Keith Thompson wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
> do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
> others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
> using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
> like in the header lines.

Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

CBFalconer wrote:
> Keith Thompson wrote:
> .... snip ...
>> Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>> do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>> others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>> using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>> like in the header lines.
>
> Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous.

True.

> A one line added sig
> by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.
>

Only them, I don't sae others flocking to use their service...

--
Ian Collins.

CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson wrote:
>>
> ... snip ...
>>
>> Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>> do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>> others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>> using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>> like in the header lines.
>
> Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
> by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.
>
> --
> Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
> Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
> <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

It's adding *six* lines. After your own signature, there are three
blank lines, the "-- " delimiter, the "Posted via ..." message, and
another blank line.

I'm assuming the three blank lines aren't part of your own signature.
If they are, I suggest you remove them. Removing the trailing
new-line at the end of the last line of your own signature (if you can
do so) might also . (If you could fool teranews into putting the
"-- " on the end of the last line of your own signature, that would
probably silence most objections.)

If the teranews folks insist in adding an advertisement to each posted
article, I suppose that's not entirely unreasonable in exchange for a
(nearly) free account. But they *should* append no more than a line
or two, and they *shouldn't* append a "--" delimiter if the article
already has one. For example, if each of your articles ended with:

| --
| Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
| Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
| <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
| Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

that would be just fine.

I'd complain to teranews myself (and I still might), but I think a
complaint from one of their users would have more impact -- and, oddly
enough, I think you're the only teranews free account user I've seen.

So far, I've been mostly sympathetic to you on this issue. It will be
easier for me to continue being sympathetic if you're willing to take
the time to talk to teranews.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst>
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

Keith Thompson wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> If the teranews folks insist in adding an advertisement to each posted
> article, I suppose that's not entirely unreasonable in exchange for a
> (nearly) free account. But they *should* append no more than a line
> or two, and they *shouldn't* append a "--" delimiter if the article
> already has one. For example, if each of your articles ended with:
>
>| --
>| Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
>| Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
>| <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
>| Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
> that would be just fine.
>
> I'd complain to teranews myself (and I still might), but I think a
> complaint from one of their users would have more impact -- and, oddly
> enough, I think you're the only teranews free account user I've seen.
>
> So far, I've been mostly sympathetic to you on this issue. It will be
> easier for me to continue being sympathetic if you're willing to take
> the time to talk to teranews.

Actually I have ISP problems with email, which I can only conquer
by sending email from yet another URL based system (and including
instructions about replies). I have emailed Teranews several
times, and never received an answer. One of these days I shall try
changing to Thunderbird, but so far I haven't found out how to make
it operate off-line and synchronize. I wouldn't even be using
teranews if my own ISPs linkage still worked. It used to, and then
they diddled something, which brought on all my troubles and work
arounds. Complaints to them don't work either, and I am reluctant
to change ISPs because the email address will foul up. It has
something to do with security. Also bear in mind that I connect
via the dial-up system, and want to keep the phone line free.

At any rate the history has made me extremely reluctant to change
anything.

(And yes - my sigs have no excess trailing blank lines.) Note that
a blank line adds only two bytes to the transmission, and to any
possible storage file. Trivial.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47229043.7605F2D4@yahoo.com...
[snip]
> At any rate the history has made me extremely reluctant to change
> anything.
>
> (And yes - my sigs have no excess trailing blank lines.) Note that
> a blank line adds only two bytes to the transmission, and to any
> possible storage file. Trivial.
>
> --
> Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
> Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
> <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

I wonder if my teranews account will do the same goofy thing.
We'll know in a minute.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Dann Corbit wrote:
>
> I wonder if my teranews account will do the same goofy thing.
> We'll know in a minute.
>
It did. Time to pay news.individual.net a visit...

--
Ian Collins.

CBFalconer said:

> Keith Thompson wrote:
>>
> ... snip ...
>>
>> Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>> do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>> others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>> using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>> like in the header lines.
>
> Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
> by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.

Failure to snip sigs in a quote doesn't cause *serious* problems for anyone
either. And your point?

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

Richard Heathfield wrote:
> CBFalconer said:
>> Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>
>> ... snip ...
>>>
>>> Chuck: If you haven't complained to your Usenet provider, please
>>> do so. Mention that their interface is causing problems for
>>> others, not just for you, and is likely to discourage others from
>>> using their services. They can put all the advertisements they
>>> like in the header lines.
>>
>> Frankly I consider all this fuss ridiculous. A one line added sig
>> by the news-server is not causing serious problems for anyone.
>
> Failure to snip sigs in a quote doesn't cause *serious* problems
> for anyone either. And your point?

Ah, but that piles up and interferes with further correspondence.
The extra lines simply require a slightly longer snip, or a
complaint to the newsreader programmer that they do not delete
complete sigs in a reply, or an actual snip by the poor overworked
replier.

Unless they are involved in the discussion, I don't think you will
ever find unsnipped sigs in my replies, and very rarely (usually to
make a point) overlong lines. This doesn't occupy reams of time,
and is fully within the capabilities of the poorest typist.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com