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Vieux 19/02/2008, 17h06   #1 (permalink)
wxyz321@gmail.com
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Hi. I'm taking my very first shot at site building using Photoshop
CS3, and finding it quite easy and useful in getting the exact look I
want. There's just one remaining task....getting the background layer
(just a plain solid color) to have a variable width for anyone using a
screen res wider than 1024. Currently, if I look at the page on a
larger screen, the color stops at 1024 and the space to the right is
just plain white. I want that color layer to fill the browser window,
no matter how wide.

Do I need to somehow convert that layer to "CSS" (which I know nothing
about) to get that variable width? Is CS3 capable of getting this
result? [I'm not going to buy additional software for this, since I'm
not looking for a career in web design...I'm just building 2 sites for
myself and that's the end of it.]

Many thanks!

Rudy
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Vieux 19/02/2008, 17h19   #2 (permalink)
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wxyz321@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi. I'm taking my very first shot at site building using Photoshop
> CS3, and finding it quite easy and useful in getting the exact look I
> want. There's just one remaining task....getting the background layer
> (just a plain solid color) to have a variable width for anyone using a
> screen res wider than 1024. Currently, if I look at the page on a
> larger screen, the color stops at 1024 and the space to the right is
> just plain white. I want that color layer to fill the browser window,
> no matter how wide.
>
> Do I need to somehow convert that layer to "CSS" (which I know nothing
> about) to get that variable width? Is CS3 capable of getting this
> result? [I'm not going to buy additional software for this, since I'm
> not looking for a career in web design...I'm just building 2 sites for
> myself and that's the end of it.]
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Rudy


I wouldn't use Photoshop to build a website.
It's like using your microwave to dry your washing.
Sure, it can probably do it, but that's not what it was designed for, and as
such, it will never do the job satisfactorily.
It's just not the right tool for the job.
If you must use a softwae application to build a website, Adobe have a
package called Dreamweaver in their product range. This is a dedicated
website design tool, and you'll find it gives far superior results and is
easier to use, simply because it is the right tool for the job.
If you really want the best results, you should take the time to learn HTML
and code your website manually using a text editor like Notepad.
HTML is really easy to learn. It's probably the simplest computer language
that exists, and once you get the hang of it, you'll wonder why you ever
needed a wysiwyg editor.
Do a quick google search and you should find hundreds of online HTML
tutorials to get you started.


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Vieux 19/02/2008, 20h25   #3 (permalink)
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On Feb 19, 12:19 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
<samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:

> I wouldn't use Photoshop to build a website.


Maybe you wouldn't, maybe most people wouldn't, but I am. As I stated
in my original post, I'm not about to shell out $400 for software that
I'll never need again once this project is finished. The site is 95%
done with CS3, and it looks beautiful. I just need to sort out this
last detail.


Rudy
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Vieux 19/02/2008, 20h50   #4 (permalink)
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wxyz321@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 19, 12:19 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
> <samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't use Photoshop to build a website.

>
> Maybe you wouldn't, maybe most people wouldn't, but I am. As I stated
> in my original post, I'm not about to shell out $400 for software that
> I'll never need again once this project is finished. The site is 95%
> done with CS3, and it looks beautiful. I just need to sort out this
> last detail.


Oh please don't misunderstand me Rudy.
I wasn't criticising you or your methods.
Just trying to you by suggesting there might be an easier solution.
You don't have to pay out $400 for a copy of dreamweaver. There are plenty
of free wysiwyg HTML editors out there that will still do a better job than
photoshop, which isn't primarily an HTML editing programme.


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Vieux 20/02/2008, 01h15   #5 (permalink)
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On Feb 19, 3:50 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
<samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:

> There are plenty
> of free wysiwyg HTML editors out there that will still do a better job than
> photoshop, which isn't primarily an HTML editing programme.


Thanks for the suggestion, but the site is 95% done, and I really
don't have the time nor the desire to start over with a new program.
If CS3 can't give me a variable width layer, then I'll post the site
"as is" and the people browsing above 1024 can just suffer. It will
still look good to most users.

Thanks!

Rudy
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Vieux 20/02/2008, 04h49   #6 (permalink)
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<wxyz321@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9fa700f1-bfff-46e8-9867-6c2a9588ab80@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 19, 3:50 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
> <samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> There are plenty
>> of free wysiwyg HTML editors out there that will still do a better job
>> than
>> photoshop, which isn't primarily an HTML editing programme.

>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but the site is 95% done, and I really
> don't have the time nor the desire to start over with a new program.
> If CS3 can't give me a variable width layer, then I'll post the site
> "as is" and the people browsing above 1024 can just suffer. It will
> still look good to most users.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rudy

not sure how it outputs pages
there may already be a css doc in there
or you can try >go to the index html in notepad
someplace in there should specify size of page
it needs to be 100% instead of a fixed size
I THINK
(not my area of expertise here)
and why I hate making webpages
modern designers all use php


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Vieux 20/02/2008, 08h10   #7 (permalink)
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KatWoman wrote:

> <wxyz321@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9fa700f1-bfff-46e8-9867-6c2a9588ab80@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>>On Feb 19, 3:50 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
>><samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There are plenty
>>>of free wysiwyg HTML editors out there that will still do a better job
>>>than
>>>photoshop, which isn't primarily an HTML editing programme.

>>
>>Thanks for the suggestion, but the site is 95% done, and I really
>>don't have the time nor the desire to start over with a new program.
>>If CS3 can't give me a variable width layer, then I'll post the site
>>"as is" and the people browsing above 1024 can just suffer. It will
>>still look good to most users.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Rudy

>
> not sure how it outputs pages
> there may already be a css doc in there
> or you can try >go to the index html in notepad
> someplace in there should specify size of page
> it needs to be 100% instead of a fixed size
> I THINK
> (not my area of expertise here)
> and why I hate making webpages
> modern designers all use php
>
>

using PS you can set up what you want on the page - text navigation text
etc on top of an image this is then sliced and saves as HTML (Save for web.)

Take it into a HTML editor and allocate the sliced bits etc.

The PS image will sit in the centre (has to be centred) of the page.

Then you add a background colour this in your HTML editor.

This will fill the screen what ever size.
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Vieux 20/02/2008, 10h11   #8 (permalink)
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KatWoman wrote:
> <wxyz321@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9fa700f1-bfff-46e8-9867-6c2a9588ab80@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 19, 3:50 pm, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
>> <samandja...@knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> There are plenty
>>> of free wysiwyg HTML editors out there that will still do a better
>>> job than
>>> photoshop, which isn't primarily an HTML editing programme.

>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, but the site is 95% done, and I really
>> don't have the time nor the desire to start over with a new program.
>> If CS3 can't give me a variable width layer, then I'll post the site
>> "as is" and the people browsing above 1024 can just suffer. It will
>> still look good to most users.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Rudy

> not sure how it outputs pages
> there may already be a css doc in there
> or you can try >go to the index html in notepad
> someplace in there should specify size of page
> it needs to be 100% instead of a fixed size
> I THINK
> (not my area of expertise here)
> and why I hate making webpages
> modern designers all use php


PHP, like ASP is just a scripting language which gives a dynamic element to
your webpage.
Your browser still requires a markup language (HTML) to display the elements
of the website to you, and that's exactly what PHP and ASP serves up to your
browser.
Sites are still coded with HTML nowadays, with only those elements that need
dynamic content coded in PHP or ASP.

Having said that, you're absolutely right about the page width needing to be
specified in percentages rather than pixels. That will solve Rudy's problem
for him.

Rudy, if you post the HTML code from one of your pages, I'll be able to tell
you which tag needs to be altered in order to fix the problem.


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