Hello,

I have done some programming, mostly on embedded systems but now I would
feel like I have to learn good development practices (i.e programmer's
good manners). Let's say I want to build an application using some
established open source library or application. Do I just download the
source and hack away? Or I'd better do it in some controlled manner, i.e
set up some source control system so that I can always compute the diffs
from the original code? Or maybe I should try to keep my changes
separate from the original code base? How do I do it?

Where do I learn about things like that? I'm sorry for asking this here,
where we dicuss standard-compliant C/C++ programming, but I really don't
know any other place now. I do program in C/C++.

Regards,
Nickolai Leschov

Nickolai Leschov wrote:
> [..] I
> would feel like I have to learn good development practices [..]
>
> Where do I learn about things like that? I'm sorry for asking this
> here, where we dicuss standard-compliant C/C++ programming, but I
> really don't know any other place now. I do program in C/C++.

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On Jan 17, 2:03 pm, Nickolai Leschov <nlesc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,

Hi, Nickolai

[snip]
> Where do I learn about things like that? I'm sorry for asking this here,
> where we dicuss standard-compliant C/C++ programming, but I really don't
> know any other place now. I do program in C/C++.

OK, first thing is to recognize that there is no such thing as
"standard-compliant C/C++ programming", because there is no standard
that defines something called "C/C++".

However, there /are/ standards for the C language, and /different/
standards for the C++ language. You are going to have to choose which
language you want to learn about wrt "standard-compliant" programming.
If you are planning to program in /both/ C and C++, you'll have to
learn both standards, and a bunch of things about inter-language calls
(which, IIRC, the C++ standard talks about, but the C standard does
not).

Having said all that, neither comp.lang.c nor comp.lang.c++ seem to me
to be the best place to discuss the theory of "standard-compliant
programming". Both of these newsgroups discuss the practice of
"standard-compliant programming", and try to leave the theory to other
groups.

HTH
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"Lew Pitcher" <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
>
> OK, first thing is to recognize that there is no such thing as
> "standard-compliant C/C++ programming", because there is no standard
> that defines something called "C/C++".
>
Standards-compilant C/C++ would be a language that anyone would call C, or C
with a few twiddles, but actually conforms to the C++ standard.
Many thousands of such programs are written.

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Malcolm McLean wrote:
>
> "Lew Pitcher" <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
>>
>> OK, first thing is to recognize that there is no such thing as
>> "standard-compliant C/C++ programming", because there is no standard
>> that defines something called "C/C++".
>>
> Standards-compilant C/C++ would be a language that anyone would call C,
> or C with a few twiddles, but actually conforms to the C++ standard.
> Many thousands of such programs are written.

Or a language that anyone would call C++, or C++ with a few twiddles,
but actually conforms to the C standard. Many thousands of such
programs are written.

Your parochialism is showing. The fact is that there is no C/C++
language, and no standard to conform to. Not to bother with the obvious
point that the expression 'C/C++' is a violation of the standards of
either C or C++.

Malcolm McLean wrote:
> "Lew Pitcher" <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> wrote in message
>
>> OK, first thing is to recognize that there is no such thing as
>> "standard-compliant C/C++ programming", because there is no
>> standard that defines something called "C/C++".
>
> Standards-compilant C/C++ would be a language that anyone would
> call C, or C with a few twiddles, but actually conforms to the
> C++ standard. Many thousands of such programs are written.

No. Run the following program to get the idea:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void) {
int C;

C = rand(void);
if (C) printf("C / C++ == %d\n", C / C++);
else printf("C / C++ is undefined\n");
return 0;
}

and I expect the vast majority of results to be the value 1.

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Nickolai Leschov a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I have done some programming, mostly on embedded systems but now I would
> feel like I have to learn good development practices (i.e programmer's
> good manners). Let's say I want to build an application using some
> established open source library or application. Do I just download the
> source and hack away? Or I'd better do it in some controlled manner, i.e
> set up some source control system so that I can always compute the diffs
> from the original code? Or maybe I should try to keep my changes
> separate from the original code base? How do I do it?
>
> Where do I learn about things like that? I'm sorry for asking this here,
> where we dicuss standard-compliant C/C++ programming, but I really don't
> know any other place now. I do program in C/C++.

You can learn some of it from de Herb Sutter and Andrei Alexandrescu:
http://www.amazon.fr/Coding-Standard.../dp/0321113586

Michael

Victor Bazarov wrote:

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