I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned up
nothing.

I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.

I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to a
IMAP user.

For example:

mail username

results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.

I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.

Thanks,

Andy

Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:

> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
> up nothing.
>
> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>
> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
> a IMAP user.
>
> For example:
>
> mail username
>
> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>
> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.

What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]

# "this host" email name seen by MSA
echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
# "this host" email name seen by MTA
echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
# list of local email domains seen by MTA
echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt

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Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>> up nothing.
>>
>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>
>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>> a IMAP user.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> mail username
>>
>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>
>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.

Andrzej,

> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]


> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
furball.localdomain

> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
furball.localdomain
> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
[172.16.1.14]
localhost.localdomain
furball
localhost
furball2


Thanks,

Andy

Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>> up nothing.
>>>
>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>> a IMAP user.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> mail username
>>>
>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>
>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>
> Andrzej,
>
>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>
>
>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
> furball.localdomain
>
>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
> furball.localdomain
>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
> [172.16.1.14]
> localhost.localdomain
> furball
> localhost
> furball2

*Fast* fix:
Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
(among other things) at the link below:
http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5

It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
sending to "internet recipients".

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"Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi@onet.eu> wrote in message
news:87zm4yge69.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>>> up nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>>> a IMAP user.
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>>
>>>> mail username
>>>>
>>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>>
>> Andrzej,
>>
>>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>>
>>
>>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
>> furball.localdomain
>>
>>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
>> furball.localdomain
>>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
>> [172.16.1.14]
>> localhost.localdomain
>> furball
>> localhost
>> furball2
>
> *Fast* fix:
> Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
> (among other things) at the link below:
> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
>
> It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
> sending to "internet recipients".
>
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> Before You Ask: http://anfi.homeunix.net/sendmail/B4UAsk-Sendmail.html

Oddly enough I have the same problem, and my local-host-names file seems
correct. My syslog indicates that sendmail doesn't recognize my own mail.

A quirk here might be that the DNS for "mydomain.com" defaults to another
machine, and I'm only trying to handle mail for "mymachine.mydomain.com".
But I'm lost.


>>echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
myhost.mydomain.com

>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
myhost.mydomain.com

>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
loopback
[loopback]
localhost.mydomain.com
mail1.mydomain.com
myhost.mydomain.com

Every one of these is in my local-host-names file. I confirmed that my
sendmail.cf contains:
Fw/etc/mail/local-host-names

I could use a smart idea here.

Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>>> up nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>>> a IMAP user.
>>>>
>>>> For example:
>>>>
>>>> mail username
>>>>
>>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>> Andrzej,
>>
>>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>>
>>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
>> furball.localdomain
>>
>>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
>> furball.localdomain
>>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
>> [172.16.1.14]
>> localhost.localdomain
>> furball
>> localhost
>> furball2
>
> *Fast* fix:
> Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
> (among other things) at the link below:
> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
>
> It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
> sending to "internet recipients".
>

Andrzej,

You're right, now I'm having problems with sending mail. I have my ISP
defined as a SMART_HOST. When mail gets sent from my local machine, the
sender is jeremy@furball.localdomain. The ISP's sendmail rejects that
because jeremy@furball.localdomain does not exist.

From reading the Sendmail book, it looks like I have to write a S= rule
for the "relay" mailer, but I haven't figured out how to do that. I
guess a need a map that translates local machine users to one of my mail
addresses at my ISP.

Any hints on how I do that?

Thanks,

Andy

Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>>>> up nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>>>> a IMAP user.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> mail username
>>>>>
>>>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>>> Andrzej,
>>>
>>>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>>>
>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
>>> furball.localdomain
>>>
>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
>>> furball.localdomain
>>>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
>>> [172.16.1.14]
>>> localhost.localdomain
>>> furball
>>> localhost
>>> furball2
>>
>> *Fast* fix:
>> Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
>> (among other things) at the link below:
>> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
>>
>> It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
>> sending to "internet recipients".
>>
>
> Andrzej,
>
> You're right, now I'm having problems with sending mail. I
> have my ISP defined as a SMART_HOST. When mail gets sent from my local
> machine, the sender is jeremy@furball.localdomain. The ISP's sendmail
> rejects that because jeremy@furball.localdomain does not exist.
>
> From reading the Sendmail book, it looks like I have to write a S=
> rule for the "relay" mailer, but I haven't figured out how to do
> that. I guess a need a map that translates local machine users to one
> of my mail addresses at my ISP.
>
> Any hints on how I do that?

You may choose one of the recipes below:
* assign your host "internet visible name"
[ another host may act as email gateway for incoming messages ]
http://www.sendmail.org/m4/whoami.html
* make your sendmail masquerade as different host
http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html

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"Jack Gostl" <gostl@argoscomp.com> writes:

> "Andrzej Adam Filip" <anfi@onet.eu> wrote in message
> news:87zm4yge69.fsf@anfi.homeunix.net...
>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>>>> up nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>>>> a IMAP user.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> mail username
>>>>>
>>>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>>>
>>> Andrzej,
>>>
>>>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>>>
>>>
>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
>>> furball.localdomain
>>>
>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
>>> furball.localdomain
>>>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
>>> [172.16.1.14]
>>> localhost.localdomain
>>> furball
>>> localhost
>>> furball2
>>
>> *Fast* fix:
>> Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
>> (among other things) at the link below:
>> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
>>
>> It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
>> sending to "internet recipients".
>
> Oddly enough I have the same problem, and my local-host-names file seems
> correct. My syslog indicates that sendmail doesn't recognize my own mail.
>
> A quirk here might be that the DNS for "mydomain.com" defaults to another
> machine, and I'm only trying to handle mail for "mymachine.mydomain.com".
> But I'm lost.
>
>
>>>echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
> myhost.mydomain.com
>
>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
> myhost.mydomain.com
>
>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
> loopback
> [loopback]
> localhost.mydomain.com
> mail1.mydomain.com
> myhost.mydomain.com
>
> Every one of these is in my local-host-names file. I confirmed that my
> sendmail.cf contains:
> Fw/etc/mail/local-host-names
>
> I could use a smart idea here.

"First to check" explanation:
Sendmail daemon "remembers" local-host-names as it was when sendmail
daemon was started or HUPed.

Restart (or HUP) your sendmail daemon before checking more sinister causes.

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Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure this has a simple answer, but but 4-5 hours searching turned
>>>>>> up nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have sendmail, cyrus imap and fetchmail setup. I can grab mail with
>>>>>> fetchmail and deliver it to a IMAP user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't figure out how to get mail from the local machine delivered to
>>>>>> a IMAP user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mail username
>>>>>>
>>>>>> results in mail being sent to username@myhost.localhost. Sendmail does
>>>>>> not know how to deliver that. I want it to deliver to username.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried the nocanonify feature, but no luck.
>>>> Andrzej,
>>>>
>>>>> What is reported by the test command below? [executed by root]
>>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MSA
>>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -Ac -bt
>>>> furball.localdomain
>>>>
>>>>> # "this host" email name seen by MTA
>>>>> echo '$j' | sendmail -bt
>>>> furball.localdomain
>>>>> # list of local email domains seen by MTA
>>>>> echo '$=w' | sendmail -bt
>>>> [172.16.1.14]
>>>> localhost.localdomain
>>>> furball
>>>> localhost
>>>> furball2
>>> *Fast* fix:
>>> Add furball.localdomain to list of local email domains as described
>>> (among other things) at the link below:
>>> http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5
>>>
>>> It should solve "local to local" mailings but you will face problems
>>> sending to "internet recipients".
>>>
>> Andrzej,
>>
>> You're right, now I'm having problems with sending mail. I
>> have my ISP defined as a SMART_HOST. When mail gets sent from my local
>> machine, the sender is jeremy@furball.localdomain. The ISP's sendmail
>> rejects that because jeremy@furball.localdomain does not exist.
>>
>> From reading the Sendmail book, it looks like I have to write a S=
>> rule for the "relay" mailer, but I haven't figured out how to do
>> that. I guess a need a map that translates local machine users to one
>> of my mail addresses at my ISP.
>>
>> Any hints on how I do that?
>
> You may choose one of the recipes below:
> * assign your host "internet visible name"
> [ another host may act as email gateway for incoming messages ]
> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/whoami.html
> * make your sendmail masquerade as different host
> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html
>

Andrzej,

Thanks. That gets me half-way there. With MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain')
and FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

My mail is going out with the domain masqueraded, but not the user. The
user name on my local machines, andy, is not the same as my email at my
ISP. How do I map the sender? I also want things from root to get
forwarded to me. I can setup an alias to forward, but the sender will
still be root. Is there a generic way to map the sender name?

Thanks,

Andy

Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>> [...]
>>> You're right, now I'm having problems with sending mail. I
>>> have my ISP defined as a SMART_HOST. When mail gets sent from my local
>>> machine, the sender is jeremy@furball.localdomain. The ISP's sendmail
>>> rejects that because jeremy@furball.localdomain does not exist.
>>>
>>> From reading the Sendmail book, it looks like I have to write a S=
>>> rule for the "relay" mailer, but I haven't figured out how to do
>>> that. I guess a need a map that translates local machine users to one
>>> of my mail addresses at my ISP.
>>>
>>> Any hints on how I do that?
>>
>> You may choose one of the recipes below:
>> * assign your host "internet visible name"
>> [ another host may act as email gateway for incoming messages ]
>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/whoami.html
>> * make your sendmail masquerade as different host
>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html
>
> Thanks. That gets me half-way there. With
> MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain') and FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')
>
> My mail is going out with the domain masqueraded, but not the
> user. The user name on my local machines, andy, is not the same as my
> email at my ISP. How do I map the sender? I also want things from root
> to get forwarded to me. I can setup an alias to forward, but the
> sender will still be root. Is there a generic way to map the sender
> name?

You can use FEATURE(`genericstable') to get "per user" masquerading.
http://www.sendmail.org/tips/virtual-hosting.php

BTW consider using FEATURE(`allmasquerade') in addition to
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope').
* by default sendmail masquearades only "From:" header (senders in headers)
* allmasquerade masquerades also "To:"/"Cc:"/... headers (recipients in headers)
* masquerade_envelope masquerades envelope sender

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Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>> Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>> You're right, now I'm having problems with sending mail. I
>>>> have my ISP defined as a SMART_HOST. When mail gets sent from my local
>>>> machine, the sender is jeremy@furball.localdomain. The ISP's sendmail
>>>> rejects that because jeremy@furball.localdomain does not exist.
>>>>
>>>> From reading the Sendmail book, it looks like I have to write a S=
>>>> rule for the "relay" mailer, but I haven't figured out how to do
>>>> that. I guess a need a map that translates local machine users to one
>>>> of my mail addresses at my ISP.
>>>>
>>>> Any hints on how I do that?
>>> You may choose one of the recipes below:
>>> * assign your host "internet visible name"
>>> [ another host may act as email gateway for incoming messages ]
>>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/whoami.html
>>> * make your sendmail masquerade as different host
>>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html
>> Thanks. That gets me half-way there. With
>> MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain') and FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')
>>
>> My mail is going out with the domain masqueraded, but not the
>> user. The user name on my local machines, andy, is not the same as my
>> email at my ISP. How do I map the sender? I also want things from root
>> to get forwarded to me. I can setup an alias to forward, but the
>> sender will still be root. Is there a generic way to map the sender
>> name?
>
> You can use FEATURE(`genericstable') to get "per user" masquerading.
> http://www.sendmail.org/tips/virtual-hosting.php
>
> BTW consider using FEATURE(`allmasquerade') in addition to
> FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope').
> * by default sendmail masquearades only "From:" header (senders in headers)
> * allmasquerade masquerades also "To:"/"Cc:"/... headers (recipients in headers)
> * masquerade_envelope masquerades envelope sender
>

Andrzej,

THANK YOU! That was what I needed. I added:

FEATURE(`genericstable')dnl
FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain')dnl
GENERICS_DOMAIN(`localdomain')dnl

and made a genericstable

What better way to spend a Sunday than reading the Sendmail book and
loosing a little hair. At least I know a bit more about sendmail now

Thanks again for your .

Andy

Andy Howell <spam-andy-be-howell-gone@austin.rr.com> writes:
> [...]
> What better way to spend a Sunday than reading the Sendmail book and
> loosing a little hair. At least I know a bit more about sendmail now
>
> Thanks again for your .

Sendmail is simple *after* ;-)

It is sad that there is no "sendmail wiki".

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