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Vieux 01/12/2006, 19h50   #1
Arlie Stephens
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Hi Folks,

Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one of
the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get at
the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix the
control center.

I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?

Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?

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Vieux 01/12/2006, 21h40   #2
Florian Kulzer
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:02:54 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
> kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
> pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one of
> the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
> I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get at
> the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix the
> control center.
>
> I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
> appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
> fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
> file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?
>
> Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
> it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?


This sounds like bug #397057 / #398734. It was supposedly fixed in
kdelibs 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-4. Which version of this package do you have
installed? (An up-to-date Etch system should have 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-5.)

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Vieux 01/12/2006, 22h00   #3
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On Saturday 02 December 2006 08:35, Florian Kulzer sent this for all our
perusal:
>---> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:02:54 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
>---> > Hi Folks,
>---> >
>---> > Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
>---> > kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
>---> > pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one
> of ---> > the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
> ---> > I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get
> at ---> > the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix
> the ---> > control center.
>---> >
>---> > I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
>---> > appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
>---> > fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
>---> > file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?
>---> >
>---> > Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
>---> > it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?
>--->
>---> This sounds like bug #397057 / #398734. It was supposedly fixed in
>---> kdelibs 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-4. Which version of this package do you have
>---> installed? (An up-to-date Etch system should have 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-5.)
>--->
>---> --
>---> Regards,
>---> Florian
>--->

No my system doesn't have that and I looked through
the /var/cache/apt/archives and that version isn't there either. I did an
apt-get update/upgrade this morning and came up empty.
But I have this version installed:-
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Version: 4:3.5.3-1
Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1), kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.5.3-1)

Maybe others only have this version installed.
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Vieux 02/12/2006, 12h50   #4
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 08:50:01 +1100, M-L wrote:
> On Saturday 02 December 2006 08:35, Florian Kulzer sent this for all our
> perusal:
> >---> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:02:54 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
> >---> > Hi Folks,
> >---> >
> >---> > Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
> >---> > kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
> >---> > pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one
> > of ---> > the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
> > ---> > I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get
> > at ---> > the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix
> > the ---> > control center.
> >---> >
> >---> > I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
> >---> > appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
> >---> > fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
> >---> > file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?
> >---> >
> >---> > Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
> >---> > it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?
> >--->
> >---> This sounds like bug #397057 / #398734. It was supposedly fixed in
> >---> kdelibs 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-4. Which version of this package do you have
> >---> installed? (An up-to-date Etch system should have 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-5.)


[...]

> No my system doesn't have that and I looked through
> the /var/cache/apt/archives and that version isn't there either. I did an
> apt-get update/upgrade this morning and came up empty.
> But I have this version installed:-
> Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers
> Architecture: all
> Version: 4:3.5.3-1
> Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1), kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.5.3-1)
>
> Maybe others only have this version installed.


What is the output of "apt-cache policy kcontrol kdelibs"?

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Vieux 04/12/2006, 19h50   #5
Arlie Stephens
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Hi Folks,

Thanks to these two people, my system no longer has this problem.
Aptitude had taken it into its addled little mind to 'hold' kdelibs
at 4.3.5a.dfsg.1-3. Overriding this (and upgrading to 4.3.5a.dfsg.1-5)
fixed the problem. Next step, debug aptitude ;-)

On Dec 02 2006, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 08:50:01 +1100, M-L wrote:
> > On Saturday 02 December 2006 08:35, Florian Kulzer sent this for all our
> > perusal:
> > >---> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 12:02:54 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote:
> > >---> > Hi Folks,
> > >---> >
> > >---> > Like several others, I've got an etch installation with kde where the
> > >---> > kde control panel is empty. The last time this came up, someone
> > >---> > pointed to a kind of lost and found within kde - it shows up as one
> > > of ---> > the directory-like choices in that application menu. Sure enough,
> > > ---> > I've got a huge lost and found menu, which will probably let me get
> > > at ---> > the various kde control center options, but what I want is to fix
> > > the ---> > control center.
> > >---> >
> > >---> > I don't know how kde works, internally. How do I get these tools to
> > >---> > appear where they belong? Am I looking for a directory tree, to be
> > >---> > fixed with mv, some text file to be editted, or (I fear) some binary
> > >---> > file to be modified only with some doubtless graphical tool?
> > >---> >
> > >---> > Also, assuming I fix whatever got misinstalled, how do I avoid having
> > >---> > it break again every time some kde component is upgraded?
> > >--->
> > >---> This sounds like bug #397057 / #398734. It was supposedly fixed in
> > >---> kdelibs 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-4. Which version of this package do you have
> > >---> installed? (An up-to-date Etch system should have 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-5.)

>
> [...]
>
> > No my system doesn't have that and I looked through
> > the /var/cache/apt/archives and that version isn't there either. I did an
> > apt-get update/upgrade this morning and came up empty.
> > But I have this version installed:-
> > Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers
> > Architecture: all
> > Version: 4:3.5.3-1
> > Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1), kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.5.3-1)
> >
> > Maybe others only have this version installed.

>
> What is the output of "apt-cache policy kcontrol kdelibs"?
>


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