Hi,

I have certain blocks of Spanish text, for example

¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.

Don't know if the backwards question mark and the accented "i" came
through, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a site where I could
cut and paste the above and it would spit back the corresponding html
codes (e.g. {) for the appropriate Spanisn symbols.

Thanks for any advice, - Dave

..oO(laredotornado)

>I have certain blocks of Spanish text, for example
>
>¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
>personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.
>
>Don't know if the backwards question mark and the accented "i" came
>through, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a site where I could
>cut and paste the above and it would spit back the corresponding html
>codes (e.g. {) for the appropriate Spanisn symbols.

With UTF-8 you could write all those chars literarily without any
character references.

Micha

In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html message <a2cb0dce-8809-4123-bfd6-
4345d2a7a950@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:16:05,
laredotornado <laredotornado@zipmail.com> posted:

>I have certain blocks of Spanish text, for example
>
>¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
>personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.
>
>Don't know if the backwards question mark and the accented "i" came
>through, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a site where I could
>cut and paste the above and it would spit back the corresponding html
>codes (e.g. {) for the appropriate Spanisn symbols.

I see the inverted question mark, but no accents.

One could easily be written, e.g. by yourself. A TEXTAREA for input, a
BUTTON, a TEXTAREA for output, and a series of RegExps, acting on the
content of the first area and writing to the second.

DEMO : ake a copy of my <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-
quick.htm>; put ¿Que? in F.X0, F.X1.value = F.X0.value.replace(/¿/g,
"{") in the textarea, press Eval, and read F.X1. Then copy F.X1
to the textarea, press HTML, and observe that it's not { that you
need (it's ¿).

It's a good idea to read the newsgroup c.l.j and its FAQ. See below.

--
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Scripsit Michael Fesser:

> .oO(laredotornado)
>
>> I have certain blocks of Spanish text, for example
>>
>> ¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
>> personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.
>>
>> Don't know if the backwards question mark and the accented "i" came
>> through, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a site where I could
>> cut and paste the above and it would spit back the corresponding html
>> codes (e.g. {) for the appropriate Spanisn symbols.
>
> With UTF-8 you could write all those chars literarily without any
> character references.

And with iso-8859-1, the common default (more or less), if you don't
mind having to do something special with curly quotation marks.

And you can load a Spanish keyboard setting, or the US International
keyboard setting, or (best of all) the Finnish multinational keyboard
setting, in order to be able to type the characters conveniently (e.g.,
using the AltGr key).

Of course, many of the common resources for iso-8859-1 contains the
references you can use, if that's really what you want. Even the HTML
specifications have them.

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

laredotornado wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have certain blocks of Spanish text, for example
>
> ¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
> personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.
>
> Don't know if the backwards question mark and the accented "i" came
> through, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a site where I could
> cut and paste the above and it would spit back the corresponding html
> codes (e.g. {) for the appropriate Spanisn symbols.
>
> Thanks for any advice, - Dave

Few years ago I wrote TEDU (freeware). Try it.
http://www.practisoft.cz/?download+en

--
Petr Vileta, Czech republic
(My server rejects all messages from Yahoo and Hotmail. Send me your
mail from another non-spammer site please.)

Please reply to <petr AT practisoft DOT cz>

Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> One could easily be written, e.g. by yourself. A TEXTAREA for input,
> a BUTTON, a TEXTAREA for output, and a series of RegExps, acting on
> the content of the first area and writing to the second.

If you are going to go that route, write it in Perl and take advantage
of the HTML::Entities module. No need to write all those regexen.

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

>> Presione aquí.
>
> I see the inverted question mark, but no accents.

El acento está aquí.
^

--
http://niwo.mnsys.org/saved/~flavell/charset/

On Apr 16, 3:03am, Scott Bryce <sbr...@scottbryce.com> wrote:
> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>
> > One could easily be written, e.g. by yourself. A TEXTAREA for input,
> > a BUTTON, a TEXTAREA for output, and a series of RegExps, acting on
> > the content of the first area and writing to the second.
>
> If you are going to go that route, write it in Perl and take advantage
> of the HTML::Entities module. No need to write all those regexen.

Then do it yourself <g> .

IMHO, it's much easier to do it in JavaScript, the natural language
for the OP's request of a "site", than it would be to learn Perl. And
it turns out that there's no need to write RegExps as such, if one
provides an input area for the user to define the conversions.

The following includes self-test :

<form class=TRY action="#">
<textarea name=T0 cols=69 rows=4>
Replace first field by second field
¿ &amp;#191; Comment follows second TAB
q Q Paste new content into this box
</textarea>
<textarea name=T1 cols=69 rows=4>
Text input
¿que?</textarea>
<br><input type=button value="->" onClick="TextConv(this.form)"><br>
<textarea name=T2 cols=69 rows=4></textarea>
</form>


function TextConv(F) { var St, XX, J
XX = F.T0.value.split(/[\r\n]+/)
St = F.T1.value
for (J=0 ; J<XX.length ; J++) {
XX[J] = XX[J].split("\t")
if (XX[J].length==1) XX[J][1] = ""
XX[J][0] = new RegExp(XX[J][0], "g") }
for (J=0 ; J<XX.length ; J++) St = St.replace(XX[J][0], XX[J][1])
F.T2.value = St }


I did it in my js-misc1.htm#TS; but I'll not be leaving it there if
signs of excessive use appear - take a COPY. RSVP if bugs are found;
tested in IE7 FF2 Op9 Sf3. FF2 has a mini-bug : the testareas appear
to be 5 rows.


BTW, my newsreader did in fact show the accented í, about one pixel
different from a normal one at normal size, but good at 20 pt.

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Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> IMHO, it's much easier to do it in JavaScript, the natural language
> for the OP's request of a "site", than it would be to learn Perl.

That depends on whether the OP knows JavaScript better than Perl. I know
Perl better than JavaScript.

> And it turns out that there's no need to write RegExps as such, if
> one provides an input area for the user to define the conversions.

Yuck!

So in your solution, the user has to look up the entities himself, and
enter them into a text area, and hope he doesn't make any mistakes.

-------

use strict;
use warnings;
use HTML::Entities;

while(<DATA>)
{
print encode_entities($_);
}

__DATA__
¿Necesita agregar una impresora o copiadora adicional a su forma
personalizada de orden? Presione aquí.
vis-à-vis Beyoncé's naïve papier-mâché résumé

In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html message <Zq-dncQBL_P-RZvVnZ2dnUVZ
_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:56:01, Scott Bryce
<sbryce@scottbryce.com> posted:
>Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>> IMHO, it's much easier to do it in JavaScript, the natural language
>>for the OP's request of a "site", than it would be to learn Perl.
>
>That depends on whether the OP knows JavaScript better than Perl. I know
>Perl better than JavaScript.

Therefore we have different limitations, but they are, as far as has
been written here, equal in number.

>> And it turns out that there's no need to write RegExps as such, if
>> one provides an input area for the user to define the conversions.
>
>Yuck!
>
>So in your solution, the user has to look up the entities himself, and
>enter them into a text area, and hope he doesn't make any mistakes.

That is true. But he can use the solution as is, without seeking Perl;
and the content of the area can be copied and pasted for re-use. I've
added a simple test which will verify the entities. Additionally, your
solution does only what was asked for, whereas mine allows more general
substitutions, for which Perl would need more code.

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Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> That is true. But he can use the solution as is, without seeking
> Perl;

So build the Perl solution into a cgi application. Then only the server
needs Perl. I kept the code simple to demonstrate how simple it is to
encode enities in Perl.

> and the content of the area can be copied and pasted for re-use.

So can any output from a Perl script.

> I've added a simple test which will verify the entities.

Not necessary with the Perl solution.

> Additionally, your solution does only what was asked for,

But it does do what was asked for. Isn't that what it is supposed to do?
Yours only does what was asked for if the user manages to do most of the
work himself by hand.

> whereas mine allows more general substitutions, for which Perl would
> need more code.

Well, yes, but that isn't what the spec called for.

In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html message <Lu2dnXOW-9ocPpXVnZ2dnUVZ
_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:34:53, Scott Bryce
<sbryce@scottbryce.com> posted:
>Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>> That is true. But he can use the solution as is, without seeking
>> Perl;
>
>So build the Perl solution into a cgi application. Then only the server
>needs Perl. I kept the code simple to demonstrate how simple it is to
>encode enities in Perl.

You can do that, presumably; my account does not permit it. I have no
need for it myself; I'd use MiniTrue.


>> whereas mine allows more general substitutions, for which Perl would
>> need more code.
>
>Well, yes, but that isn't what the spec called for.

It did not require a lack of other capability, though. I've provided
something that *can* be used, now; you have but written of another
approach.

--
(c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 IE 7.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
I find MiniTrue useful for viewing/searching/altering files, at a DOS prompt;
free, DOS/Win/UNIX, <URL:http://www.idiotsdelight.net/minitrue/> unsupported.