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Vieux 19/03/2008, 12h45   #1 (permalink)
Ulrich G. Kliegis
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Hi all,
I've been looking for a realistic crayon brush for some time now,
without success so far. If possible, it should also be pressure
sensitive (Wacom Intuos).

The closest I came to was the crayon in Artrage 2.22, but that is
useless for PS. It should reproduce the fat, waxy appearance of a
classical crayon, not as fine as most chalk tools.

Any hints?

Thanks in advance!

U.
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Vieux 19/03/2008, 13h46   #2 (permalink)
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Ulrich G. Kliegis wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've been looking for a realistic crayon brush for some time now,
> without success so far. If possible, it should also be pressure
> sensitive (Wacom Intuos).
>
> The closest I came to was the crayon in Artrage 2.22, but that is
> useless for PS. It should reproduce the fat, waxy appearance of a
> classical crayon, not as fine as most chalk tools.
>
> Any hints?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> U.


I think you perhaps should try a paint-type program rather than PS. This
would be much better at mimicking the effect of natural tools like crayon,
paintbrush etc.

One that supports graphics tablets and won't cost anything is Artweaver
http://www.artweaver.de/index.php?en_version

HTH
R.


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Vieux 19/03/2008, 20h57   #3 (permalink)
Mike Russell
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From: "Ulrich G. Kliegis" <Ulli.usenet@kliegis.de>


> Hi all,
> I've been looking for a realistic crayon brush for some time now,
> without success so far. If possible, it should also be pressure
> sensitive (Wacom Intuos).
>
> The closest I came to was the crayon in Artrage 2.22, but that is
> useless for PS. It should reproduce the fat, waxy appearance of a
> classical crayon, not as fine as most chalk tools.
>
> Any hints?


Here's a tutorial from Janee - some of the textures about 3/4 the way down
look a lot like crayon.

http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/brush7/intro/brush7.htm

Another thought would be to simulate a rougher paper by painting on a layer
with a textured layer mask.
---
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com


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Vieux 19/03/2008, 22h26   #4 (permalink)
Ulrich G. Kliegis
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:46:12 GMT, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com> wrote
in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:

>I think you perhaps should try a paint-type program rather than PS. This
>would be much better at mimicking the effect of natural tools like crayon,
>paintbrush etc.
>
>One that supports graphics tablets and won't cost anything is Artweaver
>http://www.artweaver.de/index.php?en_version


Ragnar,
thanks for this pointer. I looked at it and tried the crayon. Almost
better than the real thing, at least, this crayon does not break!

I'd still like to do it eiter integrated in the PS environment,
though, or, if available, in a drawing (corel style) environment,
where I could tweak and twitch the curves as splines. As far as I
know, though, Corel does not offer structured drawing tools (yet), or
am I a bit behind?

Thanks for your input, though, I did not know this painting program
before.

Cheers,
U.
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Vieux 19/03/2008, 22h32   #5 (permalink)
Ulrich G. Kliegis
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:57:05 GMT, "Mike Russell"
<RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote in
comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:


>Here's a tutorial from Janee - some of the textures about 3/4 the way down
>look a lot like crayon.
>
>http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/brush7/intro/brush7.htm
>
>Another thought would be to simulate a rougher paper by painting on a layer
>with a textured layer mask.


Mike,
thank you very much. This looks pretty perfect. I guess you are
talking about the flower with the blue leaves and, a little below, the
example to the right of the paragraph "Texture and Preserving
Texture", correct?

The influence of the paper texture is interesting, I hope to be able
to make use of it. At the moment, I suffer from material and tools
overflow . A structured catalogue of all available tools, patterns
etc. will probably always be a dream...

Thanks for this very ful hint, anyway. So much to learn again...

Cheers,
U.
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Vieux 20/03/2008, 00h03   #6 (permalink)
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Ulrich G. Kliegis <Ulli.usenet@kliegis.de> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:46:12 GMT, "Ragnar" <ragnar@NOSPAM.com> wrote
> in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:
>
> >I think you perhaps should try a paint-type program rather than PS. This
> >would be much better at mimicking the effect of natural tools like crayon,
> >paintbrush etc.
> >
> >One that supports graphics tablets and won't cost anything is Artweaver
> >http://www.artweaver.de/index.php?en_version

>
> Ragnar,
> thanks for this pointer. I looked at it and tried the crayon. Almost
> better than the real thing, at least, this crayon does not break!
>
> I'd still like to do it eiter integrated in the PS environment,
> though, or, if available, in a drawing (corel style) environment,
> where I could tweak and twitch the curves as splines. As far as I
> know, though, Corel does not offer structured drawing tools (yet), or
> am I a bit behind?
>
> Thanks for your input, though, I did not know this painting program
> before.
>
> Cheers,
> U.


I have never created a History Brush but I have created several regular
bushes to know the difference or how hard to create the History Brush. *But*
if you know how to generate the History Brush (you may need to GOOGLE for
more information) then you may be able to simulate the Crayon brush.

History Brush is very powerful and unique, and you wanna Google for a site
called something like TriMoon there you may find some *free* History
Brushes, samples, and instruction etc..

Yes, I have used History Brush once awhile and really enjoy it, but I
don't wanna get too much involved with painting but to spend as much
valuable time on retouching.
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