Hi,

I am building a linux stereo for xmas. Basically I'm making it out of
an old ibm thinkpad and an iPod w/ rockbox.
I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
want the machine to feel sluggish -- it should act like a smart stereo
component, not a slow-bu-versatile computer.

I intend to run amarok on the system -- I haven't seen anything that
comes close in terms of features and stability. THe thing is, kde
always feels REALLY slow on this machine. I mean, REALLY slow. So my
question: is it possible to install a MINIMAL kde which can handle
amarok but doesn't sap the life out of my poor l'il old cpu? if so
how would I do htis? Ir could I e.g. run a very simple wondow manager
that doesn't depend even on gtk? I am hesitant to run a mixed gtk/qt
system as I have limited resources and responsiveness is a priority.

Alternatively, is there a gtk alternative to amaork that comes close?
I haven't used banshee for a while -- how is t hat shaping up? Do its
mono dependencies make it similarly 'heavy' to amarok?

Thanks as always,
Matt


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On Friday 01 December 2006 14:24, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am building a linux stereo for xmas. Basically I'm making it out of
> an old ibm thinkpad and an iPod w/ rockbox.
> I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
> want the machine to feel sluggish -- it should act like a smart stereo
> component, not a slow-bu-versatile computer.
>
> I intend to run amarok on the system -- I haven't seen anything that
> comes close in terms of features and stability. THe thing is, kde
> always feels REALLY slow on this machine. I mean, REALLY slow. So my
> question: is it possible to install a MINIMAL kde which can handle
> amarok but doesn't sap the life out of my poor l'il old cpu? if so
> how would I do htis? Ir could I e.g. run a very simple wondow manager
> that doesn't depend even on gtk? I am hesitant to run a mixed gtk/qt
> system as I have limited resources and responsiveness is a priority.

I haven't tried it myself but I think installing amarok on a machine will just
bring in the essentials of kde that it needs to run (assuming kde isn't
already installed). You might need to install a package or ten manually if
you wanted kde to be useful for anything else.

I did that once with krusader and got a very minimal kde. Worth a try I think.

> Alternatively, is there a gtk alternative to amaork that comes close?
> I haven't used banshee for a while -- how is t hat shaping up? Do its
> mono dependencies make it similarly 'heavy' to amarok?

I find rhythmbox from gnome to be very close to amarok but I'm not sure if
it's a gtk app (I don't think so).


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On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 19:30 -0800, Alan Ianson wrote:
> I find rhythmbox from gnome to be very close to amarok but I'm not sure if
> it's a gtk app (I don't think so).

Rhythmbox is a GTK app, however, it doesn't support adding music to USB
mass storage devices (like a Rockbox player) yet.

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On Dec 01 2006, Matt Price wrote:
> I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
> want the machine to feel sluggish -- it should act like a smart stereo
> component, not a slow-bu-versatile computer.

You can install amarok only (see with aptitude what it would install)
and don't install Recommend:'s (only those you choose to install).

> Alternatively, is there a gtk alternative to amaork that comes close?

There is a package that is being evaluated to be uploaded to Debian,
called exaile, which is a clone of amarok, but written with gtk in
mind. See http://www.debian.org/debian-mentors/ for the latest
discussions.

> I haven't used banshee for a while -- how is t hat shaping up? Do its
> mono dependencies make it similarly 'heavy' to amarok?

I don't know, as usually avoid things that need a virtual machine (the
same thing with Java), but I'd be interested to know others' opinions.


Hope this s, Rogério Brito.

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You just need kdelibs4c2a(in unstable).

An alternative to Amarok can be Listen that uses pygtk(gtk in python)

On 12/3/06, Rogério Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> wrote:
>
> On Dec 01 2006, Matt Price wrote:
> > I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
> > want the machine to feel sluggish -- it should act like a smart stereo
> > component, not a slow-bu-versatile computer.
>
> You can install amarok only (see with aptitude what it would install)
> and don't install Recommend:'s (only those you choose to install).
>
> > Alternatively, is there a gtk alternative to amaork that comes close?
>
> There is a package that is being evaluated to be uploaded to Debian,
> called exaile, which is a clone of amarok, but written with gtk in
> mind. See http://www.debian.org/debian-mentors/ for the latest
> discussions.
>
> > I haven't used banshee for a while -- how is t hat shaping up? Do its
> > mono dependencies make it similarly 'heavy' to amarok?
>
> I don't know, as usually avoid things that need a virtual machine (the
> same thing with Java), but I'd be interested to know others' opinions.
>
>
> Hope this s, Rogério Brito.
>
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Matt Price wrote:
> I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
> want the machine to feel sluggish

Installed bu unused packages won't slow your computer down. They will just
take up disk space.
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> Matt Price wrote:
>> I want to install a fairly minimal set of packages as I really don't
>> want the machine to feel sluggish
>
> Installed bu unused packages won't slow your computer down. They will
> just
> take up disk space.

.... unless they run a daemon.
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