> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:42:23 +0200> From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com> > Ben Humpert <ben_humpert@msn.com> wrote:> > > kinda curious, uname -a said "Linux dr02g 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb> > 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux". > > This is not a SMP kernel, not a real one or something different?!> > ~$ grep SMP /boot/config-2.6.18-4-686> CONFIG_SMP=y> # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set> CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP=y> CONFIG_X86_FIND_SMP_CONFIG=y> CONFIG_X86_SMP=y> > The 686 kernels are SMP for some time now.> > > dpkg said, the installed "kernel" is "linux-image-2.6.18-4-686" and> > "linux-image-2.6-686" (no kernel-image-* is installed)> > The linux kernel packages inetch and above have been renamed to avoid> conflicts with non-linux kernels like freebsd.> > HTH,> Andrei
For some time? I don't understand. I thought only a SMP kernel is SMP capable, others arent. Sure, its still "testing" but testing crap is nonsense...

Again i want to switch to a different distribution ... just call the kernelpackages kinda like "debian-kernel-..." so conflicts avoided perfectly ...in sarge most (not all) of the kernel packages got renamed from kernel-image* to linux-image*. now they changed names again ... just change all namesnow to a name you dont have to change in some month again.

Also it looks like etch has a bug, i installed "kernel-image-2.6-686-smp" and "linux-image-2.6-686-smp" but i cannot select this real SMP kernel at the grup loader, jut the both entries created by the debian installer.

The differences aptitude shows between these both kernels are:

linux-image-2.6-686-smp:
- Version: 2.6.18+6
- Depends: linux-image-2.6-686
- Tags: admin::kernel

kernel-image-2.6-686-smp:
- Version: 1:2.6.18+6
- Depends: linux-image-2.6-686-smp
- Tags: admin::kernel, role::metapackage

So, what are the real differences? do they just flood apt with "empty" packages?

Thanks for advice

Le samedi 10 mars 2007 15:13, Ben Humpert a écrit:
> > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:42:23 +0200> From: andreimpopescu@gmail.com> >
> > Ben Humpert <ben_humpert@msn.com> wrote:> > > kinda curious, uname -a
> > said "Linux dr02g 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb> > 21 16:06:54 UTC 2007
> > i686 GNU/Linux". > > This is not a SMP kernel, not a real one or
> > something different?!> > ~$ grep SMP /boot/config-2.6.18-4-686>
> > CONFIG_SMP=y> # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set> CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP=y>
> > CONFIG_X86_FIND_SMP_CONFIG=y> CONFIG_X86_SMP=y> > The 686 kernels are SMP
> > for some time now.> > > dpkg said, the installed "kernel" is
> > "linux-image-2.6.18-4-686" and> > "linux-image-2.6-686" (no
> > kernel-image-* is installed)> > The linux kernel packages in etch and
> > above have been renamed to avoid> conflicts with non-linux kernels like
> > freebsd.> > HTH,> Andrei
>
> For some time? I don't understand. I thought only a SMP kernel is SMP
> capable, others arent. Sure, its still "testing" but testing crap is
> nonsense...
>
> Again i want to switch to a different distribution ... just call the kernel
> packages kinda like "debian-kernel-..." so conflicts avoided perfectly ...
> in sarge most (not all) of the kernel packages got renamed from
> kernel-image* to linux-image*. now they changed names again ... just change
> all names now to a name you dont have to change in some month again.
>
> Also it looks like etch has a bug, i installed "kernel-image-2.6-686-smp"
> and "linux-image-2.6-686-smp" but i cannot select this real SMP kernel at
> the grup loader, jut the both entries created by the debian installer.
>
> The differences aptitude shows between these both kernels are:
>
> linux-image-2.6-686-smp:
> - Version: 2.6.18+6
> - Depends: linux-image-2.6-686
> - Tags: admin::kernel
>
> kernel-image-2.6-686-smp:
> - Version: 1:2.6.18+6
> - Depends: linux-image-2.6-686-smp
> - Tags: admin::kernel, role::metapackage
>
> So, what are the real differences? do they just flood apt with "empty"
> packages?
>
> Thanks for advice

Seems you have to document yourself a bit before getting angry.

1) kernel packages have changed their names because there are now other
kernels than linux's ones (hurd, bsd). So the names linux-image-*

2) Linux kernel after 2.6.17 are all SMP capable, because it does not more
degrade performances on a mono-processor system.

3) The force of apt is smooth upgrade between releases. How is this achieved ?
In having transitional packages like kernel-image-2.6-686-smp in etch whichis
here just to upgrade from the sarge kernel package to the new
linux-image-2.6-686 in etch.

Their are plenty of other meta packages, they are here for dependencies
managing and upgrades.
If you install linux-image-686, you would upgrade between kernel versions for
i686, no matter if it's 2.6.18, 2.6.20 or 3.0.
If you don't want, you install the real package linux-image-2.6.18-4-686, and
no more upgrades...

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