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Vieux 31/05/2006, 21h33   #1
Mtn_bikers
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Hi,

I would like to sniff packet for a TCP/IP device (not a PC) in my
network. This device "talk" with another device ans I would like to
see the traffic between this two device.
I scan all the traffic with Ethereal, but I see just the traffic that I
receive (the PC with Ethereal) and the brodcast.

Someone know what is my problem?

Thanks.

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Vieux 31/05/2006, 22h15   #2
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Mtn_bikers ha escrito:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to sniff packet for a TCP/IP device (not a PC) in my
> network. This device "talk" with another device ans I would like to
> see the traffic between this two device.
> I scan all the traffic with Ethereal, but I see just the traffic that I
> receive (the PC with Ethereal) and the brodcast.
>
> Someone know what is my problem?
>
> Thanks.


How are all those devices connected??? I guess they are using a
switch...that would explain
what you are seeing. If that is the case, try using span ports.

Lokke.

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Vieux 31/05/2006, 22h29   #3
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Mtn_bikers <mtn_bikers@msn.com> wrote:
> I would like to sniff packet for a TCP/IP device (not a PC) in my
> network. This device "talk" with another device ans I would like to
> see the traffic between this two device. I scan all the traffic
> with Ethereal, but I see just the traffic that I receive (the PC
> with Ethereal) and the brodcast.


Assuming your systems are all connected via a switch or switches...

Switches perform "traffic isolation." The switch will "learn" on which
port it sees a given MAC (ethernet) address as a source and will then
send traffic destined to that MAC only to that port. Nodes on other
ports will not see the traffic even if their interfaces are in
promiscuous mode.

You either need to connect the system of interest and the sniffing
system with a _hub_ (not a switch, not a bogusly named "switching
hub") that you then connect to the switch port of the system of
interest.

Otherwise, if you have a sufficiently capable switch, you can
designate a port to be a "monitor port" or somesuch name (varies by
switch) and that traffic to/from another port should be
mirrored/monitored onto that port.

rick jones
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Vieux 31/05/2006, 23h12   #4
David H. Lipman
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From: "Mtn_bikers" <mtn_bikers@msn.com>

| Hi,
|
| I would like to sniff packet for a TCP/IP device (not a PC) in my
| network. This device "talk" with another device ans I would like to
| see the traffic between this two device.
| I scan all the traffic with Ethereal, but I see just the traffic that I
| receive (the PC with Ethereal) and the brodcast.
|
| Someone know what is my problem?
|
| Thanks.

The PC with Ethereal needs to be on a hub, not an Ethwernet Switch, and needs a promiscuous
NIC and drivers on the same network as the TCP/IP device/appliance.

--
Dave
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http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Vieux 01/06/2006, 13h22   #5
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The PC with ethereal is on the same "HUB" of my first device. If I
telnet the device from this PC I saw the packet but if the device talk
to another device, I don't see anything.

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Vieux 01/06/2006, 22h13   #6
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From: "Mtn_bikers" <mtn_bikers@msn.com>

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| The PC with ethereal is on the same "HUB" of my first device. If I
| telnet the device from this PC I saw the packet but if the device talk
| to another device, I don't see anything.

You need to have a promiscuous LAN adapter on the Ethereal based platform.

--
Dave
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http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Vieux 01/06/2006, 22h48   #7
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Mtn_bikers <mtn_bikers@msn.com> wrote:
> The PC with ethereal is on the same "HUB" of my first device. If I
> telnet the device from this PC I saw the packet but if the device talk
> to another device, I don't see anything.


Since you put "HUB" in quotes, is it at all possible that it is really
a switch? I'm not sure it is conclusive, but if you can get
full-duplex, I believe that means it is a switch and not a hub and so
the previous post(s) about switches and traffic isolation would apply.

Assuming of course that ethereal is indeed putting the interface into
promiscuous mode.

rick jones
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