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Vieux 02/12/2006, 17h40   #1
Hugo Vanwoerkom
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Hi,

I need to upgrade my BIOS.

Generally it seems to involve getting freedos and putting it on a floppy
with the updates.

Googling isn't clear on recent reports.

Has anyone done this lately and specifically how?

Thanks!

Hugo


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Vieux 02/12/2006, 19h50   #2
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to upgrade my BIOS.
>
> Generally it seems to involve getting freedos and putting it on a floppy
> with the updates.
>
> Googling isn't clear on recent reports.
>
> Has anyone done this lately and specifically how?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Hugo
>
>


Usually when I've upgraded a BIOS, the thing to do was go find
the information on how to do so (along with the appropriate
files for doing so) at my motherboard manufacturer's website.
The basic idea is that your motherboard manufacturer takes care
of your BIOS, and if you know who that is, you can probably find
everything you need on their website.

If you have a custom built computer, you probably know that
someone like ASUS or Gigabyte made your motherboard. So you
should go look for this information on their website. If you
bought a proprietary, pre-built system from someone like Dell,
Compaq, or Gateway, then you can probably find what you need on
their website.

For instance, I've upgraded the BIOS on a Dell before, and I
just found all the released BIOS versions along with
instructions for how to upgrade on Dell's website, by going to
"Support" and then searching for the *computer* model. I've
also upgraded a custom built computer's BIOS, and in that case I
went to ASUS's website (because that's who built the
motherboard) and found the same information by looking for the
*motherboard* model.

Hope that s,
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Vieux 02/12/2006, 21h40   #3
Douglas Tutty
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:35:07AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to upgrade my BIOS.
>
> Generally it seems to involve getting freedos and putting it on a floppy
> with the updates.
>
> Googling isn't clear on recent reports.
>
> Has anyone done this lately and specifically how?
>


I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
new one. No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).

However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3. I used dd to
create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.

When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?

Doug.


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Vieux 03/12/2006, 14h00   #4
Hugo Vanwoerkom
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Douglas Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:35:07AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need to upgrade my BIOS.
>>
>> Generally it seems to involve getting freedos and putting it on a floppy
>> with the updates.
>>
>> Googling isn't clear on recent reports.
>>
>> Has anyone done this lately and specifically how?
>>

>
> I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
> bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
> new one. No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
> stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).
>
> However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3. I used dd to
> create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
> Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.
>
> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
> like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?
>
> Doug.
>
>


Well, I found some sites, like:
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
that has an floppy image that contains a bare freedos and room to put
the upgrade files on.

This:
http://odin.fdos.org/
has a floppy image of freedos and a readme that says to:

cat odin060.144 > /dev/fd0

Those images are all 1474560, apparently the size of an 1.44MB floppy.

The reason for all this is that I want to install XP from a 5 year old
install CD that I have. But the manufacturer of my mobo Epox has a list
of BIOS upgrades and one of them says:

"When On Chip USB control function was set all Enabled in BIOS setup
install WinXP will hang."

So that seems to be a must for this mobo and the book is quite clear
that you have to use a floppy to upgrade the BIOS.

I will find a place that still sells floppies and report back.

Hugo


















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Vieux 03/12/2006, 15h00   #5
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Douglas Tutty wrote:
> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire


In the US, 95 years from date of first publication or 120 years from date
of creation: whichever comes first.
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Vieux 20/12/2006, 16h50   #6
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Am 2006-12-03 08:32:18, schrieb John Hasler:
> Douglas Tutty wrote:
> > When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire

>
> In the US, 95 years from date of first publication or 120 years from date
> of creation: whichever comes first.


But only, if the Software is official supported by the manufacturer
and NOT ORPHANED like MS-Dos <=6.22, Win 3.1, WfW 3.11 and Win 95.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
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Vieux 20/12/2006, 16h50   #7
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Am 2006-12-02 16:14:58, schrieb Douglas Tutty:
> I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
> bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
> new one. No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
> stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).
>
> However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3. I used dd to
> create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
> Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.
>
> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
> like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?


There was already a juridical discusion about WfW 3.11 and Win95 on the
Internet andm according to the US Law, the rights for software expires
if THE manufacturer stop selling it and does not more do support for it
(this excludes documentations, e.g. the M$ Knowledgebase)

Which meanm you can Distribute all versions of MS-Dos and Windows up to
Win95 freely.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack


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Vieux 20/12/2006, 17h20   #8
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On 12/20/06 10:38, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-12-02 16:14:58, schrieb Douglas Tutty:
>> I've only done it once and that was on my new Asus M2N-SLI that has a
>> bios utility built right in to allow you to save the bios and update a
>> new one. No dos required at all, just the bios image on a floppy or USB
>> stick (or on a MS partition on a hard drive).
>>
>> However, for my friend Justin Case, I still have dos 6.3. I used dd to
>> create floppy images and can make them whenever I need to.
>> Unfortunatly, since 6.3 isn't public domain, I can't email it to you.
>>
>> When _does_ the licence on things like an old dos floppy expire or is it
>> like Shakespear, 100 years after IBM (its IBM dos) dies?

>
> There was already a juridical discusion about WfW 3.11 and Win95 on the
> Internet andm according to the US Law, the rights for software expires
> if THE manufacturer stop selling it and does not more do support for it
> (this excludes documentations, e.g. the M$ Knowledgebase)
>
> Which meanm you can Distribute all versions of MS-Dos and Windows up to
> Win95 freely.


*Absolutely* *NOT*.

http://sciencefictionobserver.blogsp...andonware.html

http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/mod...ticle&sid=1267

More importantly, copyright law still lies behind all of
these exemptions. What this means is that you can no longer
be sued under the DMCA for circumventing the copy protection
on your own 5-1/4" disk or Super Famicon game cartridge in
order to transfer the data to your computer--but copyright
law probably still prohibits you from distributing that file
to other people.

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