Hi
Using Photoshop 7
I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
They are casting a shadow on the wall
How would I go about removing the shadow?
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Martin
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On Aug 26, 1:37 pm, Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
> Hi
> Using Photoshop 7
> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
> They are casting a shadow on the wall
> How would I go about removing the shadow?
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> Martin
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Hi Martin,
Sometimes it is possible. I have done it and made it look good but it
took some time and I got lucky with the information surrounding the
relfections. If you post a link to an image you will get a more
informed opinion - same goes for the shadow question.

Good luck,
Ron

<Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net> wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Using Photoshop 7
> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
> They are casting a shadow on the wall
> How would I go about removing the shadow?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Using Photoshop Elements, I select along any critical edges, and then clone
in samples from other parts of the wall. If it's a plain wall, it's easy.
Be careful to choose from a part of the wall that has the same lighting. If
it's a brick wall, or wallpaper, you also have to line up the pattern.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:29:01 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"
<l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>
><Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net> wrote:
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Using Photoshop 7
>> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
>> They are casting a shadow on the wall
>> How would I go about removing the shadow?
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Using Photoshop Elements, I select along any critical edges, and then clone
>in samples from other parts of the wall. If it's a plain wall, it's easy.
>Be careful to choose from a part of the wall that has the same lighting. If
>it's a brick wall, or wallpaper, you also have to line up the pattern.

Thank you Leo for both your replies
As the photo is for a disabled parking Orange badge, I think it will
be easier to take the photo again paying particular attention to the
possible problems
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Regards
Martin
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Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
>> Using Photoshop 7
>>> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
>>> They are casting a shadow on the wall
>>> How would I go about removing the shadow?

> As the photo is for a disabled parking Orange badge, I think it will
> be easier to take the photo again paying particular attention to the
> possible problems

If you take the photo with and without the person there, you can combine the
images to eliminate the shadow.

Andrew

"Andrew Morton" <akm@in-press.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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> Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
>>> Using Photoshop 7
>>>> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
>>>> They are casting a shadow on the wall
>>>> How would I go about removing the shadow?
>
>> As the photo is for a disabled parking Orange badge, I think it will
>> be easier to take the photo again paying particular attention to the
>> possible problems
>
> If you take the photo with and without the person there, you can combine
> the images to eliminate the shadow.
>
> Andrew
make the person stand away from the wall
make sure the light above them not direct at them

if you have no strobe or umbrella or scrim>>>

point flash up ward at ceiling and bounce it, also make a diffuser by a
piece of white cloth rubber band around the flash

or shoot through a white sheet or shower curtain with an off-camera flash

or have subject sit in shade but with DAY light from behind your back on
them- this is soft even flat light

it is always easier to make a photo as good as possible and avoid PS
excessive corrections
poor photos can be improved with PS but will not look as well as a shot
taken correctly in camera

"KatWoman" wrote: (clip) it is always easier to make a photo as good as
possible and avoid PS
> excessive corrections
> poor photos can be improved with PS but will not look as well as a shot
> taken correctly in camera
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A camera is a "machine," with physical and optical limitations. I almost
always do some digital work on my images to accomplish results that were not
fully realized in the original image. I think your statement goes way too
far. Some failures in the original exposure are very difficult (virtually
impossible) to Photoshop away--for example, severe underexposure, camera
movement, poor focus, poorly chosen angle of view, inappropriate focal
length. OTOH, things like contrast, brightness, background blur are easily
manipulated. Even facial expression can often be improved. The more you
work on pictures, the easier it becomes to recognize small ways to make
worthwhile changes, I LOVE to play with local contrast in order to the
viewer see what I want him/her to see. I sometimes move objects in a
picture to improve composition.

One of my best examples was a picture made by combining parts from several
exposures of dancers, taken in a crowded room, where the ideal photograph
would have simply been impossible. The result was a picture that
represented the "reality" I had in my mind's eye. I think this is a valid
use of Photoshop. I frequently also like to go through a photo made with
flash, and remove the harsh shadows cast by the single light source.

You may be right, that an umbrella, or a shower curtain, or a diffuse
reflector would have produced better lighting, but those dancers won't stand
still for that.

Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:

> Hi
> Using Photoshop 7
> I have a photo of a person sitting near a wall
> They are casting a shadow on the wall
> How would I go about removing the shadow?

Same thing, this is pretty basic and I will give you the advanced
technique. Also, I don't remember Photoshop 7 has Masking option or not (I
think it does but I don't have good memory).

1. Make a duplicate of the original

2. Using Level to adjust the SHADOW layer to match the normal layer. DO NOT
worry about the bright part cuz you only need to take care of the shadowed
part

3. Click on the [o] (Quick Mask) then using BRUSH Tool to bring up the
repaired area and you have it.

If you don't know how to use Mask Tool (not creating Mask Image) then you
may need to Google for some vidio tutorial.

"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "KatWoman" wrote: (clip) it is always easier to make a photo as good as
> possible and avoid PS
>> excessive corrections
>> poor photos can be improved with PS but will not look as well as a shot
>> taken correctly in camera
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> A camera is a "machine," with physical and optical limitations. I almost
> always do some digital work on my images to accomplish results that were
> not fully realized in the original image. I think your statement goes way
> too far. Some failures in the original exposure are very difficult
> (virtually impossible) to Photoshop away--for example, severe
> underexposure, camera movement, poor focus, poorly chosen angle of view,
> inappropriate focal length. OTOH, things like contrast, brightness,
> background blur are easily manipulated. Even facial expression can often
> be improved. The more you work on pictures, the easier it becomes to
> recognize small ways to make worthwhile changes, I LOVE to play with
> local contrast in order to the viewer see what I want him/her to see.
> I sometimes move objects in a picture to improve composition.
>
> One of my best examples was a picture made by combining parts from several
> exposures of dancers, taken in a crowded room, where the ideal photograph
> would have simply been impossible. The result was a picture that
> represented the "reality" I had in my mind's eye. I think this is a valid
> use of Photoshop. I frequently also like to go through a photo made with
> flash, and remove the harsh shadows cast by the single light source.
>
> You may be right, that an umbrella, or a shower curtain, or a diffuse



I did not say avoid PS entirely '
read what I typed avoid EXCESSIVE PS to correct what should be in the
original IE good lighting
of course I use PS to tweak most images from good to fantastic
that is my job

crap to fantastic is harder

this man is asking how to fix POORLY LIT PHOTOS
I advise him to reshoot over fixing crap

I may be right??
I am right

"KatWoman" (clip) this man is asking how to fix POORLY LIT PHOTOS
> I advise him to reshoot over fixing crap (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The man asked how to remove an unwanted shadow from a wall. It is a stretch
to conclude from that that it is a poorly lit photo. It is a HUGE stretch
to call it crap. It's for an ID badge. Why not just answer the OP's
question?

"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "KatWoman" (clip) this man is asking how to fix POORLY LIT PHOTOS
>> I advise him to reshoot over fixing crap (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The man asked how to remove an unwanted shadow from a wall. It is a
> stretch to conclude from that that it is a poorly lit photo. It is a HUGE
> stretch to call it crap. It's for an ID badge.

Why not just answer the OP's
> question?

1. the first poster already told him how
2. that is too beginner for me to tell how to use the clone tool

if a person does not know how to do that he willhave a poor result and it is
easier and he said for himself it was easier to re-shoot it

read the thread
all of it

<Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net> wrote: As the photo is for a disabled parking
Orange badge, I think it will
> be easier to take the photo again paying particular attention to the
> possible problems
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I realise that, by now, you have probably taken care of this, but another
very simple solution occurs to me. Select around the person's head. Invert
selection. Do an average blur of the background. This should be perfect
for an ID badge. The only problem could come from trying to select the
person's hair, if it is ragged, or fluffy and semi-transparent.

Thank you all very much for your and support
I got a friend who knows more about Photoshop than I do to follow your
guidelines and correct the pic for me.
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Martin
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"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> <Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net> wrote: As the photo is for a disabled parking
> Orange badge, I think it will
> > be easier to take the photo again paying particular attention to the
> > possible problems
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I realise that, by now, you have probably taken care of this, but another
> very simple solution occurs to me. Select around the person's head. Invert
> selection. Do an average blur of the background. This should be perfect
> for an ID badge. The only problem could come from trying to select the
> person's hair, if it is ragged, or fluffy and semi-transparent.

Not a good choice for professional use, but if you don't wanna listen then
I guess it's your problem, not?

Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:

> Thank you all very much for your and support
> I got a friend who knows more about Photoshop than I do to follow your
> guidelines and correct the pic for me.

You use them all or just one or few, and which one? IOW, people spend lot
of hours monitoring the newsgroup to learn, and since you got your then
you should return the favor by telling other which one solved your problem.

"Joe" wrote: Not a good choice for professional use, but if you don't
wanna listen then
> I guess it's your problem, not?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Joe, I wasn't suggesting it for professionalk use. The OP is someone with
limited Photoshop skills, trying to put a head shot on an ID badge. I DO
wanna listen. I read every response, and I made this response considering
Martin's need and skill level. Why don't YOU listen?

"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> "Joe" wrote: Not a good choice for professional use, but if you don't
> wanna listen then
> > I guess it's your problem, not?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Joe, I wasn't suggesting it for professionalk use. The OP is someone with
> limited Photoshop skills, trying to put a head shot on an ID badge. I DO
> wanna listen. I read every response, and I made this response considering
> Martin's need and skill level. Why don't YOU listen?

I don't think that's the right answer, because you should use the
professional technique all the time for very simple reasons

1. When you have mastered the technique then there won't be any easier way.

2. If you haven't mastered then keep on practicing.

And to your last question. I am LISTENING that's why I know it ain't
right.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:50:42 -0500, Joe <joe@dontspam.com> wrote:

>Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
>
>> Thank you all very much for your and support
>> I got a friend who knows more about Photoshop than I do to follow your
>> guidelines and correct the pic for me.
>
> You use them all or just one or few, and which one? IOW, people spend lot
>of hours monitoring the newsgroup to learn, and since you got your then
>you should return the favor by telling other which one solved your problem.

I can't say for now sorry, my friend is away abroad on business
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Martin
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