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Vieux 20/04/2008, 07h42   #1 (permalink)
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Is it possible to create a network recycle bin on a Windows 2003 server,
either natively or with third party software?

I have 1.5TB of data on a RAID5 array. If I delete a file on the server from
one of my workstations I would like to be able to recover it the same way I
could recover a file deleted locally.

I don't need the ability to track file changes/versions.

I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes of files.


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 08h22   #2 (permalink)
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"Calab" <myspam@csd.ca> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to create a network recycle bin on a Windows 2003 server,
> either natively or with third party software?
>
> I have 1.5TB of data on a RAID5 array. If I delete a file on the server
> from
> one of my workstations I would like to be able to recover it the same way
> I
> could recover a file deleted locally.
>
> I don't need the ability to track file changes/versions.
>
> I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes of files.
>


You write "I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes
of files." With this philosophy you violate the first principle of safe
data storage: Important files must be stored on at least two independent
media. Havin a network recycle bin protects you only against one
contingency (human error) but totally ignores the rest: Theft, fire,
power surge, file system corruption, disk failure etc. etc.


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 08h46   #3 (permalink)
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"Calab" <myspam@csd.ca> wrote in message
news:ORs8VHroIHA.804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is it possible to create a network recycle bin on a Windows 2003 server,
> either natively or with third party software?
>
> I have 1.5TB of data on a RAID5 array. If I delete a file on the server
> from
> one of my workstations I would like to be able to recover it the same way
> I
> could recover a file deleted locally.
>
> I don't need the ability to track file changes/versions.
>
> I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes of files.
>


As an afterthought: If you installed a RAID5 array then you
must be concerned about disk failures. Why then aren't you
concerned about file system corruption? A RAID array won't
protect you against that - only a proper backup system will.


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 11h30   #4 (permalink)
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Check out the "Volume Shadow Copy" service which provides exactly what you
need. You can configure how many copies of documents are retained and for how
long.

Alternatively, get your users to store documents on Windows SharePoint
Services - Version 3 includes a recyle bin - again configurable as you desire.

All of this is included free with Windows Server 2003

Regards
Graham

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "Calab" <myspam@csd.ca> wrote in message
> news:ORs8VHroIHA.804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Is it possible to create a network recycle bin on a Windows 2003 server,
> > either natively or with third party software?
> >
> > I have 1.5TB of data on a RAID5 array. If I delete a file on the server
> > from
> > one of my workstations I would like to be able to recover it the same way
> > I
> > could recover a file deleted locally.
> >
> > I don't need the ability to track file changes/versions.
> >
> > I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes of files.
> >

>
> As an afterthought: If you installed a RAID5 array then you
> must be concerned about disk failures. Why then aren't you
> concerned about file system corruption? A RAID array won't
> protect you against that - only a proper backup system will.
>
>
>

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Vieux 20/04/2008, 18h56   #5 (permalink)
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"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
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|
| "Calab" <myspam@csd.ca> wrote in message
| news:ORs8VHroIHA.804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > Is it possible to create a network recycle bin on a Windows 2003 server,
| > either natively or with third party software?
| >
| > I have 1.5TB of data on a RAID5 array. If I delete a file on the server
| > from
| > one of my workstations I would like to be able to recover it the same
way
| > I
| > could recover a file deleted locally.
| >
| > I don't need the ability to track file changes/versions.
| >
| > I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes of files.
| >
|
| You write "I don't want to waste drive space by backing up tonnes
| of files." With this philosophy you violate the first principle of safe
| data storage: Important files must be stored on at least two independent
| media. Havin a network recycle bin protects you only against one
| contingency (human error) but totally ignores the rest: Theft, fire,
| power surge, file system corruption, disk failure etc. etc.

I should clarify... I already have a backup system for data that is
important.

A recycle bin would protect against deletions that have happened before a
scheduled backup would occur.


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 18h57   #6 (permalink)
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"gocat2005" <gocat2005@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Check out the "Volume Shadow Copy" service which provides exactly what you
| need. You can configure how many copies of documents are retained and for
how
| long.

So this will only make backups of files just before they are deleted?

We already have a scheduled daily backup of important data.


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 19h27   #7 (permalink)
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In news:O9JL5$woIHA.1580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Calab <myspam@csd.ca> typed:
> "gocat2005" <gocat2005@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:67369655-EC47-4C70-BB16-38BAF0913F48@microsoft.com...
> > Check out the "Volume Shadow Copy" service which provides exactly
> > what you need. You can configure how many copies of documents are
> > retained and for

> how
> > long.

>
> So this will only make backups of files just before they are deleted?
>
> We already have a scheduled daily backup of important data.


The Volume Shadow Copy service allows users to recover their own deleted
files by them simply looking at previous versions (up to 100 previous
versions) that existed in the share where they deleted the object and have
the option to restore it, all from their machine without administrative
involvement.

How Volume Shadow Copy Service Works - Updated: March 28, 2003:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true

Setting up and Using the Volume Shadow Copy Service
http://www.visualwin.com/VSS/

Shadow Copies of Shared Folders (FAQs, etc):
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...s/default.mspx


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Regards,
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.

Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations


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Vieux 20/04/2008, 19h35   #8 (permalink)
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Users can choose which previous version of the file they wish to restore
based on the settings which you determine.

See
http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true

and

http://technet2.microsoft.com/window....mspx?mfr=true

Regards
Graham


"Calab" wrote:

>
> "gocat2005" <gocat2005@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:67369655-EC47-4C70-BB16-38BAF0913F48@microsoft.com...
> | Check out the "Volume Shadow Copy" service which provides exactly what you
> | need. You can configure how many copies of documents are retained and for
> how
> | long.
>
> So this will only make backups of files just before they are deleted?
>
> We already have a scheduled daily backup of important data.
>
>
>

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