I have purchased a "cheapo" domain name (for the purpose of selling my home)
from a popular seach engine site, but the downfall is that unless I display
an ad, I have to show the redirect IP address. i.e www.mynew-domainname.com
points to my server IP and it is now displayed while users are surfing my
site.

My question is: Is there a way around this, e.g. by specifying the server
name in my httpd.conf and/or specifying a new DNS server that is running on
my server. I have some control over A record, C name, and primary and
secondary nameservers. Can I create links on my website to
www.mynew-domainname.com/somedir without it linking back to the homepage due
to the redirection limitation.

I am root user on my server, using comcast as ISP OS sol 8, and apache 1.39(I
believe).

Thanks

MikeD

newsreader <cc0101172@minix.midltn01.nj.comcast.net> wrote:
> I have purchased a "cheapo" domain name (for the purpose of selling my home)
> from a popular seach engine site, but the downfall is that unless I display
> an ad, I have to show the redirect IP address. i.e www.mynew-domainname.com
> points to my server IP and it is now displayed while users are surfing my
> site.

Couldn't you just tell your domain name? Otherwise it's not
really clear what you've got.

--
andrei

I chose not to publish my domain name as I am monitering hits to my site to
see how much interest my house sale is generating.

lets just say I bought www.mydname.com and yahoo forwards this to
http://69.7.239.163/housesale

yahoo gives me control over the following:
A Name mydname.com
A Name www.mydname.com
CNAME *.mydname.com
CNAME mail.mydname.com

I can add records and I am allowed to specify two nameservers, currently
defaulting to yns1.yahoo.com and yns2.yahoo.com

For example, when users click www.mydname.com yahoo forwards them to, lets
say, http://69.7.239.163/housesale. They have the IP address in the url
toolbar of their browser. I would like to stop this. I wondered if
modifying my httpd.conf to specify domainname as www.mydname.com and maybe
some virtual host trickery in addition to setting up a dns server on my
solaris box 69.7.239.163 would be the way to go. Is this possible? Can I
avoid showing my IP address, it just doesn't look professional. Yahoo wants
me to display their ad to do this. I thought there must be some way around
this.

I hope this clarifies my problem.

Thanks

Mike D



"Andrei Ivanov" <iva@racoon.riga.lv> wrote in message
news:3fffheF77sqrU1@individual.net...
> newsreader <cc0101172@minix.midltn01.nj.comcast.net> wrote:
>> I have purchased a "cheapo" domain name (for the purpose of selling my
>> home)
>> from a popular seach engine site, but the downfall is that unless I
>> display
>> an ad, I have to show the redirect IP address. i.e
>> www.mynew-domainname.com
>> points to my server IP and it is now displayed while users are surfing my
>> site.
>
> Couldn't you just tell your domain name? Otherwise it's not
> really clear what you've got.
>
> --
> andrei

On Mon, 23 May 2005 20:01:58 -0500,
newsreader <cc0101172@minix.midltn01.nj.comcast.net> posted:

> I have purchased a "cheapo" domain name (for the purpose of selling my home)
> from a popular seach engine site, but the downfall is that unless I display
> an ad, I have to show the redirect IP address. i.e www.mynew-domainname.com
> points to my server IP and it is now displayed while users are surfing my
> site.

For something as transient as selling your own house, why not spend a tiny
bit extra for a better service, since you won't have to be shelling out for
it for years and years? There are a multitude of very cheap services that
will do what you want. We're only talking a matter of a few dollars, to do
it right, not hundreds.

> My question is: Is there a way around this, e.g. by specifying the server
> name in my httpd.conf and/or specifying a new DNS server that is running on
> my server.

It isn't going to you unless your DNS record points to the IP in use,
which it sounds like it isn't, because you're using a redirect.

Messing with frames can hide your IP from casual observers, but do you more
harm than good in various other ways (search for "frames are evil" to save
me typing them all in here).

--
If you insist on e-mailing me, use the reply-to address (it's real but
temporary). But please reply to the group, like you're supposed to.

This message was sent without a virus, please delete some files yourself.

Mike Dundas <mdundas@nospamthanks.comcast.net> wrote:
> lets just say I bought www.mydname.com and yahoo forwards this to
> http://69.7.239.163/housesale
>
> yahoo gives me control over the following:
> A Name mydname.com
> A Name www.mydname.com

Both A-records, for "mydname.com" and "www.mydname.com",
should point to the same ip address, 69.7.239.163.

> CNAME *.mydname.com

Perhaps you don't need this (above).

> modifying my httpd.conf to specify domainname as www.mydname.com and maybe
> some virtual host trickery in addition to setting up a dns server on my
> solaris box 69.7.239.163 would be the way to go. Is this possible?

If you're using Apache, then in its config file you'll have something
like this

<VirtualHost 69.7.239.163:80>
ServerName www.mydname.com
ServerAlias mydname.com
...
</VirtualHost>

As a result, whenever web user will enter either http://mydname.com/,
or http://www.mydname.com/, he'll be directed to Apache daemon running
at 69.7.239.163, and this daemon will have enough information to
serve the same content for both 2nd and 3rd level domain.

--
andrei

Mike Dundas <mdundas@nospamthanks.comcast.net> wrote:
>>> www.mydname.com. 20S IN CNAME premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net.
>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.46
>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.47
>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.44
>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.45
>
> I then tried switching ServerName to mydname.com and alias to
> www.mydname.com but this didn't work either.

You've mentioned that you have control over your DNS records.
And I suggested that "both A-records, for "mydname.com" and
"www.mydname.com", should point to the same ip address,
69.7.239.163".

Right now the "mydname.com" domain name resolves to four
IP addresses. The "www.mydname.com" domain name also points
to the same IPs (premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net). Instead, both
should point to IP address of your own web server, 69.7.239.163.

Dig's output should report something like this:

mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
www.mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163

Or this:

mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
www.mydname.com. 30m IN CNAME mydname.com.

Can you do that?

--
andrei

Andrei Ivanov <iva@racoon.riga.lv> wrote:
> Mike Dundas <mdundas@nospamthanks.comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> www.mydname.com. 20S IN CNAME premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net.
>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.46
>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.47
>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.44
>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.45
>>
>> I then tried switching ServerName to mydname.com and alias to
>> www.mydname.com but this didn't work either.
>
> You've mentioned that you have control over your DNS records.
> And I suggested that "both A-records, for "mydname.com" and
> "www.mydname.com", should point to the same ip address,
> 69.7.239.163".
>
> Right now the "mydname.com" domain name resolves to four
> IP addresses. The "www.mydname.com" domain name also points
> to the same IPs (premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net). Instead, both
> should point to IP address of your own web server, 69.7.239.163.
>
> Dig's output should report something like this:
>
> mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
> www.mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
>
> Or this:
>
> mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
> www.mydname.com. 30m IN CNAME mydname.com.
>
> Can you do that?
>
Andrei

I changed the A Record for www.mydname.com and mydname to point to
my IP but then yahoo somehow links the dominnames to a default homepage
which is basically a template on yahoo with rigid structure. I really dont
have much control over it and cannot embed html in the template.

If I set the "domain forward" to my ipaddress it goes to my site. As I
said I had it working for mydname.com (for a while at least) but adding
www to the domainname just sends me to the IP address and shows doc root.

should I have to add entries to Listen and BindAddress etc or just the
Virtual hosts directives?

I do have control over the Nameservers. Are these the authoritative servers?
If I were to set up DNS or Bind on my server is this an option, or is this a
huge task!

Thanks again,

Mike D

On Fri, 27 May 2005, newsreader <cc0101172@minix.midltn01.nj.comcast.net>
wrote:
> Andrei Ivanov <iva@racoon.riga.lv> wrote:
>> Mike Dundas <mdundas@nospamthanks.comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> www.mydname.com. 20S IN CNAME premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net.
>>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.46
>>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.47
>>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.44
>>>>> premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net. 1m16s IN A 68.142.234.45
>>>
>>> I then tried switching ServerName to mydname.com and alias to
>>> www.mydname.com but this didn't work either.
>>
>> You've mentioned that you have control over your DNS records.
>> And I suggested that "both A-records, for "mydname.com" and
>> "www.mydname.com", should point to the same ip address,
>> 69.7.239.163".
>>
>> Right now the "mydname.com" domain name resolves to four
>> IP addresses. The "www.mydname.com" domain name also points
>> to the same IPs (premium5.geo.yahoo.akadns.net). Instead, both
>> should point to IP address of your own web server, 69.7.239.163.
>>
>> Dig's output should report something like this:
>>
>> mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
>> www.mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
>>
>> Or this:
>>
>> mydname.com. 30m IN A 69.7.239.163
>> www.mydname.com. 30m IN CNAME mydname.com.
>>
>> Can you do that?
>>
> Andrei
>
> I changed the A Record for www.mydname.com and mydname to point to
> my IP but then yahoo somehow links the dominnames to a default homepage
> which is basically a template on yahoo with rigid structure. I really dont
> have much control over it and cannot embed html in the template.
>
> If I set the "domain forward" to my ipaddress it goes to my site. As I
> said I had it working for mydname.com (for a while at least) but adding
> www to the domainname just sends me to the IP address and shows doc root.
>
> should I have to add entries to Listen and BindAddress etc or just the
> Virtual hosts directives?
>
> I do have control over the Nameservers. Are these the authoritative servers?
> If I were to set up DNS or Bind on my server is this an option, or is this a
> huge task!

What you fail to grasp is that you are using a redirection or forwarding
service, so they determine what shows in the first part of the URL bar.
Nothing you do in apache is going to change that until you do away with
the redirection or forwarding altogether, and have names resolve in
"public" DNS directly to the public IP of your server (your comcast
connection?).

Until you can get host or nslookup or dig to resolve your names to the
public IP of "your" server, any attempt to reconfigure your apache to show
your domain name will be futile. For now, the names apparently resolve to
the redirection or forwarder service that is not under your control.