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Vieux 20/03/2008, 11h21   #1 (permalink)
R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
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I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
is the correct way? TIA

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Vieux 20/03/2008, 11h41   #2 (permalink)
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:21:44 +0100, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
<ng4rrjanbiah@rediffmail.com> wrote:

> I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
> I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
> is the correct way? TIA


I just call it 'important', because that what it is. The ! is just a
delimiter.
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#important-rules
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Vieux 20/03/2008, 12h21   #3 (permalink)
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On Mar 20, 3:41 pm, "Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:21:44 +0100, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
>
> <ng4rrjanb...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
> > I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
> > is the correct way? TIA

>
> I just call it 'important', because that what it is. The ! is just a
> delimiter.http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#important-rules


"important" is the meaning and I understand it. But, think about
the situation of teacher who has to refer the notation when he write
it on board; how should he refer?

<OT>
Here in South India, people refer a*b as "a into b". But, lately I
have seen that Dijkstra refers it as "a times b" (in a google video).
</OT>

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Vieux 20/03/2008, 12h36   #4 (permalink)
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R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah wrote:
> On Mar 20, 3:41 pm, "Rik Wasmus" <luiheidsgoe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:21:44 +0100, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
>>
>> <ng4rrjanb...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
>>> I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
>>> is the correct way? TIA

>> I just call it 'important', because that what it is. The ! is just a
>> delimiter.http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#important-rules

>
> "important" is the meaning and I understand it. But, think about
> the situation of teacher who has to refer the notation when he write
> it on board; how should he refer?
>
> <OT>
> Here in South India, people refer a*b as "a into b". But, lately I
> have seen that Dijkstra refers it as "a times b" (in a google video).
> </OT>


Really? In the US, "a into b" means "b divided by a" = b/a.
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Vieux 20/03/2008, 13h00   #5 (permalink)
R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
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On Mar 20, 4:21 pm, "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
<ng4rrjanb...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
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> <OT>
> Here in South India, people refer a*b as "a into b". But, lately I
> have seen that Dijkstra refers it as "a times b" (in a google video).
> </OT>


Yes. a/b is referred as "a by b" in Mathematical context and "a
bar b" referring door numbers (e.g., 20/5). And sometimes "a slash b"
in programming context.

When we start discussing about countries and cultures, we'd get
crazy info. FWIW, I got surprised when someone in a.e.u informed me
that asking marital status in Western countries is an offense.

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Vieux 20/03/2008, 13h01   #6 (permalink)
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On Mar 20, 4:32 pm, David Stone <no.em...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <9231b3ea-e956-40c1-9a01-4a81a0dda...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanb...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
> > > > I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
> > > > I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
> > > > is the correct way? TIA

<snip>
> By analogy with shell scripts "bang important"
>
> Seems to work...


In C, we refer "!" as "not". So, I refer "!important" as "not
important". But, I'm still interested in official way of referring.

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Vieux 20/03/2008, 13h06   #7 (permalink)
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R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah wrote:
> On Mar 20, 4:32 pm, David Stone wrote:
>> In article <blahblah.googlegroups.com>, "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" wrote:

> <snip>
>>>>> I'm just wondering, what is the correct way to refer to "!important".
>>>>> I currently refer it is "not important"--but I guess, it's wrong. What
>>>>> is the correct way? TIA

> <snip>
>> By analogy with shell scripts "bang important"
>>
>> Seems to work...

>
> In C, we refer "!" as "not". So, I refer "!important" as "not
> important". But, I'm still interested in official way of referring.


In C, the "!" is a negator. So !bValid is not bValid.

In CSS, the "!" is a deliminator, not a negator. So in speaking, it's
usually not pronounced; one just says "the CSS rules marked important
take precedence..."

In trying to explain to novices what to write, you might use the term
they understand as the "!" symbol. I call it an "exclamation mark" (or
maybe "exclamation point"), and never called it a "bang." So I would
say, "mark that declaration with exclamation mark-important."

What do normal folks who aren't busy programming in C call the "!"?

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Vieux 20/03/2008, 15h30   #8 (permalink)
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R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah <ng4rrjanbiah@rediffmail.com> wrote:

> In C, we refer "!" as "not". So, I refer "!important" as "not
> important". But, I'm still interested in official way of referring.


But this is not C it's CSS, which is a totally different topic.

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