I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?

Thanks,

Peter

On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter

Are you shooting raw?

On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Peter
>
> Are you shooting raw?

No, but I wonder if I should have?

Peter

On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Peter
>
> > Are you shooting raw?
>
> No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> Peter

You gotta keep the negatives.

On Apr 5, 9:12 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Peter
>
> > > Are you shooting raw?
>
> > No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> > Peter
>
> You gotta keep the negatives.

On Apr 5, 9:12 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Peter
>
> > > Are you shooting raw?
>
> > No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> > Peter
>
> You gotta keep the negatives.

Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
is over an hour away.

Thanks,

Peter

On Apr 5, 8:41 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:12 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > Peter
>
> > > > Are you shooting raw?
>
> > > No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> > > Peter
>
> > You gotta keep the negatives.
>
> Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
> is over an hour away.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter

Exposure blending is the only trick up my sleeve. Hopefully an expert
will weigh in with some advice.

Good luck

In article
<780dfbcf-cc43-4c7e-9e1e-e9c213138e24@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
peter <plaz987@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter

If you're a NAPP member, check out Dave Cross's video tutorial at
http://www.photoshopuser.com/members...tips&video=244

If you're not a member and don't want to join (but why WOULDN'T
you???)... he's using the Lighten feature of Hue/Saturation and adding
saturation as well since lightening desaturates.

Tom Nelson
Tom Nelson Photography

>I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
>dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
>the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
>it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
>want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
>the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
>look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
>anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?

>Thanks,

>Peter


Please allow me to add to this thread, the following question:
(can make it another thread, but why? Topic still the same)
I took a photo of greenness (plants in the foreground) and the sea,
but there was (a building's) shadow on the greenness. I shot this
photo at ISO 80 which made it a very clear photo, but the shadow is
DARK!)

The next day, I took the photo in the morning hours with no shadow on
the greenness, but the former day's photo have a passenger liner
leaving the port, and I want it on the photo.

I could of course asked the ship's captain to leave a few hours
earlier, but decided to go the easier way which meant cutting
out the foreground of the earlier photo, and stick the 2'nd day's
photo's foreground to it.

The clone tool makes it easy to hide the stitch line, but here is a
difference in color, and I tried a few different experiments in
balancing the color, but no go. 'Equalize' made the difference less
obvious, but there is still a very noticeable difference.

CS3 and the photos are 9 MP RAW.

Dave

PS
Thanks for your hint on Hue/Saturation with added saturation,
Tom Nelson. This was part of yesterdays tries, but it did not work.
Maybe I should spend more time there.



>
>If you're a NAPP member, check out Dave Cross's video tutorial at
>http://www.photoshopuser.com/members...tips&video=244
>
>If you're not a member and don't want to join (but why WOULDN'T
>you???)... he's using the Lighten feature of Hue/Saturation and adding
>saturation as well since lightening desaturates.
>
>Tom Nelson
>Tom Nelson Photography

peter <plaz987@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > Peter
> >
> > Are you shooting raw?
>
> No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> Peter

I can tell you that RAW won't you with the hi-lite/shadow issue (we
have too many RAW dreamers these days). And back to the very BASIC of
Photoshop some other members and I have posted several times in the past few
months, but you forgot to read.

The process is very simple, and you should have no problem to correct the
Shadow/Hi-lite, and I hope you may learn to adapt the same process to
others.

1. Making a dupe of the original. Now you have 2 layers.

2. Adjusting 1 layer to correct the Hi-lite, and other to correct the
Shadow.

Now you have 1 layer with overexposed but the shadow is now corrected, and
one with underexposed with the hi-lite is now corrected.

3. Then using MASK command (the [o] button) to BLEND 2 messed up layers into
single perfect photo.

That's it! this is beyond RAW and it's very basic for average Photoshop
user.

peter <plaz987@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>
> > > > > Peter
> >
> > > > Are you shooting raw?
> >
> > > No, but I wonder if I should have?
> >
> > > Peter
> >
> > You gotta keep the negatives.
>
> Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
> is over an hour away.
>
> Thanks,

1. Forget the RAW stuff

2. Read my response and learn to take advantage of the MASK tool

And it shoudn't take more than few seconds.

On Apr 6, 12:06 pm, Joe <j...@dontspam.com> wrote:
> peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > > > > Peter
>
> > > > > Are you shooting raw?
>
> > > > No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> > > > Peter
>
> > > You gotta keep the negatives.
>
> > Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
> > is over an hour away.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> 1. Forget the RAW stuff
>
> 2. Read my response and learn to take advantage of the MASK tool
>
> And it shoudn't take more than few seconds.

Thanks, Joe. I did steps 1 and 2 successfully, then applied a mask to
the top layer. But how do I blend the layers? The layers palette just
show the 2 layers, one with a layer mask on it? Is it an opacity
setting or blend mode I should change?

Thanks,

Peter

"Dave" <d@d.durbs> wrote in message
news:9vghv3dm5tlthasmkei5n0qbcre2o8tmem@4ax.com...
> >I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
>>dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
>>the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
>>it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
>>want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
>>the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
>>look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
>>anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
>>Thanks,
>
>>Peter
>
>
> Please allow me to add to this thread, the following question:
> (can make it another thread, but why? Topic still the same)
> I took a photo of greenness (plants in the foreground) and the sea,
> but there was (a building's) shadow on the greenness. I shot this
> photo at ISO 80 which made it a very clear photo, but the shadow is
> DARK!)
>
> The next day, I took the photo in the morning hours with no shadow on
> the greenness, but the former day's photo have a passenger liner
> leaving the port, and I want it on the photo.
>
> I could of course asked the ship's captain to leave a few hours
> earlier, but decided to go the easier way which meant cutting
> out the foreground of the earlier photo, and stick the 2'nd day's
> photo's foreground to it.
>
> The clone tool makes it easy to hide the stitch line, but here is a
> difference in color, and I tried a few different experiments in
> balancing the color, but no go. 'Equalize' made the difference less
> obvious, but there is still a very noticeable difference.
>
> CS3 and the photos are 9 MP RAW.
>
> Dave
>
> PS
> Thanks for your hint on Hue/Saturation with added saturation,
> Tom Nelson. This was part of yesterdays tries, but it did not work.
> Maybe I should spend more time there.
>
>
>
>>
>>If you're a NAPP member, check out Dave Cross's video tutorial at
>>http://www.photoshopuser.com/members...tips&video=244
>>
>>If you're not a member and don't want to join (but why WOULDN'T
>>you???)... he's using the Lighten feature of Hue/Saturation and adding
>>saturation as well since lightening desaturates.
>>
>>Tom Nelson
>>Tom Nelson Photography

but there is a noticeable line where I selected::::
when you made the selection did you use feather to achieve a softer blend??
should not be a hard line

after you make the selection use the mask button on bottom of layer palette
(you may need Select>INVERSE)
that lets all the black area show through to the layer below
that way if you have to move it or make it softer you can go back
you can also go back to a selection from a layer mask by control click the
thumbnail

to paint or adjust ONLY the mask click it's thumbnail
you can paint on the mask with the brush set to black and white (a soft
brush on 50% will make a softer edge)
and you can use blur to make the edges of the mask softer

about the Hue/sat method mentioned:
if you change to lab mode you can adjust just the light dark (a, b channels)
in CURVES without losing saturation or colors getting ruined
I would not recommend Hue Sat for what you are trying to do

On Apr 6, 11:05 am, Joe <j...@dontspam.com> wrote:
> peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> > > > dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> > > > the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> > > > it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> > > > want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> > > > the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> > > > look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> > > > anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Peter
>
> > > Are you shooting raw?
>
> > No, but I wonder if I should have?
>
> > Peter
>
> I can tell you that RAW won't you with the hi-lite/shadow issue (we
> have too many RAW dreamers these days). And back to the very BASIC of
> Photoshop some other members and I have posted several times in the past few
> months, but you forgot to read.
>
> The process is very simple, and you should have no problem to correct the
> Shadow/Hi-lite, and I hope you may learn to adapt the same process to
> others.
>
> 1. Making a dupe of the original. Now you have 2 layers.
>
> 2. Adjusting 1 layer to correct the Hi-lite, and other to correct the
> Shadow.
>
> Now you have 1 layer with overexposed but the shadow is now corrected, and
> one with underexposed with the hi-lite is now corrected.
>
> 3. Then using MASK command (the [o] button) to BLEND 2 messed up layers into
> single perfect photo.
>
> That's it! this is beyond RAW and it's very basic for average Photoshop
> user.

Some photos are worth spending a little more time on. The average user
does not need to remain average.

http://ronbigelow.com/articles/fine-...art-pond-1.htm

peter <plaz987@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 6, 12:06 pm, Joe <j...@dontspam.com> wrote:
> > peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > > > > Peter
> >
> > > > > > Are you shooting raw?
> >
> > > > > No, but I wonder if I should have?
> >
> > > > > Peter
> >
> > > > You gotta keep the negatives.
> >
> > > Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
> > > is over an hour away.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > 1. Forget the RAW stuff
> >
> > 2. Read my response and learn to take advantage of the MASK tool
> >
> > And it shoudn't take more than few seconds.
>
> Thanks, Joe. I did steps 1 and 2 successfully, then applied a mask to
> the top layer. But how do I blend the layers? The layers palette just
> show the 2 layers, one with a layer mask on it? Is it an opacity
> setting or blend mode I should change?

Blending is no more special than combining two or more layer together to
single layer.

1. After turn the top layer into MASK mode

2. Using Opacity & Brush Size etc.. to control the brush

3. When you happy with the result then you MERGE the layers together and you
have it.

> Thanks,
>
> Peter

ronviers@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 5, 8:41 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 5, 9:12 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
>>>>>>dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
>>>>>>the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
>>>>>>it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
>>>>>>want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
>>>>>>the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
>>>>>>look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
>>>>>>anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you shooting raw?
>>>>
>>>>No, but I wonder if I should have?
>>>
>>>>Peter
>>>
>>>You gotta keep the negatives.
>>
>>Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
>>is over an hour away.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Peter
>
>
> Exposure blending is the only trick up my sleeve. Hopefully an expert
> will weigh in with some advice.
>
> Good luck

I would select the shadow but play around with feathering of the
selection. You might try feathering 15-20 pixels to make more of a
blend, then try shadow/highlight or the exposure adjustment.

If all else fails, try duplicating the bottom half of the door on a new
layer and flipping it upside down over the shadow.

Good luck,

Rhonda

Rhonda <san-toki_remove@this.att.net> wrote:

> ronviers@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 8:41 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Apr 5, 9:12 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Apr 5, 6:57 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>On Apr 5, 6:49 pm, "ronvi...@gmail.com" <ronvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>On Apr 5, 4:16 pm, peter <plaz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I took some pictures today of a door. The top 20% of the door has a
> >>>>>>dark shadow over it. How can I make this area look like the rest of
> >>>>>>the door? I have CS3 and I tried the shadow/highlight adjustment, but
> >>>>>>it lightens the entire door, although more so in the shadowed area. I
> >>>>>>want to keep the rest of the door the just the way it is. I selected
> >>>>>>the shadowed area, and lightened using shadow/highlight, and it didn't
> >>>>>>look too bad, but there is a noticeable line where I selected. Does
> >>>>>>anyone have any suggestions for other things I can try?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Are you shooting raw?
> >>>>
> >>>>No, but I wonder if I should have?
> >>>
> >>>>Peter
> >>>
> >>>You gotta keep the negatives.
> >>
> >>Yeah, I hear you. Do I have any other options besides reshooting? It
> >>is over an hour away.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Peter
> >
> >
> > Exposure blending is the only trick up my sleeve. Hopefully an expert
> > will weigh in with some advice.
> >
> > Good luck
>
> I would select the shadow but play around with feathering of the
> selection. You might try feathering 15-20 pixels to make more of a
> blend, then try shadow/highlight or the exposure adjustment.
>
> If all else fails, try duplicating the bottom half of the door on a new
> layer and flipping it upside down over the shadow.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rhonda

Because we have had so many spams from @gmail so I have my reader setup to
kill-file @gmail and few other web groups, so I don't see the original 9this
is the only one I have in the whole thread). And if you won't mind me using
your message as a bridge to shoot the message to @gmail user.

- Forget the RAW which won't do much good, or too much credit for thing RAW
can't do. No need for feathering either especially with almost all
commands.

- But just use one of the very simple tricks which I posted few times in the
past

1. Make a dupe of the original

2. On one layer you adjust the DARKER part to whatever you like

3. On one layer you adjust the BRIGHTER part to whatever you like

4. On the top layer, click on the Quick Mask button then start to unveal the
bottom layer.

That's it! just use soft brush with small opacity then it should leave no
mark and you should have a perfect lighting.

*If* 2 layers isn't enough to cover all shadows then 3 layers or even 4
layers (I think 3 is about all you need). And it shouldn't take no more
than some seconds to less than 1-2 minutes for first time user.