Hi,

I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.

azureus: excellent in terms of features, but conflicts with eclipse,
which I also need

ktorrent: also a good set of features, but is a KDE application

bittornado-gui: the version currently in etch does not support
encryption; this is unlikely to change because etch is in freeze

gnome-btdownload: a glorified file picker

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

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On 3/9/07, Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
> requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
> the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
>
> azureus: excellent in terms of features, but conflicts with eclipse,
> which I also need
>
> ktorrent: also a good set of features, but is a KDE application
>
> bittornado-gui: the version currently in etch does not support
> encryption; this is unlikely to change because etch is in freeze
>
> gnome-btdownload: a glorified file picker
>
> Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Opera

www.opera.com

has an embedded client.


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Hello Guillermon.

Guillermo Garron, 09.03.2007 14:05:
> On 3/9/07, Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
>> requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
>> the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
>>
>> […]
>>
>> Does anyone have any other suggestions?
>
> Opera
>
> www.opera.com
>
> has an embedded client.

But does not integrate into a GTK based desktop in any way.


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On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 13:34 +0100, CJ van den Berg wrote:
> There is also deluge-torrent which is GTk+ and seems to work quite well.
> Unfortunately it didn't make it into etch before the freeze so it's stuckin
> unstable.

It doesn't support encryption, and is quite rough around the edges
still.

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On 03/09/07 06:10, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
> requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
> the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
>
> azureus: excellent in terms of features, but conflicts with eclipse,
> which I also need
>
> ktorrent: also a good set of features, but is a KDE application
>
> bittornado-gui: the version currently in etch does not support
> encryption; this is unlikely to change because etch is in freeze
>
> gnome-btdownload: a glorified file picker
>
> Does anyone have any other suggestions?
>

I like freeloader. Don't know if it supports encryption, though.


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2007/3/9, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>:
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> On 03/09/07 06:10, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
> > requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
> > the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
> >
> > azureus: excellent in terms of features, but conflicts with eclipse,
> > which I also need
> >
> > ktorrent: also a good set of features, but is a KDE application
> >
> > bittornado-gui: the version currently in etch does not support
> > encryption; this is unlikely to change because etch is in freeze
> >
> > gnome-btdownload: a glorified file picker
> >
> > Does anyone have any other suggestions?
> >
>
> I like freeloader. Don't know if it supports encryption, though.
>
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I sugess deluge bittorrent.
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Liam O'Toole wrote:
> I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
> requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely with
> the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.

Given your constraints, none. Linux BT clients are sorely lacking which
is ironic given that BT core is written in Python and platform neutral.

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:30:44 -0800
Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> wrote:

> Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > I am looking for a graphical bittorrent client for etch. My
> > requirements are that it supports encryption and integrates nicely
> > with the GNOME desktop. Here are the ones I have evaluated so far.
>
> Given your constraints, none. Linux BT clients are sorely
> lacking which is ironic given that BT core is written in Python and
> platform neutral.
>

What's more, in Debian the bittorrent core is stuck in the year 2004.
Apparently there are licence issues with more recent versions.

Never mind. I'll use the upstream azureus until the situation improves.

Thanks to all for the replies.

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Liam O'Toole wrote:
> What's more, in Debian the bittorrent core is stuck in the year 2004.
> Apparently there are licence issues with more recent versions.

Yeah. :/ A similar discussion went on the Ubuntu lists recently which is
why I knew pretty much what you want wasn't there.

> Never mind. I'll use the upstream azureus until the situation improves.

Ungh. Don't get me wrong, Azureus is a fine client but I think if there
ever was a case study on how inefficient Java is, Azureus would be it. I
normally run Azureus on my server box because of how much RAM it uses. With 2
torrents going, one a 1Gb torrent and one a 300Mb torrent Azureus took up
300Mb of RAM. The server has 700 something MB so it can handle it but still,
yeouch!

So recently I decided to see what else was out there when the Ubuntu lists
had a similar question about clients. I went back to G3Torrent which, inits
day, was a feature equivalent of Azureus but written in Python. I couldn't
find the Linux version but did find a branch (also 2 years old) called Rufus
which did run on Linux. Rufus on the same 2 torrents took up a grand total of
30Mb.

It was old though and I wanted something a tad more modern.
Deluge-torrent didn't work for me as I ran into the one and only show-stopper
bug it has. It doesn't even start now. *sigh*

So then I decided to think outside the linux box. I nabbed a copy of
uTorrent as it is a close feature set to Azureus just written in C for
Windows. Wine + uTorrent on the same 2 torrents... 10Mb.

Now for the part that really kicks Java's head in. Azureus at nice 0
would punch my box up to a load of 2. 1 for it and 1 for X keeping up with
its updates. I set it to nice 5 and I get the load down to 1 and a
semi-responsive box.

Rufus in Python (wxWidgets as its GUI set)... load of mayyyybe 0.1 at nice 0.

Wine + uTorrent... load of 0.01.

I don't believe Azureus is poorly written because all the Java apps Ihave
tried have the same metrics. Tons of RAM and CPU usage, vastly more than
Python which is almost as ubiquitous.

Anyway, the point of this long message is that if anyone else is reading
and not liking the prospect of Azureus, give uTorrent + Wine a try. Maybe
someone will pick up Rufus and run with it as it is on Sourceforge. It'sway
above my level of Python-fu or I'd give it a shot. But wine + utorrent =200x
less CPU usage and 30x less RAM usage. That's not chump change for people
with smaller boxes.

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On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:33:16AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Anyway, the point of this long message is that if anyone else is reading
> and not liking the prospect of Azureus, give uTorrent + Wine a try. Maybe
> someone will pick up Rufus and run with it as it is on Sourceforge. It'sway
> above my level of Python-fu or I'd give it a shot. But wine + utorrent = 200x
> less CPU usage and 30x less RAM usage. That's not chump change for people
> with smaller boxes.

I do not know much about utorrent, and I have used Azureus before. Now,
I use torrentflux :

http://www.torrentflux.com/

It based on php, and as I have an apache 2 server running on my
debian, I am able to start, upload torrents from other workstations.
You can manage differents accounts as well. I think it's a pretty useful
package.

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:33:16 -0800
Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> wrote:

[snip]

> So recently I decided to see what else was out there when the Ubuntu lists
> had a similar question about clients. I went back to G3Torrent which, in its
> day, was a feature equivalent of Azureus but written in Python. I couldn't
> find the Linux version but did find a branch (also 2 years old) called Rufus
> which did run on Linux. Rufus on the same 2 torrents took up a grand total of
> 30Mb.
>
> It was old though and I wanted something a tad more modern.
> Deluge-torrent didn't work for me as I ran into the one and only show-stopper
> bug it has. It doesn't even start now. *sigh*
>
> So then I decided to think outside the linux box. I nabbed a copy of
> uTorrent as it is a close feature set to Azureus just written in C for
> Windows. Wine + uTorrent on the same 2 torrents... 10Mb.
>
> Now for the part that really kicks Java's head in. Azureus at nice 0
> would punch my box up to a load of 2. 1 for it and 1 for X keeping up with
> its updates. I set it to nice 5 and I get the load down to 1 and a
> semi-responsive box.
>
> Rufus in Python (wxWidgets as its GUI set)... load of mayyyybe 0.1 at nice 0.
>
> Wine + uTorrent... load of 0.01.
>
> I don't believe Azureus is poorly written because all the Java apps I have
> tried have the same metrics. Tons of RAM and CPU usage, vastly more than
> Python which is almost as ubiquitous.
>
> Anyway, the point of this long message is that if anyone else is reading
> and not liking the prospect of Azureus, give uTorrent + Wine a try. Maybe
> someone will pick up Rufus and run with it as it is on Sourceforge. It's way
> above my level of Python-fu or I'd give it a shot. But wine + utorrent = 200x
> less CPU usage and 30x less RAM usage. That's not chump change for people
> with smaller boxes.

I rather like rtorrent; I don't know what features you need, but it
seems to work well and seems to generate very little load.

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