I was just wondering if something was going on.

A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.

It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
. Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, David L. Aldridge wrote:

>
> I was just wondering if something was going on.
>
> A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
> Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.
>
> It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
> . Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
> touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?

Traffic has just been low thats all, guess thast a good sign really


--

Cheers
Res

In article <unrdd3l2rl22mo5gve9fvtjaq2vsfi3229@4ax.com> David
L. Aldridge <dlac@aldridge.com> writes:
>I was just wondering if something was going on.
>
>A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
>Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.
>
>It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
>. Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
>touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?

I'm still here:-), at least now and then. But even taking into account
that people are off on vacations and such, I'm afraid it's a clear
long-term trend that the volume of postings here is steadily decreasing.
Whether that is because people are increasingly happy with their
sendmail setup, or because sendmail has a steadily decreasing number of
users, or because technical/text groups on Usenet in general have a
steadily decreasing number of users (the youngsters don't know that
Usenet exists...), I don't know. I'm also not aware of (actually pretty
sure that there doesn't exist) any other discussion forum dedicated to
sendmail.

--Per Hedeland
per@hedeland.org

Per Hedeland wrote:
> >
> >It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
> >. Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
> >touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?

> I'm still here:-), at least now and then. But even taking into account
> that people are off on vacations and such, I'm afraid it's a clear
> long-term trend that the volume of postings here is steadily decreasing.
> Whether that is because people are increasingly happy with their
> sendmail setup, or because sendmail has a steadily decreasing number of
> users,

I can speak only for myself, I have already migrated 3 installations
from sendmail to exim, and will migrate another one tonight.

It has just turned out that exim has an excellent documentation, suits
my needs better than sendmail, is more convenient to configure, and
seems to have a better security history.

Still I have about a dozen sendmails, but mostly in the role of MSA
sending daily reports and crontab mails from FreeBSD servers.

And yes, we have a Communigate too.

--
Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

per@hedeland.org (Per Hedeland) writes:

> In article <unrdd3l2rl22mo5gve9fvtjaq2vsfi3229@4ax.com> David
> L. Aldridge <dlac@aldridge.com> writes:
>>I was just wondering if something was going on.
>>
>>A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
>>Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.
>>
>>It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
>>. Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
>>touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?
>
> I'm still here:-), at least now and then. But even taking into account
> that people are off on vacations and such, I'm afraid it's a clear
> long-term trend that the volume of postings here is steadily decreasing.
> Whether that is because people are increasingly happy with their
> sendmail setup, or because sendmail has a steadily decreasing number of
> users, or because technical/text groups on Usenet in general have a
> steadily decreasing number of users (the youngsters don't know that
> Usenet exists...), I don't know.

It is a mix of all of the above :-)

> I'm also not aware of (actually pretty sure that there doesn't exist)
> any other discussion forum dedicated to sendmail.

You have not added the magic phrase "of similar quality" :-)

--
[pl>en: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
Ten persons who speak make more noise than ten thousand who are silent.
-- Napoleon I

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.mail.sendmail, in article
<unrdd3l2rl22mo5gve9fvtjaq2vsfi3229@4ax.com>, David L. Aldridge wrote:

>I was just wondering if something was going on.

Didn't you get the memo?

>A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
>Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.

[compton ~]$ grep ^08 newslog | grep sendmail | grep killed | cut -d' '
-f1,4 | cut -d'/' -f1-3 | column -x
08/01/2007 15 08/02/2007 42 08/03/2007 26 08/04/2007 25 08/05/2007 10
08/06/2007 12 08/07/2007 19 08/08/2007 11 08/09/2007 15 08/10/2007 2
08/11/2007 13 08/12/2007 1 08/13/2007 3 08/14/2007 4 08/15/2007 5
08/16/2007 16 08/17/2007 22 08/18/2007 15 08/19/2007 5 08/20/2007 17
08/21/2007 32 08/22/2007 7 08/23/2007 7 08/24/2007 13 08/25/2007 15
08/26/2007 1 08/27/2007 3 08/28/2007 9 08/29/2007 22 08/30/2007 31
08/31/2007 20
[compton ~]$

That's what was available at ~13:00 UTC on each date at giganews - which
appears to be the server you are posting from. This does show several days
with very few posts, but never a 24 hour period with no new articles
available. Could you be having finger problems with a killfile or something?

Going back further;

1/07 2/07 3/07 4/07 5/07 6/07 7/07 8/07
560 558 565 595 463 449 369 438

1H03 2H03 1H04 2H04 1H05 2H05 1H06 2H06 1H07
12374 11148 8904 4998 4145 3259 3631 3540 3190

so yes, postings have been decreasing over the longer term, but the group
seems to be alive and well. Actually, if you look at similar statistics
for other Usenet newsgroups, you'll find the same general trend of
decreasing article counts, but to paraphrase Sam Clemens (aka, Mark Twain)
"the announcement of my death was premature".

Old guy

* Per Hedeland wrote:
> In article <unrdd3l2rl22mo5gve9fvtjaq2vsfi3229@4ax.com> David
> L. Aldridge <dlac@aldridge.com> writes:
>> I was just wondering if something was going on.
>>
>> A month or so ago, i stopped finding any new postings on the list.
>> Activity is now back, but at a much reduced rate.
>>
>> It sort of feels like most participants have left and no one told me.
>> . Is it lack of interest or is there now a better place to stay in
>> touch with Sendmail, Per and the rest?
>
> I'm still here:-), at least now and then. But even taking into account
> that people are off on vacations and such, I'm afraid it's a clear
> long-term trend that the volume of postings here is steadily decreasing.
> Whether that is because people are increasingly happy with their
> sendmail setup, or because sendmail has a steadily decreasing number of
> users,

Imminent Death of sendmail predicted. :-)

> or because technical/text groups on Usenet in general have a
> steadily decreasing number of users (the youngsters don't know that
> Usenet exists...),

Hey Now!!
I'm not old yet.

I don't know. I'm also not aware of (actually pretty
> sure that there doesn't exist) any other discussion forum dedicated to
> sendmail.
>
> --Per Hedeland
> per@hedeland.org