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Vieux 03/04/2008, 17h05   #9
Jukka K. Korpela
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> I do not expect it to fit on a 400 to 500 pixels wide window.


Or in any reasonable width, for that matter.

> http://users.rcn.com/ilya187/TimeGraph.html


It barely fits in my browser in fullscreen mode, which I use rarely, and
it is not even barely legible (and I just got new eyeglasses). If you
stop making the text illegibly small, it becomes evident that the
approach simply won't work on the WWW (and hardly elsewhere too - it's
simply too large a table to be useful).

I have no idea of what the table is supposed to tell. If you just want
to tell "how the flotilla of Earth's emissaries throughout the solar
system has grown and shrunk with time - but mostly grown", then a
_simple_ diagram, a quantitative histogram, would do. You could make the
histogram an image or spend some time in finding a way to do it in HTML
and CSS. (Hint: you could use floated boxes or positioned boxes.)

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Vieux 03/04/2008, 18h48   #10
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> I have no idea of what the table is supposed to tell. If you just want
> to tell "how the flotilla of Earth's emissaries throughout the solar
> system has grown and shrunk with time - but mostly grown", then a
> _simple_ diagram, a quantitative histogram, would do.


Yes, just that -- with hyperlinks to each individual space probe.

> You could make the
> histogram an image or spend some time in finding a way to do it in HTML
> and CSS. (Hint: you could use floated boxes or positioned boxes.)


I will consider it, but you are the first person who claims it is
unreadably small. All other responses I got so far were positive.
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Vieux 03/04/2008, 20h39   #11
Darin McGrew
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Re: http://users.rcn.com/ilya187/TimeGraph.html
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
>> You could make the
>> histogram an image or spend some time in finding a way to do it in HTML
>> and CSS. (Hint: you could use floated boxes or positioned boxes.)


<ilya2@rcn.com> wrote:
> I will consider it, but you are the first person who claims it is
> unreadably small. All other responses I got so far were positive.


Did you expect <font size=1> to be easy to read? And the names must be
read, because a given name appears in different columns in different rows.

With my minimum font size enabled, it isn't bad. But the table forces
horizontal scrolling in my default browser window, and leaves lots of blank
space in my maximized browser window. And still, I end up seeing

Venera
5
Mariner
6

rather than

Venera 5
Mariner 6

This seems like a good place to use a non-breaking space.

But the information still wouldn't be easy to follow in this format.
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Vieux 03/04/2008, 21h17   #12
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> I found that, even with my browser window maximised, if the text
> was large enough to read comfortably, I had to keep scrolling
> from side-to-side to see what was happening towards the more
> recent (i.e. bottom) part of the table.


That's pretty much a given.

> I single graphic image - possibly as an image map - which would
> fit within a reasonable size window would be better to convey the
> overall growth in missions. Then find another way to present
> individual details to anyone who is interested (e.g. via image map
> links).


I will try to come up with something like that.
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