don't know what I might have written that would cause anyone to
> consider that I dislike Windows any more than I do Linux, say.


I'm the one who said she was stuck on Windows, but had forgotten
about VR s/w for OS X.

http://www.nuance.com/viavoice/osx/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/speech/

>
>> Windows. I offered a possible alternative out of ignorance. I never
>> said
>> that Windows wasn't better than the alternatives because I flat out don't
>> know. I just pointed out that even though Operating Systems live in a
>> binary
>> world we're not just limited to 2 options, Windows and Linux.

>
> Certainly not.
>
> Mike


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Vieux 19/03/2007, 22h10   #8
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:54:36 -0500 (EST), Don wrote in message
<Pine.LNX.4.64.0703101442300.25845@chloropus.pomob uli.net>:

> Hi,
>
> I have a friend who would like to get away from Microsoft system
> dependence. The show stopper seems to be voice recognition. She is
> partially disabled and needs Naturally Speaking or equivalent. She
> uses it for live dictation as well as recording to a digital recorder
> followed by transcription.
>
> Are there any open source equivalents to NS?
>
> If not, does anyone know of a successful use of NS under wine?
>
> If not, might xen or some other virtualizer be the answer? Could she
> move files from one virtual machine to another?
>
> Thanks for any insight and advice.


...try play with these searches in your CLI:
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search recogni |wc -l
123
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search voice |wc -l
107
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search voice |apt-cache
search recogni |wc -l 123
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search "voice \
recogni" |wc -l

0
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search speech |wc -l
90
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache search "speech \
recogni" |wc -l
4
arnt@a45:~/Independent-Reformer $ apt-cache --full search \
"speech recogni" |less

...I was planning to do a doorbell server off one of these 4,
but wound upsurfing the web instead. ;o)

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